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    Speer's estrangement from his mom finally explained

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1561046.html


    A New Jersey Superior Court judge ruled Thursday that a couple would not regain custody of their four children, three of whom are named in honor of prominent Nazi historical figures.

    Heath and Deborah Campbell, self-proclaimed Nazis from Holland Township, N.J., first made headlines in January 2009, when a store refused to decorate a birthday cake for their oldest child, Adolf Hitler Campbell, now 6. Shortly after the incident, Adolf and his siblings, JoyceLynn Aryan Nation, now 5, and Honszlynn Hinler Jeanne, now 6, were taken into state custody, the Associated Press reported. Child welfare officials also took custody of the Campbells' youngest child, Hons, hours after his birth in November 2011.

    A state appeals court ruled in 2010 that the children were put at risk of abuse and neglect based on a history of domestic violence in the home, ABC News reported. Deborah Campbell once slipped a note under a neighbor's door saying she was terrified of her husband because he had threatened to kill her, according to court documents. Adolf Hitler Campbell also frequently threatened to kill people, ABC News added.

    Now, after a three-year battle, the Campbells cannot have custody of their children, according to the court. Heath Campbell last saw his children about a year ago and is now separated from his wife, who moved out of the state, the Star-Ledger reported.

    Attorneys on both sides of the case are not allowed to speak to the press due to a gag order, but the children's father spoke out against the ruling. His kids weren't removed from their home for abuse, he argued, but for their parents' beliefs and the names they chose to reflect those sentiments.

    "If I have to give up my Nazism, then so be it. I'll do it," Heath Campbell told the Star-Ledger. "[The children are] more my heart and soul and everything than anything."

    While not allowed to speak about the details of the case, United Press International reported that New Jersey Division of Youth and Family Services spokeswoman Kristine Brown said, "Every call or investigation that DYFS initiates at the end of the day is to determine if the child is at risk or in the midst of child abuse and neglect."

    The family plans to appeal, according to UPI.
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    This is why biological parents should have to go through the same rigorous process that adopting parents do.
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    Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

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    I've never seen it before.
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    I see endless options for sarcasm...
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    I can't see any use other than sarcasm. Sounds good.

    EDIT: On second thought, I can also see enormous potential for spam and the function getting worn out after about two days. But it's worth a shot.
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    I'm angry that I can't thank my own posts. If no one else is going to appreciate my brilliance, at the very least I should be able to.

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    It's a worthless feature that just clutters things up more... sigh... And sarcasm does seem to be it's best use
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    Whoa, look at the similar threads at the bottom. I had no idea there was a campaign to get Speer to change his handle back in the day.

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    WTF is the thank you feature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ming View Post
    It's a worthless feature that just clutters things up more... sigh... And sarcasm does seem to be it's best use
    You're all just jealous that I've thanked more people than all y'all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorizael View Post
    Whoa, look at the similar threads at the bottom. I had no idea there was a campaign to get Speer to change his handle back in the day.
    Whoah, one of my few succesful threads...
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    america has many strange people
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    It's a land of the free where they take your children away for giving them wrong names. What will it be next, taking kids away for naming them Hussein?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander's Horse View Post
    america has many strange people
    Ummm...

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    oh yes we have them too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
    Ummm...

    Al, that's a game you are sure to loose
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    the main difference is Britain exported its loons and non conformists to America whereas we mainly just got the poor and crims
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander's Horse View Post
    the main difference is Britain exported its loons and non conformists to America whereas we mainly just got the poor and crims
    You would describe the Puritans as non-conformists? Maybe to post-Glorious Revolution laissaz-faire, Catholic-loving England but otherwise,

    The real main difference is America is a lot larger so we have a greater volume of whackos.

    Plus we had this discussion before but English are hardly the majority of Americans. We imported people from everywhere.
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    If the cult above is the exclusive brethren, they came from the US

    And yes, the puritans were religious dissenters, we didn't get those
    Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
    Plus we had this discussion before but English are hardly the majority of Americans. We imported people from everywhere.
    That's where you fail - US has way more than their reasonable part of wackos considering size
    With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post
    That's where you fail - US has way more than their reasonable part of wackos considering size
    Please. Afghanistan has more whackos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
    Please. Afghanistan has more whackos.
    If your'e talking about religious nutcases, maybe, if it's political nutcases, then no.
    With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander's Horse View Post
    the main difference is Britain exported its loons and non conformists to America whereas we mainly just got the poor and crims
    The US also acted like a penal colony in lots of cases. In fact, the push to colonize Australia is a direct result of Britain needing a new place to send it's poor and criminals as the US was no longer available.
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    true, Maryland got convicts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander's Horse View Post
    true, Maryland got convicts
    And Catholics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post
    That's where you fail - US has way more than their reasonable part of wackos considering size
    You've got it backwards. America is the one bastion of sanity in this world. Where else do you have genuine gun ownership rights?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander's Horse View Post
    true, Maryland got convicts
    I thought Georgia was the penal colony.
    I come from the land of the ice and snow
    From the rust belt where industry won't go

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    Quote Originally Posted by regexcellent View Post
    You've got it backwards. America is the one bastion of sanity in this world. Where else do you have genuine gun ownership rights?
    Africa.

    We can't open carry RPG-7's and grenades and stuff in America. Damn liberal fascists.
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    Georgia too
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