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Ben Kenobi · June 25, 2012, 19:36

Darwin wrote a whole ****ing book on it.

He doesn't even rate top billing for 'Victorian biological discoveries.' I could be pursuaded to list him in the top 5.

kentonio · June 25, 2012, 19:36

Originally Posted by Ben Kenobi

The Greeks talked about clay forming Gods. I don't see how that's not myth. Maybe your school permits it but mine doesn't.

What the **** are you babbling about?

Ben Kenobi · June 25, 2012, 19:40

Well, there's also this thing about Darwin's theory being instrumental for subsequent scientific and social developments.

Not really. Most of that was Malthus and Galton. Darwin did have the 'Descent of Man', but Galton was the one who really got all the sociobiological ideas at the turn of the century fired up. The whole desire to improve the race of man through good breeding and elimination of the inferior mongoloid races - Galton.

Malthus still holds sway today. I can go to any class and within 5 minutes pick out someone stating something Malthus said. And more likely than not not knowing who said it. That's how influential Malthus is to the world today.

Ben Kenobi · June 25, 2012, 19:41

What the **** are you babbling about?

Look up Pandora and get yourself an education. Here's a nickel.

DaShi · June 25, 2012, 19:44

Originally Posted by Ben Kenobi

Not really. Most of that was Malthus and Galton. Darwin did have the 'Descent of Man', but Galton was the one who really got all the sociobiological ideas at the turn of the century fired up. The whole desire to improve the race of man through good breeding and elimination of the inferior mongoloid races - Galton.

Malthus still holds sway today. I can go to any class and within 5 minutes pick out someone stating something Malthus said. And more likely than not not knowing who said it. That's how influential Malthus is to the world today.

Anyone else creeped out that Ben's know exactly how long it would take him to get to nearby schools?

kentonio · June 25, 2012, 19:44

Originally Posted by Ben Kenobi

Look up Pandora and get yourself an education. Here's a nickel.

I'm referring to your tedious attempt to throw up idiotic strawmen to mask your own foolishness. Then again given that you have presumably spent time inside your own head, I can fully understand why the idea that we have actually evolved from non-sentient creatures could seem unbelievable.

Ben Kenobi · June 25, 2012, 19:53

Anyone else creeped out that Ben's know exactly how long it would take him to get to nearby schools?

Uh, I was referring to how long it would take someone in the class to say something that Malthus said, if I asked the right questions.

But then reading comprehension isn't your strong suit I take it?

Ben Kenobi · June 25, 2012, 19:54

I'm referring to your tedious attempt to throw up idiotic strawmen to mask your own foolishness. Then again given that you have presumably spent time inside your own head, I can fully understand why the idea that we have actually evolved from non-sentient creatures could seem unbelievable.

Clearly you're in need of another nickel and I'm fresh out.

DaShi · June 25, 2012, 19:55

So you're saying that you don't know how far away classrooms are from where you live?

Ben Kenobi · June 25, 2012, 19:59

So you're saying that you don't know how far away classrooms are from where you live?

I know how far my classroom would be. Aside from that? Not a clue.

kentonio · June 25, 2012, 20:02

Plausible deniability, very wise.

DaShi · June 25, 2012, 20:08

Originally Posted by Ben Kenobi

I know how far my classroom would be. Aside from that? Not a clue.

I see. So you lack the ability to extrapolate even the most simple of information. Not surprised at all.

gribbler · June 25, 2012, 20:12

Originally Posted by Ben Kenobi

He doesn't even rate top billing for 'Victorian biological discoveries.' I could be pursuaded to list him in the top 5.

Okay... just for laughs, list your "top five Victorian biological discoveries".

gribbler · June 25, 2012, 20:13

Originally Posted by Ben Kenobi

Malthus still holds sway today. I can go to any class and within 5 minutes pick out someone stating something Malthus said. And more likely than not not knowing who said it. That's how influential Malthus is to the world today.

I wonder if you even understand what Malthus was saying.

Ben Kenobi · June 25, 2012, 20:14

Apparently Da Shi's religion rejects the concept of laziness.

