Study does not show lung damage from marijuana

[gribbler]

Even though Jesus supplied a wedding with wine, he thinks supplying people with drugs is wrong.

[Kidicious]

Berz, I'm doing a good thing here, not throwing stones at people mkay. I'm informing people of what taking drugs does to you. I'm not talking about drinking wine at weddings. I have a glass now and again as well. That said, I don't see how anyone could say that it's ok to be an alcoholic. You can only serve one master. Jesus said that. So drugs aren't wrong if you don't make them your master. Obviously pot is Wezil's master. I don't know about you but I don't think God is truly your master, but that's for you to say.

I want to say this though, if God is truly your master you don't need drugs to be happy. Drugs make you unhappy. Real christians know this, that's why we are against drugs. They keep you from what God wants for you.

[Kidicious]

asked him yourself did you?

A lot of people think God gives them the political right to do things like take whatever drugs they wish. That's simply not true. None of these so called rights are given by God. On the contrary, God gives authority to governments to rule as they see fit. It's in the Bible.

[loinburger]

On the contrary, God gives authority to governments to rule as they see fit.

E.g. throwing Christians to the lions, which you seem especially fond of

You never were able to explain the difference between a just law and an unjust law, presumably because you don't know the difference between the two (or because your definition of a "just law" is "any law I agree with" or something similar)

[Berzerker]

Berz, I'm doing a good thing here, not throwing stones at people mkay. I'm informing people of what taking drugs does to you. I'm not talking about drinking wine at weddings. I have a glass now and again as well. That said, I don't see how anyone could say that it's ok to be an alcoholic.

You can only serve one master. Jesus said that. So drugs aren't wrong if you don't make them your master. Obviously pot is Wezil's master. I don't know about you but I don't think God is truly your master, but that's for you to say.

I want to say this though, if God is truly your master you don't need drugs to be happy. Drugs make you unhappy. Real christians know this, that's why we are against drugs. They keep you from what God wants for you.

Your savior gave barrels of wine to people who were already getting drunk, perhaps you shouldn't cite him as a supporter of your violence against unhappy people.

A lot of people think God gives them the political right to do things like take whatever drugs they wish. That's simply not true. None of these so called rights are given by God. On the contrary, God gives authority to governments to rule as they see fit. It's in the Bible.

I believe that came from Paul while he sat in a Roman jail awaiting punishment, and its taken out of context... He wasn't saying governments have God's endorsement, he was saying governments are charged with the duty of ruling justly. Or are you really suggesting Jesus was fine with the Romans? Their brutality was God's will?

[Kidicious]

I specifically said He doesn't support the govt. He gives the govt the right to rule, and yes that includes the Romans. There is nowhere in the Bible that says He opposed the Romans. His opposition to the religious authority is different.

Again, there is nothing in the Bible about individual rights except that it says you don't have any. Men aren't suppose to be their own masters. They do a horrible job of it. That's why many of them take drugs and such. God's plan for you is to be obedient. With obedience comes joy that you can't get from a drug.

[gribbler]

You can only serve one master. Jesus said that.

A lot of people think God gives them the political right to do things like take whatever drugs they wish. That's simply not true. None of these so called rights are given by God. On the contrary, God gives authority to governments to rule as they see fit. It's in the Bible.

You can't serve two masters... now shut up and obey the government because it's your master

[Kidicious]

Yes, "Now I want you to know, brothers, that what has happened to me has really served to advance the gospel."

Paul did indeed say that the Roman govt served God by seeking their own interest (persecuting christians)

[Felch]

On the contrary, God gives authority to governments to rule as they see fit. It's in the Bible.

Please cite chapter and verse, for our edification.

