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If you think saying someone was Born in Kenya when they were Born in America is an 'exaggeration,' it's no wonder the country has gone to **** in the last four years
What was wrong with Bush's last year in office?
He left.
“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
"Capitalism ho!"
Among Speakers Of The House, Tip O'Neill is legendary.Originally Posted by Uncle Sparky
"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work...After eight years of this Administration, we have just as much unemployment as when we started... And an enormous debt to boot!" — Henry Morgenthau, Franklin Delano Roosevelt's Treasury secretary, 1941.
- As Steve Boman reveals, the Dystel & Goderich agency asks its clients to submit their own biography, meaning it’s virtually impossible the listing of Obama’s birthplace as Kenya could have been a “fact checking error” on behalf of the literary company itself.
Here is the day noo mont:
Face Facts:
The Obamas are either being Kenyan, or race-baiting liars.
50-year old Mitt Romney pranks are news to the Washington Post, but clear evidence that Obama is, at best, a manipulative liar --- and has been for years --- is simply ignored, dismissed as right-wing paranoia.
Outrageous.Never mind that the agency used the “born in Kenya” biography until 2007. Never mind that authors who have worked with the agency state that the agency asks that authors pen their own biographies. Never mind that Obama has routinely padded his biographical details to appeal to particular audiences.
Nothing to see here.
Michael Shear, at the New York Times, was in full defense mode:
“Perhaps the darker side of politics is always close to the surface … the conservative Drudge Report Web site published a headline: “BORN IN KENYA,” based on a three-decade-old promotional booklet for a publisher that included an inaccurate biography of Mr. Obama. It stayed on the site for much of the afternoon. The headline linked to a report at Breitbart news, another conservative site, which suggests that the booklet represents a pattern in which Obama — or the people representing and supporting him — manipulate his public persona.’”
We presented a document. The Times calls that “the darker side of politics.” Absurd. And that was the Times’ only coverage of the story – dismissing Obama’s pattern of biographical manipulation without comment. All the news that’s not fit to print.
How about the Washington Post, the paper that assured us that Mitt Romney’s 50-year-old haircut incidents were news? It trotted out leftist stalwarts and Friends of Media Matters Greg Sargent and Erik Wemple to cover for Obama and his literary agency. Sargent scoffed, “rumor has it the whitey tape will break any minute now.” Wemple’s only comment: “Okay.”
Well, okay, then.
How about the Los Angeles Times, which still refuses to release tape of Obama speaking with Palestine Liberation Organization former spokesman Rashid Khalidi at an anti-Israel event? Not a word.
How about Obama’s hometown paper, the Chicago Tribune? Crickets. The Boston Globe? Nada. CBS? Nope. NBC? Nothing. ABC News’ website did mention the story, but only by syndicating a Yahoo! News report – and meanwhile, Jake Tapper was on Twitter, downplaying the story.
Huffington Post did cover the story – but not initially. Instead, they waited for Obama’s literary agency to fall on the sword, making the dubious claim that she had committed a simple “fact checking error” – a fact-checking error that lasted 16 years and two agencies, all the way until after Obama launched his presidential campaign in 2007.
What was Huffington Post’s headline? “Birthers Make Another Blunder.” Once you click in, the headline becomes, “Obama Birther Rumor Debunked As Literary Agent Clarifies Mistake.” The first line of the piece? “Barack Obama birth certificate conspiracy theorists have been foiled again.”
This leaves questions as to whether the Huffington Post’s editors are actually literate, since Breitbart News’ piece introducing the Obama bio explicitly states repeatedly that Breitbart News is not stating that Obama was born in Kenya, supports the veracity of the Obama birth certificate, and explains that the evidence goes to Obama’s construction of his own biography. Huffington Post did quote the original piece, but buried Breitbart News’ non-birtherism at the end of its article labeling the story a “birther” story. This is magnificently dishonest, and played just as Obama would have his minions play the story.
Politico’s Dylan Byers covered the story by calling it “an old claim that Obama was born in Kenya.” This would be a lie. It’s not an “old claim.” It’s a biography put out by Obama’s literary agency, his legal representative in the literary world. And it lasted on their website for 16 years. No doubt Byers’ check is in the mail from the Obama campaign.
So, what important news was the mainstream media covering while conspicuously ignoring the hottest story on the internet, and a story that calls into question the character of the President of the United States?
The New York Times ran a piece on how one Jolie Clifford likes wearing clothing cribbed from 1950s issues of Playboy.
The Washington Post had an article on an angler who “may have broken world record with snakehead caught in Occoquan River.” The Post did not report whether Mitt Romney lashed the snakehead to the roof of his car.
