Page 7 of 8 FirstFirst ... 4 5 6 7 8 LastLast
Results 181 to 210 of 233

Thread: Mitt Romney Would Pay 0.82 Percent in Taxes Under Paul Ryan's Plan

  1. #181
    Kuciwalker
    Deity Kuciwalker's Avatar
    Join Date
    17 Feb 2001
    Posts
    19,361
    Thanks
    5
    Thanked 16 Times in 12 Posts
    Local Date
    May 21, 2013
    Local Time
    19:46
    It's fascinating to see Asher slowly reconstruct the notion of short-run and long-run supply and demand curves. Eventually he may actually be able to do real economics!

  2. #182
    Asher
    President of the OT Asher's Avatar
    Join Date
    19 Nov 1999
    Location
    Calgary, Alberta
    Posts
    53,335
    Country
    This is Asher's Country Flag
    Thanks
    65
    Thanked 69 Times in 45 Posts
    Local Date
    May 21, 2013
    Local Time
    17:46
    You're not doing a very good job at distracting from the original issue.

    I like how I patiently explain rather obvious models and then Kuci turns around and acts like he gives me a cookie, oblivious to the fact that he and his brother have spent countless posts railing against me...

    You're not as smart as you think you are, Kuci. You're certainly nowhere near the level to be so smug.
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

  3. #183
    Imran Siddiqui
    Sports Forum Moderator Imran Siddiqui's Avatar
    Join Date
    31 Dec 1969
    Location
    on the corner of Peachtree and Peachtree
    Posts
    35,631
    Country
    This is Imran Siddiqui's Country Flag
    Thanks
    22
    Thanked 44 Times in 37 Posts
    Local Date
    May 21, 2013
    Local Time
    19:46
    Quote Originally Posted by Ogie Oglethorpe View Post
    No you have to restore America to a land that is recognized as a land of opportunity and social mobility. That unfortunately is not the case today. Wealth inequality was always a minor cutural driver as by and large people rejected that concept in favor of the opportunity to make it themselves and put their next generation in a position to have it better than they did. That is as long as they thought they had a legit chance to do so if they put in the work and had the persistence.
    Jeez, Ogie... you've fallen so hard for the "myth" that this is almost painful to read.
    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

  4. #184
    DinoDoc
    Deity DinoDoc's Avatar
    Join Date
    30 Sep 1999
    Location
    Underwater no one can hear sharks scream
    Posts
    14,557
    Country
    This is DinoDoc's Country Flag
    Thanks
    28
    Thanked 35 Times in 33 Posts
    Local Date
    May 21, 2013
    Local Time
    18:46
    Is the OP even correct wrt Romney's taxes under the Ryan plan? Factcheck.org : Outdated Attacks on Ryan
    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
    For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

  5. #185
    DaShi
    Emperor DaShi's Avatar
    Join Date
    29 Sep 2000
    Location
    The Taste of Japan
    Posts
    6,671
    Country
    This is DaShi's Country Flag
    Thanks
    189
    Thanked 69 Times in 56 Posts
    Local Date
    May 21, 2013
    Local Time
    23:46
    Quote Originally Posted by Guynemer View Post
    We have significantly less social mobility in the US than in many European nations. In large part because we don't make **** anymore.
    I'm not reading this whole thread, so I'm just going to walk away with this statement.
    “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
    "Capitalism ho!"

  6. #186
    BlackCat
    Emperor
    Join Date
    29 Jul 2004
    Posts
    9,095
    Country
    This is BlackCat's Country Flag
    Thanks
    4
    Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts
    Local Date
    May 22, 2013
    Local Time
    01:46
    Quote Originally Posted by DaShi View Post
    I'm not reading this whole thread, so I'm just going to walk away with this statement.
    Well ,then you miss all the good stuff such as that the poor people gets richer when they are assraped by the rich
    With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

    Steven Weinberg

  7. #187
    Kidicious
    Deity Kidicious's Avatar
    Join Date
    19 Mar 2003
    Posts
    18,637
    Country
    This is Kidicious's Country Flag
    Thanks
    25
    Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts
    Local Date
    May 21, 2013
    Local Time
    15:46
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuciwalker View Post
    It's fascinating to see Asher slowly reconstruct the notion of short-run and long-run supply and demand curves. Eventually he may actually be able to do real economics!
    Do you know what full capacity is?
    We must be concerned not merely about who murdered them, but about the system, the way of life, the philosophy which produced these murderers. - Martin Luther King Jr. Eulogy for the Martyred Children (1963)

