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    Quote Originally Posted by The Mad Monk View Post
    Romney doesn't take Massachusetts?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    This seems very reasonable to me. I think the ones to watch are, in no particular order, Nevada, New Hampshire, Ohio, Iowa, Virginia, Florida, and the Omaha district of Nebraska, if it gets really exciting.

    More longshot surprise states would be Pennsylvania, Missouri, and Colorado.

    And if things get real nuts, North Carolina and Indiana could go back to the blue, while a surpise Midwestern state (Michigan, most likely) flips red.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
    Virgil Goode polls > 5 percent. They did a poll with Goode in VA and it showed Romney down 12 in Virginia. My map assumes that Goode runs and does well, splitting the vote.
    I think that fewer than 5 percent of Americans have even heard of Goode or the Constitution Party. Still, it's good to see you're as crazy as ever.
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    Constitution Party getting over 5% of the vote...

    Homophobic Canadians be crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felch View Post
    I think that fewer than 5 percent of Americans have even heard of Goode or the Constitution Party. Still, it's good to see you're as crazy as ever.
    I think that fewer than .5 percent of Americans have heard of Goode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupac Shakur View Post
    I think that fewer than .5 percent of Americans have heard of Goode.
    And he lost the election for his House seat

    I hadn't even heard of him, and he's from my state. I bet most of the people in his district have forgotten who he is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guynemer View Post


    You serious?
    Romney might be able to overperform significantly in Massachusetts, but I can't see him winning it outright.
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    I think that fewer than 5 percent of Americans have even heard of Goode or the Constitution Party. Still, it's good to see you're as crazy as ever.
    I was supporting Cain, but due to my ban I couldn't extoll his virtues here. It's been a long and frusterating primary season, especially since the Gingrich space cadets screwed Santorum over.
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    303-235, thus:

    EVMap.GIF
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guynemer View Post


    You serious?
    Romney was governor there, right?
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    And Al Gore was the Senator from Tennessee, for all the good that did him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guynemer View Post
    And Al Gore was the Senator from Tennessee, for all the good that did him.
    *sigh* That still stings, 12 years and 2 presidents later.

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    So you're saying that singular event wasn't so singular?
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    I'm saying that if Romney wins Massachusettes, I will eat the disgusting quasi-food item of your choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guynemer View Post
    And Al Gore was the Senator from Tennessee, for all the good that did him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guynemer View Post
    I'm saying that if Romney wins Massachusettes, I will eat the disgusting quasi-food item of your choice.
    He managed to win a gubernatorial election there so anything's possible. We know what the polls say but Mass. voters did vote for Romney before.


    Looking at the electoral map, it's evident that Romney MUST win Florida. I don't see any way Romney could realistically win if Obama gets Florida.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guynemer View Post
    I'm saying that if Romney wins Massachusettes, I will eat the disgusting quasi-food item of your choice.
    The safer bet is something like "if Obama wins at least six states, he will win MA."

    It would almost take a literal miracle to make that statement false.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
    He managed to win a gubernatorial election there so anything's possible. We know what the polls say but Mass. voters did vote for Romney before.


    Looking at the electoral map, it's evident that Romney MUST win Florida. I don't see any way Romney could realistically win if Obama gets Florida.
    You could also say he must win Texas. There's no way Romney could realistically win if Obama gets Texas. But the question is whether it would flip before other states. If Obama wins Florida, he also wins other states he would need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    The safer bet is something like "if Obama wins at least six states, he will win MA."

    It would almost take a literal miracle to make that statement false.
    I think you need to put the number higher than six states. I would expect Romney to overperform a generic Republican in Massachusetts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
    I think you need to put the number higher than six states. I would expect Romney to overperform a generic Republican in Massachusetts.
    I was giving Romney an edge over the generic Republican. MA is Obama's third-strongest state, just barely behind Hawaii and Vermont.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
    Looking at the electoral map, it's evident that Romney MUST win Florida. I don't see any way Romney could realistically win if Obama gets Florida.
    He could do it, but he'd have to pick up Pennsylvania, and that doesn't seem very likely this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufus T. Firefly View Post
    He could do it, but he'd have to pick up Pennsylvania, and that doesn't seem ver likely this year.
    Karl Rove framed it in terms of a 3-2-1 strategy. The three usually-Republican states of VA, IN, and NC. The two infamous swing states of OH and FL. And one more.

    His board looks like this.

    I think it is very difficult to come up with a plausible win for Romney that doesn't follow that path. He's not going to carry the entire upper midwest and lose Ohio or Florida.
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    In the Rove framework, the strategy becomes pretty clear. Obama should decide whether to pour his heart and soul into denying one of the "2", or should he just defend all of the states I left "undecided" there?

    The OH and FL pair are both slightly Republican-leaning in a typical 50-50 vote, which makes them scary to defend. In contrast, the nine states that could be potential tipping points for Romney are all quite Democratic-leaning, but that's a lot of states to defend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guynemer View Post
    I'm saying that if Romney wins Massachusettes, I will eat the disgusting quasi-food item of your choice.
    Smutto.
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    Please can an Obama love-child come out of the woodwork before November...
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    What did Guynemer ever do to you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    In the Rove framework, the strategy becomes pretty clear. Obama should decide whether to pour his heart and soul into denying one of the "2", or should he just defend all of the states I left "undecided" there?

    The OH and FL pair are both slightly Republican-leaning in a typical 50-50 vote, which makes them scary to defend. In contrast, the nine states that could be potential tipping points for Romney are all quite Democratic-leaning, but that's a lot of states to defend.
    I think Ohio in particular is going to be a tough win for the GOP this year, especially given the unpopularity of their governor.
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    This reminds me very strongly of NFL talk.
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    It's certainly my favorite spectator sport.
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