Reply With QuoteThis reminds me of a recent forum post in Steam (after the release of G&K),
where someone examined the game files and found code snippets for units which were used in the american civil war
(and which aren´t in the game (yet))
My Bold Prediction for the Civilization Series...
Hey all,
I bought Civ V: Gods and Kings the other day, and the moment the intro played I was struck by an idea that seemed almost too obvious.
The basic game has an intro which centers around a leader of a hunter / gatherer group forming a city and his predictions of the future which he tells to his son who is taking over in his place.
Gods and Kings intro shares a similar tone and voice over, and even starts off with similar "my son" lines. What this tells me is that this is a continuation of the story started in the original Civ 5.
Gods and Kings focuses almost exclusively on civilizations and game mechanics which were influential in the middle ages. Religion, Espionage, and even scenarios relevant to the era such as the "Fall of Rome", "Into the Renaissance", etc.
If these two share a common story, and Gods and Kings is a continuation of that story focused on the middle ages, then it follows that a 3rd "chapter" in the saga would focus on either recent past (Industrial Era) *OR* the future, ala Alpha Centuari!
Games are frequently made into trillogies, and Civ II, Civ III, and Civ IV all had precicely 2 expansions.
Thoughts? Ideas?
Am I simply full of bananas?
This reminds me of a recent forum post in Steam (after the release of G&K),
where someone examined the game files and found code snippets for units which were used in the american civil war
(and which aren´t in the game (yet))
Originally Posted by Proteus_MST
It would make more sense for the 3rd to be one of the recent past instead of future, as Alpha Centauri also had an expansion of it's own. :P
I could definitely see Civil War and Industrial Era being the 3rd expansion. This would likely include the primary Civ IV game mechanic which is still absent, Corporations.
I could even see Civil War being a possible outcome of certain situations, as it was when AI Capitols were captured in previous games.
Guerrillas would also likely make a comeback, and with the Industrial Era I could see a lot more involvement with alliances in war.
Dan O.
Of course the steam punk scenario would be more fitting for this chapter 3. Overall not a bad guess though.
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Prediction: The series gets dumbed down even more. Civ6 will be optimized for touchscreen devices. You don't actually build anything, found cities, or research anything anymore. You press the screen, the game responds with "Hooray! YOU WINNAR DURRR DURRRR DURRRRR".
IGN gives Civ6 a perfect 10 out of 10.
QFT
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GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"
I saw that acronym several times today. But what does it mean? I guess it isn't something positive
QFT = Quoted For TruthI saw that acronym several times today. But what does it mean? I guess it isn't something positive
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so
certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
-- Bertrand Russell
Stupid question, but why do you guys go into the Forum for Civilization V if you simply hate it that much?
Do you enjoy being a troll?
Are you like that Apple fanboi who just has to troll the MS boards and poke fun at Windows?
Or are you simply pissed off and just can't help but make sure others feel the same?
I don't know about you all, but where I come from, we have a saying that goes along the lines of if you don't have anything helpful to say, don't say anything at all.
Dan O.
If I am to guess what will happen, then
1) They will add corporation or their equivalent to have different feeling in late stage of the game. They will tie them somehow to CS.
2) They will probably improve espionage
3) They will introduce some new factor (like stability or faith or influence or whatever) to impact through the game, but mostly in the latest stages. It may even be related to the corporation
5) They will tune combat a bit more, and AI. Hopefully they will make units stack-able for storage between the wars.
6) This will be the last expansion before Civ 6, and it will be released in about 1 to 1.5 years from now.
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so
certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
-- Bertrand Russell
I'm going to go with that one. The general feeling I get from veteran players is that this POS is unworthy to be called Civ. Personally, I vented my bile when the game first came out and then went away, but then G&K came out and I was curious to see if the new features sounded less daft (no). Now I have new bile to vent over exciting new crap gimmicks like the religion system, where living next to some trees can make you more religious and stockpile "faith," which is now a collectible commodity like iron ore. Because, you know, that makes sense. Stop encouraging this rubbish by buying it.
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Just curious, did you play G&K?
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so
certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
-- Bertrand Russell
Nope. Nor Civ5. Please don't bother with the why-don't-you-try-it speech. If it's panned by 90%+ of veteran players, that's good enough for me. If it's not good enough for you, do you like green eggs and broken glass? Try it, try it, and you may. Try it and you may, I say.
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Nobody gives a rat's arse if you try it or not Elok. Don't worry.
By all means keep trolling these boards and scare people away from poly if it makes you feel better.
Sure thing.
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No, I am not saying that you should try it, but you do not have a valid point if you did not play. It is not your opinion, it is a hearsay. On top of this 90% number is completely made up. Lots of people including "veterans" like G&K.