  8. #188
    Aeson
    Deity Aeson's Avatar
    Join Date
    21 Nov 2001
    Location
    orangesoda
    Posts
    13,188
    Thanks
    11
    Thanked 53 Times in 46 Posts
    Local Date
    May 22, 2013
    Local Time
    07:46
    Quote Originally Posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
    And yet people in poor countries tend to be vastly more entrepreneurial than those in wealthy countries.
    Largely due to more opportunities that haven't been fully exploited ... and a lack of jobs ... not really a good thing. For instance, there is no supermarket anywhere near here, and most people wouldn't have enough money to actually go to it and use it if there was one (which of course is why there isn't one yet). There isn't much in the way of refrigeration in most homes. So food sellers pop up just about everywhere. Many people sell door to door, or from their homes. It's very inefficient when compared to supermarkets, but necessary. So just about everyone is an entrepreneur. It's not something we should try to replicate in developed economies.

    This type of decentralized and inefficient economy would still be necessary even if there were more of a safety net, at least until said safety net (or economic prosperity) was able to make the centralized supermarket and it's use viable.

    In developed economies having a safety net is an important part of convincing (most) people that entrepreneurial avenues are actually viable. This safety net takes many forms, some of which you might not think of as part of a "safety net", like limited liability and bankruptcy protections.
    "tout comprendre, c'est tout pardonner"

  9. #189
    DaShi
    Emperor DaShi's Avatar
    Join Date
    29 Sep 2000
    Location
    The Taste of Japan
    Posts
    6,671
    Country
    This is DaShi's Country Flag
    Thanks
    189
    Thanked 69 Times in 56 Posts
    Local Date
    May 21, 2013
    Local Time
    23:46
    Is HC making another case for Somalia?
    “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
    "Capitalism ho!"

  10. #190
    Aeson
    Deity Aeson's Avatar
    Join Date
    21 Nov 2001
    Location
    orangesoda
    Posts
    13,188
    Thanks
    11
    Thanked 53 Times in 46 Posts
    Local Date
    May 22, 2013
    Local Time
    07:46
    Pirates may be bad, but at least they aren't welfare moms, liberal arts majors, or union workers
    "tout comprendre, c'est tout pardonner"

  11. #191
    DaShi
    Emperor DaShi's Avatar
    Join Date
    29 Sep 2000
    Location
    The Taste of Japan
    Posts
    6,671
    Country
    This is DaShi's Country Flag
    Thanks
    189
    Thanked 69 Times in 56 Posts
    Local Date
    May 21, 2013
    Local Time
    23:46
    They are entrepreneurs, afterall.
    “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
    "Capitalism ho!"

  12. #192
    Kidicious
    Deity Kidicious's Avatar
    Join Date
    19 Mar 2003
    Posts
    18,637
    Country
    This is Kidicious's Country Flag
    Thanks
    25
    Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts
    Local Date
    May 21, 2013
    Local Time
    15:46
    But if they are more entrepreneurial why are they so poor?
    We must be concerned not merely about who murdered them, but about the system, the way of life, the philosophy which produced these murderers. - Martin Luther King Jr. Eulogy for the Martyred Children (1963)

  13. #193
    DaShi
    Emperor DaShi's Avatar
    Join Date
    29 Sep 2000
    Location
    The Taste of Japan
    Posts
    6,671
    Country
    This is DaShi's Country Flag
    Thanks
    189
    Thanked 69 Times in 56 Posts
    Local Date
    May 21, 2013
    Local Time
    23:46
    Good question. Maybe there's some government there taxing them that we aren't seeing.
    “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
    "Capitalism ho!"

