Reply With QuoteHow about you ask the kid?
Scene I: A child, age 2, is snatched off the street; the kidnappers never leave any kind of message. The child's mother starts to search for the child, never giving up.
Scene II: The child, now age 3, is in another country, with different culture and language. The child is adopted by loving parents who believe the adoption to be totally legal and above board.
Scene III: The natural mother locates the child, now age 8, and demands the child's return. The adoptive parents refuse.
I've stripped most of the details, just to get to the heart of the question -- who should keep this child?
No matter the choice, someone will lose.
"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work...After eight years of this Administration, we have just as much unemployment as when we started... And an enormous debt to boot!" — Henry Morgenthau, Franklin Delano Roosevelt's Treasury secretary, 1941.
How about you ask the kid?
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In the US there is an advocate for the child which considers the child's best interests.
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In the US there is an advocate for the child which considers the child's best interests.
JM
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Ozzy: Then you find for the adoptive parents.
Jon: who said anything about the US? I want to know how you would decide.
"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work...After eight years of this Administration, we have just as much unemployment as when we started... And an enormous debt to boot!" — Henry Morgenthau, Franklin Delano Roosevelt's Treasury secretary, 1941.
depends on whether the adoption was actually legal. which i doubt. the legal answer would thus be 'natural'. at this stage however it is not in the child's best interests any more to go back. a judge might decide that the child would benefit most from staying in current conditions.
if it were my child, however, i would kidnap it back.
Most likely, yea, the kid would stay with the only parents they've known. As long as they get to decide, then its probably the best situation.Originally Posted by The Mad Monk
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How could you ask the kid? Kids can't even speak English at 8. Do you also ask your dog if it'd like to go to a movie with you.
Yep... many people will Lose.
But I have to go with the real mother. She didn't give the kid up, it was kidnapped. No matter how you want to spin the next adoption, the child isn't theirs.
The real mother has the right to her child which trumps ANYTHING ELSE.
(Interesting that you say the child was adopted by loving parents, but there is no mention of "loving" when it comes to the original mother)
Keep on Civin'
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Probably an oversight, but I felt "The child's mother starts to search for the child, never giving up." was sufficient.
"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work...After eight years of this Administration, we have just as much unemployment as when we started... And an enormous debt to boot!" — Henry Morgenthau, Franklin Delano Roosevelt's Treasury secretary, 1941.
I was just wondering if later in the discussion, you were then going to add that the mother was a crack addict, or some other fact that would make here an unfit mother.
Keep on Civin'
RIP Baron O
No, no twists like that. I just want to see how people react to the situation, without complications like nationality coming in. It is a real story, and I will put the details in around this time tomorrow, if the press doesn't beat me to it.
"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work...After eight years of this Administration, we have just as much unemployment as when we started... And an enormous debt to boot!" — Henry Morgenthau, Franklin Delano Roosevelt's Treasury secretary, 1941.
I would do it the King Solomon way and give each of them half.
If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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found it. had to be tejas of course.
In the interest of avoiding twenty questions, I will neither confirm nor deny.
"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work...After eight years of this Administration, we have just as much unemployment as when we started... And an enormous debt to boot!" — Henry Morgenthau, Franklin Delano Roosevelt's Treasury secretary, 1941.
I come from the land of the ice and snow
From the rust belt where industry won't go
It would be funnier if I hadn't already lampshaded that response with my poll question.
"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work...After eight years of this Administration, we have just as much unemployment as when we started... And an enormous debt to boot!" — Henry Morgenthau, Franklin Delano Roosevelt's Treasury secretary, 1941.
I have never before heard the word lampshaded used as a verb.
The child responds by drawing pictures of rainbows that shoot lasers.
I missed that.
If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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You need to read more
is this about that child who disappeared while the family was in Spain or Portugal?
gotta go with the birth folks
"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work...After eight years of this Administration, we have just as much unemployment as when we started... And an enormous debt to boot!" — Henry Morgenthau, Franklin Delano Roosevelt's Treasury secretary, 1941.
Whoever gets it, the other retains the right to be involved in the child's life in some way, just like with divorced parents.
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If I was an advocate for the child, I would get more information.
JM
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I'm going with natural parents.
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Tough question.
I'm thinking some people are going to be upset with how it gets decided. I'm thinking the kid goes back to the birth parents.
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