[loinburger]

"It's in there, I'm not going to bother saying where." -Kidicious

[Thoth]

Berz, I'm doing a good thing here, not throwing stones at people mkay. I'm informing people of what believing in God does to you. I'm not talking about believing in God at weddings. I have a toke now and again as well. That said, I don't see how anyone could say that it's ok to be a Godoholic. You can only serve one masturbater. Jesus said that. So God isn't wrong if you don't make him/her your master. Obviously God is my master. I don't know about you but I don't think pot is truly your master, but that's for you to say.

I want to say this though, if pot is truly your master you don't need God to be happy. God make you unhappy. Real potsmokers know this, that's why we are against God. They keep you from what pot wants for you.

Fixed.

[Berzerker]

Yes, "Now I want you to know, brothers, that what has happened to me has really served to advance the gospel."

Paul did indeed say that the Roman govt served God by seeking their own interest (persecuting christians)

God certainly does work in mysterious ways, but why was it persecution if governments have God's permission to do what they want?

[Kidicious]

God certainly does work in mysterious ways, but why was it persecution if governments have God's permission to do what they want?

I can't say for sure but it has to do with the big picture. It's just the way things are. We are sinfull beings, but we have the potential for greatness. Paul was great and so were many in those days.

[Berzerker]

Yes, but why is it persecution if God wanted to paint that bigger picture with the blood of the martyrs?

[Kidicious]

Some will be martyrs and some will be persecuted. Some have illness, disabilities or drug addiction. The list goes on. We are going to suffer in this world. This is how we become a new creation, or as it says in James, the first fruits of creation. Who ever becomes a great christian without hardship?

[Berzerker]

Yes, but why is it persecution if God wanted to paint that bigger picture with the blood of the martyrs?

...

[gribbler]

I wonder if Kidicious thinks God wanted Christians to obey the government in Nazi Germany? Going along with the Holocaust would have been the Christian thing to do in his mind?

[Kidicious]

...

If you're asking can a govt be removed or punished, yes. God does a lot of that in the Bible. That's why we don't rebel. Only God can remove a govt.

[Proteus_MST]

So what you say is, that the settlers in the british colonies on american soil should have stayed quiet instead of rebelling against the british government and should have waited for god, to do the job for them

[C0ckney]

A lot of people think God gives them the political right to do things like take whatever drugs they wish. That's simply not true. None of these so called rights are given by God.

this is a ridiculous strawman and does nothing to answer the question.

On the contrary, God gives authority to governments to rule as they see fit. It's in the Bible.

please cite the chapter and verse.

[rah]

I do find it amazing that the non religious people here are more informed about about it than those that profess faith. More proof that faith is just an excuse not to have to think.

[Kidicious]

Cockney, what I've learned about people like you is that you don't really care about the particular verse (see my latest exchange with lori). Just read the Bible for yourself.

[Kidicious]

Now that I remember, it was Cockney who blamed me for using one verse to claim what the Bible says. Isn't that right? Now you're asking for another Bible verse?

[C0ckney]

i have no idea what you are talking about, but i note your failure to provide textual support for your position which you claim is based on the bible.

i've read the bible (although admittedly not for a long time), unlike you it seems...

[Kidicious]

Hebrews 11:1. You blamed me for using verses from the Bible. It's obvious you are just being an ass so I won't play your game.

[C0ckney]

please provide evidence for your accusation.

Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

please explain how this supports your argument here.

On the contrary, God gives authority to governments to rule as they see fit.

(this should be good)

[molly bloom]

Only God can remove a govt.

Elections seem to work quite well too.


& sex scandals, corruption, bribery, coups, invasions.... or are you saying they're all acts of gawd ?

[Kidicious]

Heb is from the other thread where you were playing your stupid little game. It isn't txt support,as you've been reckognized as an ass who doesnt deserve it.

[C0ckney]

still have no idea what you're talking about, why don't you provide a link to back up your accusations. Jesus wasn't a fan of lies you know...

i'm please that you admit there's no textual support for your claim.

[Proteus_MST]

Even Jesus sat upon an ass and used it to ride to Jerusalem (John 12:14,15)