Ben Kenobi · June 25, 2012, 20:17

I wonder if you even understand what Malthus was saying.

f(x) = ax + b
g(x) = cx^2 + d

f'(x) = a
g'(x) = 2cx

Ergo we are boned.

gribbler · June 25, 2012, 20:18

Originally Posted by Ben Kenobi

Clearly you're in need of another nickel and I'm fresh out.

I'm pretty sure Kentonio is British and has no need for any nickels.

gribbler · June 25, 2012, 20:19

Originally Posted by Ben Kenobi

f(x) = ax + b
g(x) = cx^2 + d

f'(x) = a
g'(x) = 2x

Ergo we are boned.

I'm surprised you can get those equations out of school children within five minutes by asking the right questions. Maybe you should think of becoming a math teacher.

Ben Kenobi · June 25, 2012, 20:22

I'm surprised you can get those equations out of school children within five minutes by asking the right questions. Maybe you should think of becoming a math teacher.

Yes I open up my derivatives unit with a discussion of Malthus. I'm a history teacher FFS.

It shouldn't be that hard to figure out what questions I'd ask.

kentonio · June 25, 2012, 20:26

Is the first question 'what did you poor ****ers do to deserve this?'

gribbler · June 25, 2012, 20:27

Originally Posted by Ben Kenobi

Yes I open up my derivatives unit with a discussion of Malthus. I'm a history teacher FFS.

It shouldn't be that hard to figure out what questions I'd ask.

I don't know, what counts as "saying something Malthus already said"? Does saying "we have to grow enough food to feed everyone" count in your book? Maybe you want them to say that scarcity of food could be a problem? I really don't know what you're looking for.

Ben Kenobi · June 25, 2012, 20:31

You'd be surprised what the kids today are getting shoved down their throats. I usually ask them how many people do they think are alive today. That's usually enough to elicit a discussion on overpopulation.

Kids are pumped full of Malthus so I feel it's only fair they get taught the source of it.

DaShi · June 25, 2012, 20:38

Originally Posted by Ben Kenobi

Apparently Da Shi's religion rejects the concept of laziness.

It's only lazy to you because you're not smart enough to even know the time it would take to go from your own classroom to the next. Do you have a "special helper" to get you through the day?

DaShi · June 25, 2012, 20:39

Interesting that Ben would revel in a deadly sin. I guess all that religion talk was just lip service.

Ben Kenobi · June 25, 2012, 20:41

It's only lazy to you because you're not smart enough to even know the time it would take to go from your own classroom to the next. Do you have a "special helper" to get you through the day?

Yeah, I suppose you're the kid who does separate parallax calculations for alpha centauri A and B just to 'be sure'.

Ben Kenobi · June 25, 2012, 20:42

Interesting that Ben would revel in a deadly sin. I guess all that religion talk was just lip service.

Just one?

Remember I'm a republican. I believe in capitalism which is all about being lazy and finding the cheapest, and easiest solution to the problem. If it kills people who cares so long as you save a couple pennies.

DaShi · June 25, 2012, 20:44

Right, you're incredible stupid. Everything needs to be explained to you. Sorry, not used to talking to someone like you.

Sloth. It means laziness.

C0ckney · June 25, 2012, 20:45

Originally Posted by Ben Kenobi

You'd be surprised what the kids today are getting shoved down their throats.

not really. we've all read the stories about catholic schools.

Ben Kenobi · June 25, 2012, 20:48

Man, Poly is slow tonight.

notyoueither · June 25, 2012, 21:33

Originally Posted by Ben Kenobi

Not really. Most of that was Malthus and Galton. Darwin did have the 'Descent of Man', but Galton was the one who really got all the sociobiological ideas at the turn of the century fired up. The whole desire to improve the race of man through good breeding and elimination of the inferior mongoloid races - Galton.

Malthus still holds sway today. I can go to any class and within 5 minutes pick out someone stating something Malthus said. And more likely than not not knowing who said it. That's how influential Malthus is to the world today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Galton

The publication by his cousin Charles Darwin of The Origin of Species in 1859 was an event that changed Galton's life. He came to be gripped by the work, especially the first chapter on "Variation under Domestication" concerning the breeding of domestic animals.

Galton devoted much of the rest of his life to exploring variation in human populations and its implications, at which Darwin had only hinted...

Good job, Ollie.