The Los Angeles Times posted a piece explaining how Los Angeles’ electric car drivers are different from others across the nation.
The Chicago Tribune did an article on Doodling for Google. Whatever that means.
How about the Boston Globe? They don’t have anything on Obama’s bio. They do, however, want readers to know that “With jazz trio Pilc Moutin Hoenig, anything can happen.”
The NBC News website featured video showing a five-time “Jeopardy!” champ rating Chuck Todd’s “Celebrity Jeopardy!” appearance. Todd beat comedian Lewis Black and columnist Clarence Page, in case you were wondering.
CBS reports in breaking news that Carla Bruni-Sarkozy, wife of former French President Nicholas Sarkozy, is returning to the music industry and will release a new album by the end of the year. The world waits with bated breath.
Clearly, the mainstream media has better things to do than cover stories calling into question how the President of the United States has spent his life constructing and reconstructing his persona. Clearly, they are too busy to vet this president. That’s why Breitbart News does it.
People laugh at this because they can't respond rationally. Mitt Romney's 50 year old pranks? EVIDENCE HE IS A MONSTER.
They're Birther Baiters.
"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work...After eight years of this Administration, we have just as much unemployment as when we started... And an enormous debt to boot!" — Henry Morgenthau, Franklin Delano Roosevelt's Treasury secretary, 1941.
Before Obama had a plan to run for president, he certainly wanted people to think he was Kenyan. That's the unavoidable conclusion to draw here. Fairly troubling that the president would be so quick to lie to sell books and raise his profile. It's not surprising, since that other Democrat, Elizabeth Warren also lied for years about being a minority to get her career going. Why do liberals get such a kick out of using race as a political football?
Gee, maybe they asked Obama for some info for his biography, he told them his father was Kenyan, and they mistakenly thought he was born there. Why would he lie about it? Does anyone really think being born in Kenya sells books? If it did there would be a lot of rich Kenyan authors.
Yes, being a Kenyan-born president of the Harvard Law Review is pretty remarkable, and would help to sell a biography about his amazing, unbelievable, miraculous life story. Which is entirely about race in America. It's hard to get around that.
They don't ask for "some info" for the biography. The agency's practice is to request a full biography from clients. The agency then produced a bio that survived multiple revisions and updates over nearly a decade. It was only pulled once Obama got presidential ambitions.
Try again.
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...so you're saying there's no reason to make that particular exageration?
"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work...After eight years of this Administration, we have just as much unemployment as when we started... And an enormous debt to boot!" — Henry Morgenthau, Franklin Delano Roosevelt's Treasury secretary, 1941.
Take note:
- As Steve Boman reveals, the Dystel & Goderich agency asks its clients to submit their own biography, meaning it’s virtually impossible the listing of Obama’s birthplace as Kenya could have been a “fact checking error” on behalf of the literary company itself.
I come from the land of the ice and snow
From the rust belt where industry won't go
You think they print the biographies verbatim and don't edit them in any way? So Tip O'Neill is really an arrogant grandiose ******* who chose to describe himself as "legendary"? And everyone just happened to choose to write their own biography in third person?
Lots of people are pretty narcissistic, including our current President.
I come from the land of the ice and snow
From the rust belt where industry won't go
There's a rather large gulf between "legendary" and "Kenyan".
"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work...After eight years of this Administration, we have just as much unemployment as when we started... And an enormous debt to boot!" — Henry Morgenthau, Franklin Delano Roosevelt's Treasury secretary, 1941.
Lots of people are pretty narcissistic, including our current President.
These are good observations. Do you really think Obama didn't write --- or even READ --- his own biography on the book for ten years?
Why assume he read a booklet that was distributed to business colleagues just because it mentions him? You're assuming he's a narcissist and then using that to conclude he's a liar. You have no objectivity.
These are good observations. Do you really think Obama didn't write --- or even READ --- his own biography on the book for ten years?
Why would it be narcessistic to check on what your own PR people are writing about you?
Not doing that would be sloppy, if not unprofessional.
Public figures live and die on their PR.
"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work...After eight years of this Administration, we have just as much unemployment as when we started... And an enormous debt to boot!" — Henry Morgenthau, Franklin Delano Roosevelt's Treasury secretary, 1941.
This whole thread is a hoot.
"My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
"The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud
Guy, as totally noninterested bystander, let me ask:
Would you wife review things like this, or just assume everything is hunky-dory?
I know my brother would be all over this, but YMMV.
"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work...After eight years of this Administration, we have just as much unemployment as when we started... And an enormous debt to boot!" — Henry Morgenthau, Franklin Delano Roosevelt's Treasury secretary, 1941.
