Dark Knight Rises

[Al B. Sure!]

The Swiss have no problems with all their guns.

Once again Americans don't know how to use our freedoms.

[Wiglaf]

That is because he's a PATSY.

Let's get this straight.

The Amerikkkan government black ops KILLMAN walks in with gas mask, body armor, ballistic helmet, uses police-grade gas, kills and walks out DISCREET. He wears a gas mask he can not be IDENTIFIED

the black ops team at the site then presents the drugged up patsy to the police. He says hes the joker.

The facts. White boy NUEROSCIENCE PHD program working as part of a MIND CONTROL program MKULTRA at the University of Colorado funded by the government FBI says no ties to any terrorist groups except of course the AMERIKKKAN GOVERNMENT even had connections to the TEA PARTY the right-wing NEO-FASCIST reactionary movement funded by BIG MONEY to TRICK revolutionary forces into supporting their SAME OLD SCHEMES

In ONE WEEK, Obama will sign ILLUMINATI united nations GUN LAW TREATY increasing GUN CONTROL . This shooting was PERFECTLY orchestrated by the government to SCARE people . FALSE FLAG to deny Black Afrikans the ability to PROTECT ourselves the Black family and our communities from POLICE AND GOVERNMENT FORCES

This was no insane lone wolf. This was a carefully planned, HEAVILY FUNDED, technically advanced attack with a CLEAR INTENT

READ:



MORE FACTS
In theater 9
date 7/20
9+11 = 20
9 - 1 -1 = 7

Aurora means dawn. DAWN OF NEW WORLD ORDER

OPEN YOUR EYES

OH YOU'VE REALLY PISSED ME OFF :MAD: :MAD: :MAD: :MADBAN: :MAD: :ANGRY: :ANGRY:

You are BRIAN ROSS FROM ABC AREN'T YOU

Looking for your next SCOOP YOU COWARD!

WHAT A DISGRACE TO THE DEAD, WHAT A DISGRACE TO MATHEMATICS, WHAT A DISGRACE TO MEL GIBSON AND ALL OF AMERICA YOU ARE, AT LEAST HE MADE MONEY OFF HIS CONSPIRACY THEORIES AND YOU ARE HERE GIVING THEM AWAY

9/11 = 0.818181818 REPEATING
75 BILLION DOLLARS WAS SPENT AFTER 911 ON COUNTER TERRORISM
SHOOTER WAS AGE 24
24TH LETTER OF THE ALPHABET = X
7+7+.81 + 24 = X
SOLVE FOR X AND YOU GET 38.81
75.24.38.81 IS AN IP ADDRESS IN COLORADO

COMCAST DID IT

[Wiglaf]

Not seeing how. It's a dark crowded theater filled with tear (?) gas with everyone panicked and running around...

really not seeing how more guns would have helped.

It's pretty simple, YOU SHOOT HIM WITH A .45 WHEN HE COMES CLOSE

You are right that if EVERYONE IN THE THEATER had a .45, maybe there would be some friendly fire, but if only a handful of people are armed, then there is little risk of much if any friendly fire.

[regexcellent]

From your own link-

"Between 2003/04 and 2008/09 the number of annual homicides decreased by 27% from 204 to 148"

27% reduction (and steadily falling) not much of an improvement?

Compared to equivalent reductions in the United States. I didn't say there haven't been major gains in crime, but that we've seen the same thing here. Since 1990 crime is way down everywhere in America.

[regexcellent]

It's not your pop-guns that ward off invasions. It's your nukes and air superiority.

Seriously am I the only one here who has seen Red Dawn? Though there is ATF Form 4473...

[Dr Strangelove]

It's pretty simple, YOU SHOOT HIM WITH A .45 WHEN HE COMES CLOSE

You are right that if EVERYONE IN THE THEATER had a .45, maybe there would be some friendly fire, but if only a handful of people are armed, then there is little risk of much if any friendly fire.

He was wearing body armor.