  14. #194
    Kidicious
    Deity Kidicious's Avatar
    Join Date
    19 Mar 2003
    Posts
    18,637
    Country
    This is Kidicious's Country Flag
    Thanks
    25
    Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts
    Local Date
    May 21, 2013
    Local Time
    15:46
    Oh yeah, and probably regulations and such.
    We must be concerned not merely about who murdered them, but about the system, the way of life, the philosophy which produced these murderers. - Martin Luther King Jr. Eulogy for the Martyred Children (1963)

  15. #195
    gribbler
    Deity gribbler's Avatar
    Join Date
    18 Feb 2010
    Location
    Nazi Moon Colony
    Posts
    12,702
    Country
    This is gribbler's Country Flag
    Thanks
    56
    Thanked 75 Times in 57 Posts
    Local Date
    May 21, 2013
    Local Time
    18:46
    Quote Originally Posted by Kidicious View Post
    But if they are more entrepreneurial why are they so poor?
    Apparently the poor tend to be vastly more entrepreneurial.

  16. #196
    Kidicious
    Deity Kidicious's Avatar
    Join Date
    19 Mar 2003
    Posts
    18,637
    Country
    This is Kidicious's Country Flag
    Thanks
    25
    Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts
    Local Date
    May 21, 2013
    Local Time
    15:46
    Quote Originally Posted by gribbler View Post
    Which is why we should increase taxes on the wealthy so that they will be more like the poor.
    We must be concerned not merely about who murdered them, but about the system, the way of life, the philosophy which produced these murderers. - Martin Luther King Jr. Eulogy for the Martyred Children (1963)

  17. #197
    Hauldren Collider
    Deity Hauldren Collider's Avatar
    Join Date
    20 Feb 2010
    Location
    Virginia
    Posts
    13,530
    Country
    This is Hauldren Collider's Country Flag
    Thanks
    75
    Thanked 43 Times in 37 Posts
    Local Date
    May 21, 2013
    Local Time
    19:46
    Quote Originally Posted by gribbler View Post
    No, people in poor countries tend to be vastly more entrepreneurial. There is a huge difference between those two things.
    If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
    :(){ :|:& };:

  18. #198
    Flubber
    Deity Flubber's Avatar
    Join Date
    03 Aug 2000
    Location
    With a view of the Rockies
    Posts
    13,527
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
    Local Date
    May 21, 2013
    Local Time
    16:46
    Quote Originally Posted by Tupac Shakur View Post
    If Canadians are so happy, why do all the ones who are worth a **** leave the country?
    If a person leaves Canada and goes to the United States, the average IQ of both places goes up?

    Just funning!! I was actually in the US yesterday. When I crossed the border the speed limit was 2 miles an hour higher and I immediately felt freer. Lol

    Biggest thing I noted was how much cheaper most retail items are in the US and I did enjoy the lack of sales tax in Montana.
    You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

  19. #199
    Kidicious
    Deity Kidicious's Avatar
    Join Date
    19 Mar 2003
    Posts
    18,637
    Country
    This is Kidicious's Country Flag
    Thanks
    25
    Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts
    Local Date
    May 21, 2013
    Local Time
    15:46
    Quote Originally Posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
    No, people in poor countries tend to be vastly more entrepreneurial. There is a huge difference between those two things.
    We must be concerned not merely about who murdered them, but about the system, the way of life, the philosophy which produced these murderers. - Martin Luther King Jr. Eulogy for the Martyred Children (1963)

  20. #200
    Jaguar
    Emperor Jaguar's Avatar
    Join Date
    01 Apr 2000
    Location
    McLean, VA
    Posts
    5,984
    Country
    This is Jaguar's Country Flag
    Thanks
    3
    Thanked 19 Times in 13 Posts
    Local Date
    May 21, 2013
    Local Time
    19:46
    Why are you even confused by that? It's obviously true.
    "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

    Eschewing silly games since December 4, 2005

  21. #201
    kentonio
    Emperor kentonio's Avatar
    Join Date
    21 Mar 2002
    Posts
    4,585
    Thanks
    47
    Thanked 53 Times in 46 Posts
    Local Date
    May 22, 2013
    Local Time
    00:46
    No it's not. Being poor in a poor country might well make people more entrepreneurial, but there's no logical leap to everyone in poor countries being so. As previously pointed out by Aeson, that entrepreneurialism is also countered by a lot of negative stuff too.

