*** Ratings Updated ***
And Mobius clings to the lead with his "one active rated game" strategy.Whatever works!

Call to Power -- Play-by-Email Ratings and Rankings
Last Updated: 26-MAY-2001 (updated every Sunday at 23:00 Apolyton Time)
CTP. . APOLYTON HANDLE........ CTP... P.G. P.G.
RANK P NAME................... RATING WIN. LOSS NAT.TR
0001 . KLAIR.................. 23.206 0027 0000 FRA...
0002 . RICK_ELKINS............ 22.487 0023 0010 USA.NY
0003 . MOBIUS................. 22.314 0033 0004 GBR.EN
0004 . SWISSY................. 22.130 0021 0003 USA.IL
0005 . BERXPERT............... 22.010 0044 0003 MEX...
0006 . STAVROS................ 21.162 0081 0033 GER...
0007 P DEVIL.................. 20.927 0005 0002 LAT...
0008 . THEBIRDMAN............. 20.898 0086 0054 DEN...
0009 . BILHQ.................. 20.788 0012 0004 INA...
0010 . MAX_WEBSTER............ 20.624 0016 0011 CAN...
0011 . ZOBOZEWARRIOR.......... 20.611 0018 0006 FRA...
0012 P VITOLG................. 20.476 0004 0003 ISR...
0013 . LUNG................... 20.470 0025 0018 AUS.SW
0014 . QUINNS................. 20.410 0070 0056 USA.CA
0015 . SLAMP.................. 20.398 0023 0010 FRA...
0016 . FRAZE.................. 20.379 0020 0031 GBR...
0017 . NOTUNCOMMON............ 20.358 0018 0011 DEN...
0018 . JPWW................... 20.259 0019 0004 USA.GA
0019 . ST_JON................. 20.242 0051 0049 GBR.EN
0020 P FUZZBALL............... 20.029 0003 0004 AUS...
0021 . NUKE_BOY............... 19.871 0032 0014 USA.FL
0022 . FRANSES................ 19.796 0030 0023 NED...
0023 . KRALJ_MATJAZ........... 19.788 0044 0014 SLO...
0024 . PAUL................... 19.599 0028 0048 NED...
0025 . 420.................... 19.452 0022 0020 USA.IL
0026 . KING_THOR.............. 19.442 0038 0072 USA.FL
0027 . KEYGEN................. 19.217 0018 0018 GRE...
0028 . SADDAM................. 19.032 0014 0008 USA.WI
0029 . KRASH.................. 18.724 0015 0015 GBR.EN
0030 . MAESTRO................ 18.592 0004 0010 BEL...
0031 . ARTHUR................. 18.494 0014 0039 USA.UT
0032 . DUCK_HUNTER............ 18.450 0007 0020 USA.FL
0033 P EOHIAN................. 18.178 0003 0004 USA.CA
0034 . DUGRIK................. 18.043 0009 0012 USA.TX
0035 . SOLVER................. 18.011 0019 0044 LAT...
0036 . PN..................... 17.925 0009 0014 GBR.EN
0037 P BONAPARTE II........... 17.900 0000 0000 USA.NY
0038 . YETI................... 17.757 0013 0015 USA.WI
0039 P ELROND................. 17.750 0000 0000 GER...
0040 . THE_TRUE_DEMOSTHENES... 17.467 0007 0058 GBR.EN
0041 . DARTH_VIPER............ 17.209 0019 0044 NED...
0042 . SYORIS................. 16.898 0004 0006 GBR.EN
0043 . PHOENIXCAGER........... 16.811 0010 0019 SGP...
0044 . CUAICH................. 16.782 0004 0008 CAN.ON
P = Provisional. Player has had less than 10 power graph results.
Frequently Asked Questions
How do I become rated? Simply post, to this thread, the highest level of victory that you ever attained, (Chieftain, Warlord, Prince, King, Emperor, or Deity), in a "single player" game of Call to Power, along with the Nation and Territory that you presently reside. That's it! You'll see your name appear on the above list within a week.
How do the ratings change? See the below CTP Ratings Links section for an in depth discussion.
On whose turn should the Power Graph be reported? It doesn't matter because the Power Graph remains the same during the cycle of the turn. However, we recommend that the 1st player (blue) always report the Power Graph results.
Adjustments to Ratings
New Players to Add:
Pending *9th Turn Processing:
Pending Elimination:
Pending Delinquency Adjustment (- 0.1 points):
Current Rated Games In Progress*:
(Turn rating started in parentheses)