[Dr Strangelove]

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i...+homicide+rate

0.0 per 100,000 people per year, definitely less than London.

http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/...estats2010.htm

1.6 per 100,000 people per year, compared to London's 1.9 in 2010. That's the surrounding county. Definitely lower.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_London#Homicide

By the way, when was the handgun ban created? London's homicide rate hasn't improved that much in the last 20 years, compared with the improvements made in the United States at the same time.

Comparing Fairfax with London is ridiculous. Fairfax is one of the most wealthy communities in the United States. It would be more appropriate to compare crime in Fairfax with crime in Kensington, Richmond or Kingston boroughs. OTOH since Fairfax is part of the Statisitcal Metropolitan Area of Washington, DC you could compare crime in London with crime in Washington, DC.

[Asher]

He also had no permits apparently so the legal issue is probably moot.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle4432741/

Mr. Holmes had purchased the weapons legally at three area gun stores in the last 60 days and had bought 6,000 rounds of ammunition, Chief Oates said.

It seriously sets off no flags for someone to buy, within 60 days, an assault rifle, shotgun, TWO hand guns, and 6,000 rounds of ammunition.

[Wiglaf]

He was wearing body armor.

Most experienced shooters could hit someone in the head given close range. And taking a .45 to the chest is going to knock you down, body armor or not.

[Wezil]

It seriously sets off no flags for someone to buy, within 60 days, an assault rifle, shotgun, TWO hand guns, and 6,000 rounds of ammunition.

By the time he takes some target practice, blows away the burglars and fights off the foreign invasion he might run low.

[Ecthy]

MORE FACTS
In theater 9
date 7/20
9+11 = 20
9 - 1 -1 = 7

Aurora means dawn. DAWN OF NEW WORLD ORDER

OPEN YOUR EYES

I'm wondering; what's the point of a government conspiracy sending out such signals if nobody except a bunch of freaks can see them?

[Wiglaf]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle4432741/

Mr. Holmes had purchased the weapons legally at three area gun stores in the last 60 days and had bought 6,000 rounds of ammunition, Chief Oates said.

It seriously sets off no flags for someone to buy, within 60 days, an assault rifle, shotgun, TWO hand guns, and 6,000 rounds of ammunition.

ATF probably knew about it, then.

[Tuberski]

I read one story where he was supposedly carrying the 6,000 rounds of ammunition.

ACK!

[Felch]

It seriously sets off no flags for someone to buy, within 60 days, an assault rifle, shotgun, TWO hand guns, and 6,000 rounds of ammunition.

It's perfectly legal to buy as much ammunition as you can afford, and it's cheaper per round to buy in bulk.

[Dr Strangelove]

Most experienced shooters could hit someone in the head given close range. And taking a .45 to the chest is going to knock you down, body armor or not.

It was dark, he was moving, he had released tear gas and was the only person wearing a gas mask.

[Tuberski]

Most "experienced" shooters could make a head shot from short range, but most of them haven't been under fire while doing it.

ACK!

[regexcellent]

He was not carrying 6,000 rounds. There is no ****ing way. He'd have to have a backpack full of it and it would weigh like, half a ton. I have a few 525 round boxes of Remington .22LR ammo and those things weigh a few pounds. The ammo for his gun is dramatically heavier.

I can hit someone in the head with a paintball gun at close range while being shot at. Bear in mind that paintball guns are about as accurate as muskets. It's not that hard. There's a special shooting technique for handguns and very close range combat where you don't use the sights. It's fast and reasonably easy to do under stress.

[regexcellent]

Comparing Fairfax with London is ridiculous. Fairfax is one of the most wealthy communities in the United States. It would be more appropriate to compare crime in Fairfax with crime in Kensington, Richmond or Kingston boroughs. OTOH since Fairfax is part of the Statisitcal Metropolitan Area of Washington, DC you could compare crime in London with crime in Washington, DC.

Virginia and DC have very different gun laws, so no the comparison is not useful in this instance. Virginia has practically no gun laws whereas Maryland and Washington have ridiculously tight ones.

In any case, the point was to check HC's claim that his city, which is Fairfax, has less crime than London. Which it does.

[Al B. Sure!]