  22. #202
    Kidicious
    Deity Kidicious's Avatar
    Join Date
    19 Mar 2003
    Posts
    18,637
    Country
    This is Kidicious's Country Flag
    Thanks
    25
    Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts
    Local Date
    May 21, 2013
    Local Time
    15:46
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Why are you even confused by that? It's obviously true.
    I'm not confused. I'm stunned, because people in poor countries are poor, or did he mean the rich people, but then what is his point?
    We must be concerned not merely about who murdered them, but about the system, the way of life, the philosophy which produced these murderers. - Martin Luther King Jr. Eulogy for the Martyred Children (1963)

  23. #203
    Kidicious
    Deity Kidicious's Avatar
    Join Date
    19 Mar 2003
    Posts
    18,637
    Country
    This is Kidicious's Country Flag
    Thanks
    25
    Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts
    Local Date
    May 21, 2013
    Local Time
    15:46
    Quote Originally Posted by kentonio View Post
    No it's not. Being poor in a poor country might well make people more entrepreneurial, but there's no logical leap to everyone in poor countries being so. As previously pointed out by Aeson, that entrepreneurialism is also countered by a lot of negative stuff too.
    We shouldn't even call it entrepreneurialism. It really is absurd. Should we believe someone in a poor country says, "I'm an entrepreneur because I collect stuff at the dump."
    We must be concerned not merely about who murdered them, but about the system, the way of life, the philosophy which produced these murderers. - Martin Luther King Jr. Eulogy for the Martyred Children (1963)

  24. #204
    Kidicious
    Deity Kidicious's Avatar
    Join Date
    19 Mar 2003
    Posts
    18,637
    Country
    This is Kidicious's Country Flag
    Thanks
    25
    Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts
    Local Date
    May 21, 2013
    Local Time
    15:46
    The point is, most entreprenuers aren't that important to the economy. Society doesn't really need you to open up a new McDonalds on the corner. We can get by without you (as an individual I mean). Someone else will do it if you don't. People are going to start up businesses if they have to or if there is enough demand etc... It's the same thing in poorer countries. People in poorer countries don't have better alternatives when they become entreprenuers and either do people in richer countries.
    Last edited by Kidicious; August 15, 2012 at 06:21.
    We must be concerned not merely about who murdered them, but about the system, the way of life, the philosophy which produced these murderers. - Martin Luther King Jr. Eulogy for the Martyred Children (1963)

  25. #205
    Aeson
    Deity Aeson's Avatar
    Join Date
    21 Nov 2001
    Location
    orangesoda
    Posts
    13,188
    Thanks
    11
    Thanked 53 Times in 46 Posts
    Local Date
    May 22, 2013
    Local Time
    07:46
    Quote Originally Posted by kentonio View Post
    No it's not. Being poor in a poor country might well make people more entrepreneurial, but there's no logical leap to everyone in poor countries being so.
    In developing economies there are more (often very easy to exploit) opportunities which haven't been fully exploited yet. Starting up a business in a developing economy means you are likely to be able to get the best location (if applicable), and not have to compete with established players. You also have plenty of labor to choose from, keeping labor costs low and ensuring you get the best (local) workers. Sometimes, there isn't any competition at all.

    Also there are fewer jobs. So if you want to make an income, you're more likely to have to create the job yourself than to fill one that someone else has already created. Generally the reason why poorer people will start their own business. (Which often is just carrying a basket around the neighborhood.)

    These influences apply (but not always to the same extent) regardless of how much money you have in such an economy.
    "tout comprendre, c'est tout pardonner"

  26. #206
    Ben Kenobi
    Emperor Ben Kenobi's Avatar
    Join Date
    27 Oct 2002
    Location
    San Antonio
    Posts
    29,963
    Country
    This is Ben Kenobi's Country Flag
    Thanks
    101
    Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts
    Local Date
    May 21, 2013
    Local Time
    18:46
    We shouldn't even call it entrepreneurialism. It really is absurd. Should we believe someone in a poor country says, "I'm an entrepreneur because I collect stuff at the dump."
    "Hi, I'm the publisher for ZYNGA, and I'm an entrepreneur."
    Scouse Git (2) LaFayette Adam Smith and Solomwi you will be missed
    "Learning carries within itself certain dangers because out of necessity one has to learn from one's enemies." - Trotsky.
    "I don't consider any of them authoritative" - Kidicious on Scripture.