#1: The publishing industry is bursting at the seams with incompetents, morons, and fools.
#2: My wife is... well, a little more OCD than the average person. She would definitely catch this. If it were me, would I catch it? Probably not.
"My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
"The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud
What? This isn't a small typo that you "catch." It is a book ABOUT race. To argue about catching an innocent typo is one thing. This is a major "mistake" that goes to the core of the books purpose. Coincidental? Come on.
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I'm under the impression that this was for a potential book that wasn't written; is that not the case?
"My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
"The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud
You've got the guys wife saying he's from Kenya. His own bio said it for years. Either this elite publishing house fabricated Obama's birthplace, disregarding the bio Obama himself submitted to them, or the president wanted to play up his life story --- as his wife did --- to seem more compelling. Not hard people.
It was a blurb for a book that became Dreams from my Father.
If Obama wanted to fabricate his life story he would have claimed to be born in Kenya in Dreams from My Father.
DFMF was released as he began his political career. The blurb was written for a memoir prior to his political ambitions, a memoir that probably did make that claim.
You claimed earlier that he wanted to be born in Kenya until he read the Constitution in 2007. Liar. :rollleyes:
I suspect what happened is, Obama wanted to appear Kenyan-born until 1995, when his political ambitions kicked in. Lying wholesale in a book, or in his biography, struck him as a poor idea at that point, presumably because he had given the Constitution a cursory glance while at Harvard Law School. So his initial book was scrapped (probably because it mentioned his Kenyan birth in both the book cover and book text) and gave way to Dreams from my Father, which excised all mentions of the Kenyan birth. Obama failed to notify the publisher to change the Kenya line until 2007, when he and his publisher probably re-read the Constitution.
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From the brilliant Jim Treacher:
Yesterday, Big Government reported that back in 1991, Obama’s literary agency, Acton & Dystel, put out a bio claiming he was born in Kenya.
Which is weird, because as all reasonable people know by now, Obama was born in Hawaii.
And of course, the left’s reaction has been predictable: “Hurr, hurr, Birthers, derp derp!” Because apparently, sometime within the last 24 hours, “Birther” has been redefined to mean “somebody who believes Obama wasn’t born in Kenya.” The word “Birther” means whatever lefties need it to mean, at the moment they need it to mean that. Just like every other word in every other language.
Unless you’re a credulous rube, it sure does look like Obama told his literary agency that he was born in Kenya for some reason. And the false information wasn’t corrected until April 2007, a couple of months after he launched his presidential campaign.
“But wait,” you protest. “How do you know Obama wrote that? How do you know he ever even saw it? Shut up!” Well, we all know that Obama is the exception to every rule, so maybe he’s the exception to this one too. Author and television producer Steve Boman writes at Breitbart.com about his own mid-’90s working relationship with literary agent Miriam Goderich, the woman who now claims the “born in Kenya” misinformation was somehow a “fact-checking error”:
Now let me say right up front: when it comes to Obama, I’m not going to speculate who wrote what, when. Dystel had assistants, one of whom is now her partner, Miriam Goderich, who says the whole Obama-born-in-Kenya thing was a fact-checking mistake by her. And I cannot speak specifically to the mechanism of Dystel’s publicity. (Alas, Dystel was unable to sell anything I wrote, so she had no reason to promote me, but I’m getting ahead of myself.)
I can speak of what she was like to work with and how she generated material. In my dealings with Dystel, I found her exceptionally thorough and very professional. She had a template she wanted non-fiction writers to follow, and my writing partner and I followed her template closely. She was rather fastidious, going so far as to mail a personal “Season’s Greetings” card in December.
All material she used in our proposals came directly from me and my writing partner. She edited our rough-draft proposals and gave us feedback, but the final versions were all ours. Our final versions, bio included, were then simply photo-copied, by us, and distributed to potential publishers. This was back in the pre-Google days, recall.
I was asked to write the bio in the third person.
Lefties, I will now pause while you go look up “third person.”
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Got it? Okay.
So, either Obama wrote his own bio, as Boman was required to, or he didn’t. If he did, why did he claim he was born in Kenya, when we all know he was actually born in Hawaii?
If Obama didn’t write that, for whatever reason, who did? Why did that person think Obama was born in Kenya? In what possible sense is botching a client’s birthplace by 10,000 miles a “fact-checking error”? And why did Obama let it slide for 16 years, until he decided to run for president?
I suppose it’s possible that Obama told the truth and wrote “born in Hawaii,” but then this fact-checker changed it to “Kenya.” If that’s what happened, why did it happen?
And is there a particular reason I’m not supposed to ask any of these things?
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