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so
certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
-- Bertrand Russell
In one of my G&K games, the AI just marched a single solitary knight right up to my city, which was at 90% health and surrounded by 3 of my legions. The knight pointlessly attacked the city, bringing my city down to 80% health and losing most of its own HPs. So I killed the knight with no fuss. The next turn, another retarded knight took its place. Rinse and repeat.
You are right, maybe 90% of veterans and competent civ players don't think this game is a turd. It might be closer to 100%.
self biased (November 29, 2012)
Schadenfreude in my case.
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"Capitalism ho!"
to provide feedback (if devs happen to be reading), to discuss things with other users, and to evaluate my ever-evolving opinion
Yes.Do you enjoy being a troll?
No. More like the Windows fanboy who posts on MS boards in hopes that the next Windows is improved.Are you like that Apple fanboi who just has to troll the MS boards and poke fun at Windows?
There is a general level of anger I feel. You give me too much credit by implying I can control how other people feel.Or are you simply pissed off and just can't help but make sure others feel the same?
Pointing out faults and shortcomings is probably the most helpful thing loyal customers can do. It's much worse if long time fans of a series stop complaining and give up altogether on Civ by disengaging in the process.I don't know about you all, but where I come from, we have a saying that goes along the lines of if you don't have anything helpful to say, don't say anything at all.
Dan O.
And since you broached the topic on what is helpful... cheerleading idiots are probably the most unhelpful people.
I have equally invalid opinions about North Korea, herpes, crystal meth, phrenology, and base jumping. Do I have to try those too?
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Hmm and how did you calculate that number of 90%+? Or is this also hearsay....
I am not gonna propose that you try the game and respect your choice but here is a very good example of how an assumption/idea is taken as a fact...
If you want me to elaborate, the substantial majority of longtime Civvers on this forum--the ones whose opinions I have cause to respect--who have played this game, have reported it to be quite underwhelming. I think Guy said it was actually fun, just not as good as Civ4. And I guess Ozzy's giving it a fair shake. Other than that, this section of Poly is populated by you and less than a half-dozen other people, some of whom give me the distinct impression of not actually knowing what makes a Civ game tick. The rest of traffic is just "trolls" like me. For a game that's less than two years old and just got its first expansion, that's kind of bad. Kind of really bad. As is the fact that only two people could be bothered to play the expansion and write a review for a chance to win money--and one of them trashed it. Not to mention "Last post in Civ V Multiplayer: June 19."
And it's not just our fault for being terrible trolls or whatever; Civ4 got its share of grief when it came out, it kept chugging and lots of people still play it (probably because its flaws on release were the result of poor execution and lack of polish rather than intrinsic flaws like the absurd 1UPT). Its forum is slightly less lively than here, but hey, it's five or six years old. And half of the traffic this place gets is "hey, it's not an absolutely terrible game" threads.
The mods have been just about killing themselves trying to promote this thing. As have the game designers. Also sale sites like downloadgamehere.com or whatever they're called. So what happened?
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bold prediction is that civ 6 will continue the trend of making games more pleasurable to a different set of people than the original civers. same thing happens with reboot of tv series like battle start galactica or movies as in Star Trek.
they dont always suit the orignal fans, some do still like them, but they tend to be so different deliberatly to try and capture new audience.
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Howdy Raz!
You and Deity and the other Ozzies play Civ V? It has been years since playing Civ II MP with you guys.
So how many veteran players are there in this poll to establish some ACTUALL statistical % numbers?
So far they are not substanciated by more than whoevers circle of a-quaint-ance
Lets have a poll then!!
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The journey itself is the thing~Odysseus
Ive been away from Poly for so long and havent seen Deity posting so not sure he still here on here, maybe he changed names,
Sorry to not see him on the forums as he was definatly my fav person as he was very educational in his advice on how to micromanage in civ2 despite my total lack of inclination to spend anytime actually doing any mircromanagement in the game.
GM of MAFIA #40 ,#41, #43, #45,#47,#49-#51,#53-#58,#61,#68,#70, #71
You are right and i am totally agree with you.T hanx for sharing this nice post.
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Sometimes they get it better when they do a reboot, like they did with BSG. Sometimes they get it worse, like they did with ST.
CivV is okay. G&K is okay. I like the new civs, and I like having espionage back. I like the better interaction with city states. Religion is kind of meh, and late in the game, kinda gets in the way. I think what they did with great leaders is better (though I was a bit surprised when a great general yomped a bunch of land from my neighbors when all I was intending was a citadel to fend off the Japanese.
I really think the designers could learn more from AC (unit design) and CtP (armies and needing different arms types).
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
I haven't posted here in a while, so here's my 2 bits:
I loved Civ4. Played it to death, single and multiplayer.
I played Civ5 for a few days, and haven't touched it since the week it was released. Judging by other veteran players comments, I have no reason to go back.
Why: What Wiglaf said. 1upt kills combat, because without stacks of death, the AI can't compete. The game just got too easy, and I'm bored by it.
More power to the trolls!
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