  27. #207
    PaulRyanBot
    PaulRyanBot's Avatar
    Join Date
    16 Aug 2012
    Posts
    0
    Country
    This is PaulRyanBot's Country Flag
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
    Local Date
    May 21, 2013
    Local Time
    19:46

  28. #208
    Hauldren Collider
    Deity Hauldren Collider's Avatar
    Join Date
    20 Feb 2010
    Location
    Virginia
    Posts
    13,530
    Country
    This is Hauldren Collider's Country Flag
    Thanks
    75
    Thanked 43 Times in 37 Posts
    Local Date
    May 21, 2013
    Local Time
    19:46
    Keep ripping off lame twitter accounts, and you'll be sure to hit the mark at some point!

    Spoiler alert: you can get all these jokes before this DL has a chance to tell them at @PaulRyanGosling, a distinctly unfunny novelty twitter account.
    If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
    :(){ :|:& };:

  29. #209
    Aeson
    Deity Aeson's Avatar
    Join Date
    21 Nov 2001
    Location
    orangesoda
    Posts
    13,188
    Thanks
    11
    Thanked 53 Times in 46 Posts
    Local Date
    May 22, 2013
    Local Time
    07:46
    Have you ever been taking a stroll through a park and saw someone arguing with a tree with a liberal poster tacked to it? Yah, HC is that guy ...
    "tout comprendre, c'est tout pardonner"

  30. #210
    Al B. Sure!
    Deity Al B. Sure!'s Avatar
    Join Date
    04 Mar 1999
    Location
    Quantico
    Posts
    22,662
    Country
    This is Al B. Sure!'s Country Flag
    Thanks
    5
    Thanked 32 Times in 20 Posts
    Local Date
    May 21, 2013
    Local Time
    19:46
    Quote Originally Posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
    Keep ripping off lame twitter accounts, and you'll be sure to hit the mark at some point!

    Spoiler alert: you can get all these jokes before this DL has a chance to tell them at @PaulRyanGosling, a distinctly unfunny novelty twitter account.
    Those are specifically negative. That one PaulRyanBot posted and the others don't seem particularly negative.

    It's a whole meme and seems like it's going beyond that twitter account.

    This one seems pro-Paul Ryan:
    http://heygirlitspaulryan.tumblr.com/
    "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
    "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

Page 7 of 8 FirstFirst ... 4 5 6 7 8 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Paul Ryan Poll
    By Al B. Sure! in forum Off Topic
    Replies: 246
    Last Post: August 24, 2012, 02:37
  2. Mitt Romney Murdered JonBenét Ramsey
    By Tupac Shakur in forum Off Topic
    Replies: 75
    Last Post: August 14, 2012, 14:58
  3. Ideology of the .01 percent of the .01 percent
    By loinburger in forum Off Topic
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: June 26, 2012, 15:58
  4. MSNBC: Mitt Romney has a Police Officer Fetish
    By Al B. Sure! in forum Off Topic
    Replies: 41
    Last Post: June 12, 2012, 15:55
  5. Will Mitt Romney be America's first Latino president?
    By Al B. Sure! in forum Off Topic
    Replies: 54
    Last Post: May 21, 2012, 18:47

Visitors found this page by searching for:

powered by vBulletin business transformation

powered by vBulletin business plan sample

powered by vBulletin business plan examples

powered by myBB state lottery

powered by vBulletin business plan free

powered by vBulletin retail business plans

powered by vBulletin sample business plans for

powered by vBulletin salon business plans

powered by vBulletin marketing business plans

powered by myBB seattle free tax help

powered by vBulletin professional tax preparation

powered by vBulletin tax preparation software download

powered by myBB 100 free background check and info

powered by myBB desserts

powered by vBulletin free tax preparation software 20

powered by myBB military pay chart 08

powered by vBulletin business plan software free

powered by vBulletin sample business plan retail

powered by myBB capital gains

powered by vBulletin military pay raise for 2010

powered by vBulletin free online tax preparation

powered by vBulletin tax preparation software corporate

powered by vBulletin state lottery

powered by myBB job loss ministry

powered by myBB state tax

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions