NFL Football - 2012 Season Thread

[-Jrabbit]

It's official -- Mario Williams shuffles off to Buffalo.

Bills signed DE/OLB Mario Williams to a six-year contract.

According to ESPN's Chris Mortensen, the move will be officially announced at a 12:30PM ET press conference. Monetary terms are not yet available, but the Bills are widely expected to make Williams the highest-paid defensive player in NFL history. Bears RE Julius Peppers has held that honor since March 2010, where he signed a six-year, $84 million deal that included $42 million guaranteed. It's a safe bet Williams' pact will dwarf those numbers. From a football perspective, the Bills provide Williams a chance to move back to his natural position of defensive end as they switch from a 3-4 to 4-3 defensive front. The No. 1 overall pick of the 2006 draft has notched 53.5 sacks in 82 career games.

Source: Chris Mortensen on Twitter
Mar 15 - 12:26 PM

[Imran Siddiqui]

And Laurent Robinson is off the board, as well.



The Jags also added Chad Henne on a 2-year deal.

Laurent Robinson is making a lot for a guy who was a bust until spot duty last year.

That's fun. Chalk it up to the new Head Coach. Mike Mularkey was the Falcons' OC when Robinson was on the team (and was dropped on the depth chart & traded).

[Donegeal]

It's official -- Mario Williams shuffles off to Buffalo.

Dammit. Never even given a chance.

[-Jrabbit]

He's making more than Peppers. How do you turn that down?

[SlowwHand]

My cousins in Houston are having a shitfit.

[Donegeal]

He's making more than Peppers. How do you turn that down?

He would have had a shot at the Lombardi if he signed with the Bears. He'll be lucky to make the playoffs on the Bills.

[-Jrabbit]

Lovely thought. Have some more Kool-Aid, Donegeal.
Oh, and put on these blinders.

[Al B. Sure!]

Donegeal's optimism is nauseating. The Bears play in the same division as the Packers and the same conference as the Giants, Saints, Falcons, 49ers, etc. They have their work cut out for them. The AFC is a lot weaker at this point.

[Donegeal]

The Bears with Williams had a MUCH better chance of getting a ring than the Bills with Williams.

And remember, the Bears are one season removed from a close NFC Championship loss to the eventual SB champs, and that was without a WR1.

[Al B. Sure!]

The Bears with Williams had a MUCH better chance of getting a ring than the Bills with Williams.

And remember, the Bears are one season removed from a close NFC Championship loss to the eventual SB champs, and that was without a WR1.

You know what the Bears' average opponent winning percentage was that year? 0.476! Easy freaking schedule! They were lucky to have a very easy schedule and played only 6 games against opponents with winning records (that includes the Packers twice!). 10 games against teams with losing records. 3-3 against teams with winning records.

They secured a first round bye off that easy schedule and lucked up to face off against the 7-9 Seattle Seahawks at Soldier Field. They had the Packers to take out the competitive teams like the Falcons and Eagles.

The Bears weren't as good as the NFC Championship appearance would indicate. They were very lucky in 2010.

[Al B. Sure!]

2010 Bears were the 30th ranked offense and 9th ranked defense, by yards, by the way.

[Ming]

Blah Blah Blah...

You can only win the games you play.
And winning is what the league is all about.

They were on a roll last year until they lost their QB and RB... But go ahead and say they suck... like usual, you are a moron.
And frankly, most people don't give a damn what you think.

[Al B. Sure!]

Blah Blah Blah...

You can only win the games you play.
And winning is what the league is all about.

They were on a roll last year until they lost their QB and RB... But go ahead and say they suck... like usual, you are a moron.
And frankly, most people don't give a damn what you think.

Your prejudice against me is getting old and only makes you look like a jackass.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Make more than any other defensive player vs. an outside, maybe shot at a Championship.... um, that's not exactly a tough choice.

It isn't like he was deciding among the Packers, Patriots, etc.

[Al B. Sure!]

Make more than any other defensive player vs. an outside, maybe shot at a Championship.... um, that's not exactly a tough choice.

It isn't like he was deciding among the Packers, Patriots, etc.

Better watch out. This is Chicago Bears Civilization Site and the orange and blue kool-aid is flowing.

[-Jrabbit]

2010 Bears were the 30th ranked offense and 9th ranked defense, by yards, by the way.

Alby, the 2010 Bears defense and special teams scored/created a LOT of points and short fields. FWIW, I would suggest that yardage is just about the worst metric you could choose to describe that team.

[Al B. Sure!]

Alby, the 2010 Bears defense and special teams scored/created a LOT of points and short fields. FWIW, I would suggest that yardage is just about the worst metric you could choose to describe that team.

It was an addition to my other point that they had an especially easy schedule, including in the playoffs.

[SlowwHand]

The defense of the Bears hasn't been, isn't and probably never will be the problem. As always, they have a serviceable RB. The QB doesn't suck.
Kids, think about it. As I said, and was concurred with by a Bears fan, they need to address the OL, number 1, period.
They could sign Johnson from the Lions and whomever else as 2nd and 3rd WRs and it won't matter if Cutler is gazing at the sky, flat on his back.

[-Jrabbit]

I don't think anyone disagrees with that, Sloww. Most of the Chicago contingent here has been harping on it for years. Eliminating the Martz offense should help quite a bit. But yeah, a real left tackle would be nice. Hell, as far as I'm concerned, they could spent their top 5 picks on O-linemen.

Fun fact: Despite his good pocket awareness and reasonable escapability, Cutler is still the most-sacked QB in the league since coming to Chicago.

[SlowwHand]

Actually, you're the Bears fan I was referencing. Your fun fact illustrates the point to perfection.

[-Jrabbit]

It was an addition to my other point that they had an especially easy schedule, including in the playoffs.

Having an easy schedule does not make a team bad. The Saints had an easy playoff schedule and lost to Seattle.

The bottom line is that Chicago was within 7 pts of taking down Green Bay and going to the Super Bowl, and that was with Cutler hurt and Caleb Hanie at the helm.

So now I'm forced to suggest that both your points were flawed.

[Al B. Sure!]

I don't think anyone disagrees with that, Sloww. Most of the Chicago contingent here has been harping on it for years. Eliminating the Martz offense should help quite a bit. But yeah, a real left tackle would be nice. Hell, as far as I'm concerned, they could spent their top 5 picks on O-linemen.

Fun fact: Despite his good pocket awareness and reasonable escapability, Cutler is still the most-sacked QB in the league since coming to Chicago.

Another fun fact: Cutler was sacked more times in 2010's 15 games (52 times) than in all 3 years (37 games!) in Denver (51 sacks over 3 years)

[Ming]

Your prejudice against me is getting old and only makes you look like a jackass.

Well... maybe if you didn't keep saying moronic things people wouldn't call you a moron.
And it's not prejudice... ask just about anybody here who reads your posts, and they will pretty much say the exact same thing.

Have a nice day you moronic jackass.

[Al B. Sure!]

Well... maybe if you didn't keep saying moronic things people wouldn't call you a moron.
And it's not prejudice... ask just about anybody here who reads your posts, and they will pretty much say the exact same thing.

Have a nice day you moronic jackass.

I will not be bullied off the site.


Eddie Royal signed with the Chargers.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Better watch out. This is Chicago Bears Civilization Site and the orange and blue kool-aid is flowing.

Unfortunately... truth.

[-Jrabbit]

I have no problem with Alby. I just happen to disagree with some of his posts.

[Ming]

I will not be bullied off the site.

You attack people and whine like a stuck pig when they fight back. Deal with it.

And the simple fact is, you post moronic stuff. And if you keep doing so, don't be surprised when you get called on it.
And if you act like an ass, you will be treated like one.

Have a great day.

[Imran Siddiqui]

I have no problem with Alby. I just happen to disagree with some of his posts.

Indeed. You tend to be civil about it as well.

[Al B. Sure!]

Indeed. You tend to be civil about it as well.

Yeah Ming is just a bully. I hope he'll realize at some point that his tirades against me for daring to commit the heresy of saying the 2010 Bears were more lucky than good (gasp!) are just making him look like a jerk.

[SlowwHand]

I don't think you need to say so much about Ming's attitude, given your own.