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The announcement will be at 9:00 A.M. CEST (Central European Standard Time) which is about 2:00 A.M. CST (Chicago). But Fermilab has already announced the "strongest indication to date" of the existence of it.
http://news.yahoo.com/higgs-boson-ph...news-tech.html
Hopefully CERN will say the same thing.
intrade has them at 75%
Wiglaf (July 4, 2012)
Intrade can't even predict historic SCOTUS rulings.
of what?Originally Posted by Kuciwalker
JM
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Wiglaf! Get out of my head!!!
“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
"Capitalism ho!"
Intrade says discovery is more likely. Anyone else doing a little cocaine if they nail this thing? Just a little bit.
Tonight is a pickerel and bison bbq. My friend @ Stamford has promised to contact me the moment the world ends.
There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.
I THINK THEY DISCOVERED IT!
Thing is, as an athiest I cannot believe in a God-particle.
There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.
Looks like they found it, according to CERN site!:
“We observe in our data clear signs of a new particle, at the level of 5 sigma, in the mass region around 126 GeV. The outstanding performance of the LHC and ATLAS and the huge efforts of many people have brought us to this exciting stage,” said ATLAS experiment spokesperson Fabiola Gianotti, “but a little more time is needed to prepare these results for publication.”
I'M CONFUSED
THEY SAY IT "LOOKS LIKE" THEY DISCOVERED IT?
CAN I DO THIS LINE OR NOT?
DID THESE PEOPLE ALSO WRITE THE SOPRANOS FINALE
Brilliance.
Made my day.
Science.
I hope they prove it doesn't exist, so that I can float away like a bubble.
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From what I gather, they've "proved" that a Higgs exists. There was a curious lack of results in a particular decay channel (pairs of tau/anti-tau), and this apparently hints at new physics beyond the Standard Model.
Yes, exactly it's definitely a boson, definitely a Higgs, but might not be a Standard Model Higgs. Which would be more exciting in some ways.
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We've got both kinds
Not at all sure it is a Higgs, although they were looking for a SM Higgs (the overall trial factor would be higher without that assumption).
I would just leave it as "Probably they saw the SM Higgs".
It might not be possible to verify everything without the Linear Collider.
JM
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If it's important enough, can this particle be promoted to a more dignified rank than bosun? Like supercargo or maybe first mate. I refuse to believe our present model of physics is supervised by such a low-ranking officer.
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Why the skepticism? The scientist bloggers I've been reading seem to think this is a pretty solid discovery.
If they look where they expect the SM Higgs to be, they reject the Null Hypothesis by ~5 sigma. (this is the big announcement)
If they look everywhere, they reject the Null Hypothesis by ~1 sigma. (this is not really mentioned)
If they expect the SM Higgs, then they reject the SM Hypothesis by ~1 sigma. (this is the 'might not be the SM Higgs', which is mentioned)
In physics 1-2 sigma is agreement (not rejecting it), and the first statement is a bit dodgy (due to the assumptions).
JM
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Cool, how long until they are on the market?
“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
"Capitalism ho!"
Gotcha.
What a ridiculous waste of money.
I really upset my Mom's cousin's husband when I was talking about how much money was spent on fundamental physics research with no near term financial gain.
JM
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Well sure, unless you value science in and of itself.
Do you consider the NBA, the NFL, the new Spider Man, and 50 shades of grey to be ridiculous wastes of money?
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People carry out "ridiculous wastes of money" in their private expenditures all the time if we assume a failure to maximize the average utility of the human race is a "ridiculous waste of money".
Not unless it can fit in a pivot table or probability model.
(for actuary types, not me)
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