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    Homosexuality Will Cease to Exist Someday

    Someday they'll find the cause behind homosexuality. Lets assume for a moment that they act to modify this cause in a manner that ends homosexuality. No matter how you look at it, there is probably a genetic cause for it. Instead of wasting time and money railing against homosexuality, wouldn't it be better to pour all that money into research? Then you don't even need laws since it won't even exist anymore. Surely churches could collectively amass an enormous amount of cash to fund it. They'd probably even discover things along the way. For that matter, do you think there is a pharmaceutical out there somewhere looking for it? I bet it would bring in a lot of money.

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    Homosexuality doesn't cause any harm so why go through the trouble of finding a "cure"? Why not research how to eradicate something that's actually a problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaShi View Post
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    You're giving him too much credit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gribbler View Post
    Homosexuality doesn't cause any harm so why go through the trouble of finding a "cure"? Why not research how to eradicate something that's actually a problem?
    It actually helps the group in the long run as it means there are some people in the group who aren't reproducing and so who help other members of their family/group. Every large society needs to those type of people no matter if it is childless straight couples or if they're gay couples. They actually end up paying more into the system than they get out of the system since they don't have kids to send to public schools or other wise use tax dollars. Oh, and because they don't have children they end up with more disposable income to spend on other things which certainly helps the local economy.
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    I don't think less children will help our economy in any way. More people is really not a problem in our situation and that is one reason why immigration should be less restricted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dinner View Post
    You're giving him too much credit.
    I gave him extra points for the amount of attention that it will still manage to generate.
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    Homos are adopting kids, and in the case of lesbians, they are having them. So your argument is pretty stupid. Also, this is a homo thread, not an immigration thread.

    Which brings up a disturbing question: Will men be able to have babies someday like Arnold Schwarzenegger?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gribbler View Post
    I don't think less children will help our economy in any way. More people is really not a problem in our situation and that is one reason why immigration should be less restricted.
    Over all the amount of child can increase but having a few people who spend their money on other things can help. The total pop is still going up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gribbler View Post
    Homosexuality doesn't cause any harm so why go through the trouble of finding a "cure"? Why not research how to eradicate something that's actually a problem?
    In expectation I believe that turning a gay person straight (retroactively, at least) would make them happier.

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    The total pop is still going up.
    Only because death rates dropped. Birth rates are actually pretty low worldwide at 2.4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuciwalker View Post
    In expectation I believe that turning a gay person straight (retroactively, at least) would make them happier.
    Because they wouldn't have to listen to ignorant people tell them they'd be happier as a straight person?
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    It wouldn't cause homosexuality to cease to exist either. It would probably become a fad to have a designer gay baby.
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    If an asteroid were projected to wipe out most of Earth, and you are president and have to pick who gets a ticket to the national bomb shelter, you'd have to exclude and condemn homosexuals, the elderly the sick and the obese.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiglaf View Post
    If an asteroid were projected to wipe out most of Earth, and you are president and have to pick who gets a ticket to the national bomb shelter, you'd have to exclude and condemn homosexuals, the elderly the sick and the obese.
    More likely, given free reign to pick... all the guys would just happen to be homosexuals, and all the women are hot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiglaf View Post
    If an asteroid were projected to wipe out most of Earth, and you are president and have to pick who gets a ticket to the national bomb shelter, you'd have to exclude and condemn homosexuals, the elderly the sick and the obese.
    I'd exclude lawyers too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeson View Post
    Because they wouldn't have to listen to ignorant people tell them they'd be happier as a straight person?
    Because lots of straight people are mean to gay people, and lots of gay people observably have a more difficult adolescence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiglaf View Post
    If an asteroid were projected to wipe out most of Earth, and you are president and have to pick who gets a ticket to the national bomb shelter, you'd have to exclude and condemn homosexuals, the elderly the sick and the obese.
    Not to mention the designers of Civ5. They'd deserve their punishment too!
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    That would be redundant seeing as Ed Beach the elderly uncreative homosexual child molester ticks almost all those boxes except obesity.

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    What if on the way to finding cure, they find a gay pill first - ie you take it and you become gay??? Will they take over the world instead, and only designer babies? Seems to have potential to resolve overpopulation problems, global warming and next great extinction of wildlife. Once you get the human population numbers down to 100000 you can exploit the world as much as you want without repercussions, and if you can get to that number without WWIII, all the better. Clearly it's the only solution without causing much pain and suffering
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    Quote Originally Posted by gribbler View Post
    Homosexuality doesn't cause any harm so why go through the trouble of finding a "cure"? Why not research how to eradicate something that's actually a problem?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuciwalker View Post
    Because lots of straight people are mean to gay people, and lots of gay people observably have a more difficult adolescence.
    So the solution for straight people being homophobic would be to cure the gay people of their gayness?

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    We don't know of any especially effective way to make straight people stop being homophobic. In the OP's hypothetical we do know a way to make gay people stop being gay (or more precisely, to prevent them from being being gay in the first place). So, yes, in that case it would be the solution.

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    It's also not clear that homophobia is the only reason that gay people would be less happy. Anecdotal evidence suggests that the process of discovering that you're gay is inherently somewhat confusing and stressful for many people. Finally, it's obviously going to be slightly easier for straight people to find partners because of network effects.

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    I mean, seriously guys think about this. We have roughly three possibilities:

    In expectation a child will live a happier life if he is born gay. (This seems unlikely.)
    In expectation a child will live precisely as happy a life if he is born gay as if he is born straight. (This seems very unlikely. It would be very strange if the two were exactly equal.)
    In expectation a child will live a happier life if he is born straight. (This seems to match our observations to date.)

    Now, it's theoretically possible that there is some social good to diversity of sexual orientation, but I don't see any evidence of one and no one else has put forward this theory. Thus we should conclude that if we were given a button that would turn all children born henceforth straight, we ought to press the button.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuciwalker View Post
    I mean, seriously guys think about this. We have roughly three possibilities:

    In expectation a child will live a happier life if he is born gay. (This seems unlikely.)
    In expectation a child will live precisely as happy a life if he is born gay as if he is born straight. (This seems very unlikely. It would be very strange if the two were exactly equal.)
    In expectation a child will live a happier life if he is born straight. (This seems to match our observations to date.)

    Now, it's theoretically possible that there is some social good to diversity of sexual orientation, but I don't see any evidence of one and no one else has put forward this theory. Thus we should conclude that if we were given a button that would turn all children born henceforth straight, we ought to press the button.
    Now do the same thing but with the child being born Black or white.
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