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  • Originally posted by OzzyKP View Post
    Oh sure, everyone wants zero taxes and massive government handouts. No surprises there. In the real world though, those two things don't go together well. (sadly, politicians try to make them go together as much as possible...)
    Ok one last time.. it would cost less, and cover everyone. You don't need to be a ****ing genius to figure out that its in everyones best interests. Instead the right continually lies about how its bankrupting Europe and the service is **** and panels decide who gets to live and die and all the rest of the inane bull**** and so 20,000 US citizens a year get to die for no reason at all.

    It's totally ****ing retarded.

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    • I also agree with that.
      Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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      • Single payer would be much better than Obamacare. Hopefully SCOTUS will strike down the entirety of Obamacare so Congress can replace it with a sane system.

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        • Amen.

          Single payer is approximately 2000% better than Obamacare and the landscape pre-Obamacare.

          Of course, we ain't never gonna have single payer, so that does us a ****load of good.
          "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
          "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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          • Originally posted by Tupac Shakur View Post
            Single payer would be much better than Obamacare. Hopefully SCOTUS will strike down the entirety of Obamacare so Congress can replace it with a sane system.
            Personally I would prefer something along the lines discussed here.
            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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            • Originally posted by Guynemer View Post
              Amen.

              Single payer is approximately 2000% better than Obamacare and the landscape pre-Obamacare.

              Of course, we ain't never gonna have single payer, so that does us a ****load of good.
              This.
              Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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              • Originally posted by Guynemer View Post
                Amen.

                Single payer is approximately 2000% better than Obamacare and the landscape pre-Obamacare.

                Of course, we ain't never gonna have single payer, so that does us a ****load of good.
                How are you enjoying that phat Medicare money paid to doctors?
                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                • Originally posted by kentonio View Post
                  You mean the now Republican led congress which has shown such willingness to pass legislation?
                  As opposed to the Democratic congress? What's your point? That the law may no longer be the will of the people acting through their representatives?
                  "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                  • Originally posted by Dinner View Post
                    That ignores the fact that congress already did pass the good parts so now we're talking about the SCotUS throwing out duly passed laws not because they're unconstitutional but because they're trying to legislate stuff. If something really is unconstitutional, and I doubt any of it really is despite what partisan political actors on the court may say, then they need to invalidate ONLY those parts which directly violate the constitution and not try to dream up excuses to invalidate those duly passed parts which are constitutional.
                    No Congress did not pass the good parts...Congress passed ALL the parts. At no time that I am aware did Cogress even propose a bill on the good parts. Are you stating that you can read Congresses mind? I think it is better if Congress tells us what they think instead of relying on your guess or psychic power.
                    "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                    • Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                      How are you enjoying that phat Medicare money paid to doctors?
                      I'm a pediatrician, DD. I never see a thin red cent from Medicare.
                      "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                      "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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                      • Originally posted by Guynemer View Post
                        I'm a pediatrician, DD. I never see a thin red cent from Medicare.
                        Medicaid then.
                        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                        • Originally posted by Guynemer View Post
                          Single payer is approximately 2000% better than Obamacare and the landscape pre-Obamacare.

                          Of course, we ain't never gonna have single payer, so that does us a ****load of good.
                          Struth. Still, for people in our age group, ending Obamacare is worthwhile on its own merits.

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                          • Originally posted by kentonio View Post
                            Ok one last time.. it would cost less, and cover everyone. You don't need to be a ****ing genius to figure out that its in everyones best interests. Instead the right continually lies about how its bankrupting Europe and the service is **** and panels decide who gets to live and die and all the rest of the inane bull**** and so 20,000 US citizens a year get to die for no reason at all.

                            It's totally ****ing retarded.
                            Over the 10-year period from 2012 through 2021, enactment of the coverage provisions of the ACA was projected last March to increase federal deficits by $1,131 billion.

                            Why do I keep reading about Europeans coming to the U.S. for Medical treatment? Maybe some of you guys actually get really sick and want to get better?
                            "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                            • Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                              Medicaid then.
                              Medicaid reimbursements are pretty much on par with what I get from private insurers, and generally quicker with fewer hassles as well, at least according to our business manager.
                              "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                              "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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                              • Originally posted by PLATO View Post
                                Why do I keep reading about Europeans coming to the U.S. for Medical treatment? Maybe some of you guys actually get really sick and want to get better?
                                Anecdotes = Evidence!
                                "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                                "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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