Okay what should be happening is we concede freer gun rights didn't and wouldn't have helped the situation but liberals should not be limiting rights and changing our lifestyle because of a single incident by a crazy person. THAT is what gun rightists should be arguing. We don't let an outlier incident cause dramatic changes in our lives and reductions to our rights.

[regexcellent]

Right. This is a rounding error in the murder rate. The reason people flip out over it is because it happened in a white suburban neighborhood, as opposed to southside Chicago, so there is actually some token amount of crime in this country they might not be able to avoid simply by staying out of the ghetto.

[Asher]

Okay what should be happening is we concede freer gun rights didn't and wouldn't have helped the situation but liberals should not be limiting rights and changing our lifestyle because of a single incident by a crazy person. THAT is what gun rightists should be arguing. We don't let an outlier incident cause dramatic changes in our lives and reductions to our rights.

You're right. This is the first time a mentally unstable American with easy access to all kinds of ridiculous weaponry chose to unleash it all on his fellow citizens.

[Asher]

Right. This is a rounding error in the murder rate. The reason people flip out over it is because it happened in a white suburban neighborhood, as opposed to southside Chicago, so there is actually some token amount of crime in this country they might not be able to avoid simply by staying out of the ghetto.

If you live in a country where people DON'T freak out over 12 people being killed (another 11 in critical condition) and dozens more seriously injured, then that would be the time to worry.

People would still freak out of this happened in southside Chicago. It's ****ed up.

But hey, all of these deaths are worth it, right? As long as Billy-Joe can use AR-15s to go hunting, it's all worth it.

[Al B. Sure!]

If you live in a country where people DON'T freak out over 12 people being killed (another 11 in critical condition) and dozens more seriously injured, then that would be the time to worry.

People would still freak out of this happened in southside Chicago. It's ****ed up.

But hey, all of these deaths are worth it, right? As long as Billy-Joe can use AR-15s to go hunting, it's all worth it.

Umm... 12 murders is like the 10 day average in Philly.

And no one cares.

[Al B. Sure!]

You're right. This is the first time a mentally unstable American with easy access to all kinds of ridiculous weaponry chose to unleash it all on his fellow citizens.

It seems to happen about once a year. Still considering how many people have guns, that's an outlier.

[regexcellent]

Over the past few months Chicago has had that number of murders on a regular weekend. It's a local news story, below the fold at best.

Of course, Chicago practically bans guns.

But hey, all of these deaths are worth it, right? As long as Billy-Joe can use AR-15s to go hunting, it's all worth it.

AR-15s are almost never used in crime and we banned them for 10 years and nothing came of it.

I still dispute the notion that gun control will help, so yes, it's worth not having it.

[The Mad Monk]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle4432741/

Mr. Holmes had purchased the weapons legally at three area gun stores in the last 60 days and had bought 6,000 rounds of ammunition, Chief Oates said.

It seriously sets off no flags for someone to buy, within 60 days, an assault rifle, shotgun, TWO hand guns, and 6,000 rounds of ammunition.

I bought two pistols and a combat shotgun after my little incident, and about 600 rounds of ammo to boot.

Nobody blinked.

...and yes, that was a single shopping trip.

[regexcellent]

I bought 1000 rounds of ammo last weekend. Nobody blinked. It cost me $40.

[Hauldren Collider]

He was wearing body armor.

Then shoot him twice.

[Hauldren Collider]

Comparing Fairfax with London is ridiculous. Fairfax is one of the most wealthy communities in the United States. It would be more appropriate to compare crime in Fairfax with crime in Kensington, Richmond or Kingston boroughs. OTOH since Fairfax is part of the Statisitcal Metropolitan Area of Washington, DC you could compare crime in London with crime in Washington, DC.

No, you shouldn't, because Laz told me to enjoy my third-world murder rate. I don't live in DC. My town's murder rate is very low, thank you very much

Also, just because Fairfax has a high median wealth doesn't mean there aren't poor areas. Fairfax County is enormous. You can find all levels of urbanization and all levels of economic status.

[Asher]

Umm... 12 murders is like the 10 day average in Philly.

And no one cares.

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