Study does not show lung damage from marijuana

[C0ckney]

I prefer bongs, and my friends all like blunts, so joints aren't really my area of expertise. Marijuana runs from about 50-400 dollars an ounce, depending on quality, region, and the number of middlemen taking their cut. The cheap stuff is crap, full of seeds and stems, and you'll probably only get 30 decent joints out of an ounce, while the expensive stuff you could get 50 or 60 good sized joints. Different people roll different sized joints, so that's just a ballpark figure.

in places where people use tobacco in their joints the figure would be much higher. in my smoking days i would expect to get at least 80-100 joints out of one ounce. i smoked joints, with the occasional blunt thrown in, mostly because i liked the actual smoking of the joint as well as the feeling from the mj. as you say though, people have different preferences and so the numbers will vary.

[Wezil]

I've never understood the compulsion to water-down a joint by adding tobacco.

If I want a cigarette I'll have a cigarette...

[C0ckney]

i always found 'pure' joints to be too harsh and therefore less enjoyable to smoke.

i suppose it mostly depends on what you get used to smoking. different strokes and all that...

[Proteus_MST]

Well, a comparative study between the USa and the No 1 european country of free marijuana consumption (also calles "The Netherlands")
didn´t show any significant differences in patterns of marijuana consumption in these 2 countries (all in all it even showed, that a lesser percentage of people in the netherlands consumed pot or other drugs)

http://drugwarfacts.org/cms/?q=node/67
http://www1.ucsc.edu/currents/03-04/...rug_study.html

Of course this doesn´t automatically mean, that legalization of pot use within the USA wouldn´t lead to a skyrocketing drug abuse ... after all it might be that there are psychological differences between citizens of the netherlands and the USA and that people in the netherlands just have a more sane approach to drugs compared to people in the USA ...
but if we assume that such psychological/mental differences don´t exist this study indicates, that there won´t be any big long term changes in drug consumption

(however we also have to take into account that the marijuana sale within the netherlands isn´tn totally unregulated ... legally they can only be sold in coffee shops (and also have to be consumed there) and they are also still expensive (partially due to the fact that the possession of large amounts of pot ist still illegal, which means that the drug runners who supply the shop still are at risk of getting asrrested by the police so it isn´t exactly comparable to the situation that Dr. Strangelove depicted [where pot is as cheap and available as normal cigarettes])

[Kidicious]

The crazy christian fundamentalist doesn't know anyone that can function on two joints?

Call me shocked.

Being worth a crap is more than just functioning. I can function sitting on my ass most of the day. That doesn't mean I'm worth a crap.

[Felch]

You just keep throwing softballs, don't you.

[Kidicious]

Come to my place tonight Kid and I'll show you a whole house full of such people.

Why, so I can watch you all do nothing?

"Dude I'm high"

"Dude I'm high"

"Dude I'm high"

[Kidicious]

You just keep throwing softballs, don't you.

I'm just keepin it real stoner.

[Felch]

Why, so I can watch you all do nothing?

"Dude I'm high"

"Dude I'm high"

"Dude I'm high"

Yes, people sit around and do nothing when they're high. That's a good reason to spend $40,000/year per person, keeping them locked up in overcrowded prisons.

[Wezil]

Why, so I can watch you all do nothing?

They're all educated professionals.

You might actually learn something.

[Elok]

Yes, people sit around and do nothing when they're high. That's a good reason to spend $40,000/year per person, keeping them locked up in overcrowded prisons.

It's an experiment in classical conditioning; we know you're already prone to spending days at a time without seeing the sun, eating terrible food and doing nothing in particular. Prison is just an attempt to make you associate that lifestyle with unhappiness.

[Wezil]

Of course I go days at a time without seeing the sun. I live in freaking Canada....

[AAHZ]

It's an experiment in classical conditioning; we know you're already prone to spending days at a time without seeing the sun, eating terrible food and doing nothing in particular. Prison is just an attempt to make you associate that lifestyle with unhappiness.

some even get PAID to swag. Like This One.

[Jon Miller]

Are the usage levels higher on the west coast where pot is sorta socially acceptable compared to the east coast where it is less so?

It is amazing to see the difference, actually, between friends/relatives on the different coasts.

JM

[Jon Miller]

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/20...ds-more-rehab/

A little bit of difference.

Still not 'unreasonable'.

JM

[Kidicious]

They're all educated professionals.

You might actually learn something.

Probably C students in college if they were doping it up as pot makes you a dope.

[Kidicious]

Yes, people sit around and do nothing when they're high. That's a good reason to spend $40,000/year per person, keeping them locked up in overcrowded prisons.

Let me explain something to you. In states where it is illegal to carry pot for personal use first time offenders get to go through rehabilitation. If they fail rehabilitation they need to go to prison. It's the best thing for them, maybe the only thing that will break the addiction and give them a chance for a normal life mkay.

[Felch]

[rah]

Probably C students in college if they were doping it up as pot makes you a dope.

You are so clueless.

[Wezil]

Isn't he?

I would recommend pot smoking for most but Kid would be an exception. It's obvious that with his existing problems he wouldn't be able to deal with it.

I'd pay to be a fly on the wall at his shrink's office just so I could hear the diagnosis. I'm curious to know his condition.

[gribbler]

Let me explain something to you. In states where it is illegal to carry pot for personal use first time offenders get to go through rehabilitation. If they fail rehabilitation they need to go to prison. It's the best thing for them, maybe the only thing that will break the addiction and give them a chance for a normal life mkay.

Yep, because your own life has turned out so well that you are in a position to lecture other people on how they should live theirs without making yourself look like even more of an idiot.

[Kidicious]

Actually habitual drug users are prone to mental illness much moee than those who don't use drugs.

[Wezil]

Your bad luck is it? You hit the odds without the pot?

[gribbler]

Actually habitual drug users are prone to mental illness much moee than those who don't use drugs.

What is the relevance of any data about "illegal drugs" in general to a specific illegal drug, marijuana? Probably not very high. What mental illnesses has marijuana been conclusively shown to increase the likelihood of?

[Kidicious]

Your bad luck is it? You hit the odds without the pot?

If I'm smart enough not to do pot, I'm doin better than you.

[Wezil]

I've heard schizophrenia.

It could be hard to determine however as I'm sure many drug users are self-medicating (i.e. the drug didn't cause the condition).

[Wezil]

If I'm smart enough not to do pot, I'm doin better than you.

I assure you, you are in no way "doing better than me".

[Kidicious]

II'm betting I eat better and get more exercise than you potheads as well. What is crazy?

[Kidicious]

I can list a lot of ways I'm better simply becaude I'm not stupid enough to do pot.

[Wezil]

"Eat better"? Possibly. Money isn't an option but I make lazy food choices. I'd do that with or without the pot.

"Exercise"? Absolutely, Stairs are about it for me.


On the other hand, despite copious amounts of drug use over the years I never once believed in imaginary beings and have thus far avoided any serious mental illness.

I also don't **** giraffes.