1. R2_Islands(0) - Solver, Fraze, King Thor, Kralj Matjaz, Quinns.
2. Love_Conquers?(50) - St Jon, Mobius, (Keygen), Stavros, Rick Elkins, King Thor.
3. Eagles_at_War(0) - TheBirdMan, Solver, Kralj Matjaz, Notuncommon, Fraze, Krash, Arthur, Quinns.
4. Lung's_Fast(86) - Lung, Stavros, Paul, St Jon, TheBirdMan.
5. Do_Some_PBEM(49) - Solver, TheBirdMan, (Blackice), Paul, Krash, (Stavros).
6. Fixed_Game(30) - King Thor, Stavros, (PN), Keygen, Quinns.
7. Team_Horses(0) - ZoboZeWarrior, Darth Viper, (Blackice), Quinns, Franses, Nuke Boy.
8. Monkey_1(187) - Yeti, (TheBirdMan), Swissy, (Nuke Boy), Slamp, Paul, (Max Webster), (Fraze).
9. Monkey_2(226) - Yeti, (Max Webster), (Germans - A/I), Lung, Paul, (Zaphod), (TheBirdMan).
10. Conquer!!!(23) - Bilhq, TheBirdMan, (SADDAM), Stavros, Paul, King Thor, (Jafo).
11. Giant_Bird(29) - TheBirdMan, (Stavros), Notuncommon, Franses, Darth Viper, (King Thor).
12. Dutcheese(119) - (Fraze), TheBirdMan, Klair, Duck_Hunter, Max_Webster King_Thor, Slamp, St_Jon.
13. Youngbloods(0) - 420, Darth_Viper, Kralj_Matjaz, Phoenixcager, BerXpert, (Blackice).
14. Fly High(29) - TheBirdMan, Notuncommon, Krash, (Fraze), King_Thor, (Arthur), Bilhq.
15. Team Spirit(29) - Stavros, Franses, Keygen, Arthur, Maestro, TheBirdMan, Swissy, King Thor
16. Veterans In Arms(0) - Keygen, TheBirdMan, Paul, Slamp, The_True_Demosthenes, Swissy
17. Young v. Old Blood(0) - Keygen, (Blackice), St_Jon, Yeti, TheBirdMan, 420
18. Youngbloods Gathering(0) - Phoenixcager, (Blackice), 420, BerXpert, Yeti, Saddam
19. Another World(0) - Darth_Viper, Bonaparte_II, 420, Nuke_Boy, Dugrik, Saddam
20. Lungmatch 2.1(66) - Max_Webster, Lung, Arthur
21. Lungmatch 2.2(0) - Keygen, Solver, Swissy
22. Strife(0) - ZoboZeWarrior, PN, Jpww, (Blackice), Nuke_Boy, Cuaich
23. Lungmatch 3.2(8) - The_True_Demosthenes, Mobius, TheBirdMan
24. Swissy2(238) - The_True_Demosthenes, Mobius, Lung, (Moral Hazard)
25. High Voltage(0) - PN, Jpww, (Blackice), Dugrik, BerXpert, Eohian
26. T.N.T.(0) - Fuzzball, Vitolg, DeVil, Nuke Boy, (Blackice), BerXpert
27. Face of Earth(0) - Nukeboy, Solver, Fuzzball, (Aeroprinz) ? (not sure of order)
* A player in parentheses is unrated in that game.
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Related CTP PBEM Ratings Links
TENPL639_AM --- Rankings for Apolyton Call to Power Play-by-Email (PBEM).
TENPL641_AM --- History of Ratings for Apolyton Call to Power PBEM.
TEN619_AM --- *9th Turn Game Results for Apolyton Call to Power PBEM.
RATINGS FORMULAS --- Formulas Used in Determining Ratings Calculations.
PBEM LADDERS thread --- Early Discussions on the Foundation of the CTP PBEM Rating System.
POPULATION GROWTH TABLES --- CTP City Population Growth Tables.
POWER GRAPH INTERPRETED --- Discussions on Call to Power's Power Graph.
COMPANY, BATTALION, BRIGADE, DIVISION... YIKES --- Discussions on the Standarization of the Groupings of Military Units in CTP.
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TENPL639_AM Report Legend:
NAT.TR - Nation and Territory of Primary Residence.
PBEM RATING - Starts with an initial value depending upon the highest CtP AI level ever honestly defeated: Chieftain=14; Warlord=16; Prince=17; King=18; Emperor=19; Deity=21. This rating changes by winning or losing to other rated players, (at the *9 turn mark every ten turns), while playing "rated" PBEM games. See the CtP Multiplayer topic "PBEM Ladders" for details on how this rating change is calculated.
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TEN619_AM Report Concepts:
Win/Loss - A Win counts by having a "higher" Power Graph rating at the ten turn mark during a "rated" game. For example, in a five player game, at the ten turn mark, each player will receive four results - 4 wins and 0 losses, or 3 wins and 1 loss, etc.
Delinquency - 24 or more hours late counts as a delinquency. Each delinquency deducts -0.1 ratings points from player's rating.
Inactivity Adjustment - Players will lose 5/100ths of a ratings point (-0.05) for each month they go without a ratings adjustment, (i.e. remain inactive in the ratings for an entire month).
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Elimination Rule
If, in a rated game, a player:
a) resigns;
b) changes status from "rated" to "unrated";
c) gets annihilated; or
d) gets "next turned" for three turns in a row,
then every remaining player in that game "DEFEATS" THAT PLAYER THREE TIMES (as measured by the normal ten turn phase defeat).
For example, in a 5 player game, the first person who gets "eliminated from the ratings in that game" would be "defeated" 12 times (as measured by the normal power graph 10 turn defeat), (3 multiplied by 4 remaining players.) This equates to an average decrease in ratings of about 2 to 3 points for the eliminated player. The second player eliminated would be defeated 9 times (3 multiplied by 3 remaining players), ... etc.
In the case of resignation or three consecutive "next turns", then that resigned player's civilization will be "next turned" until a replacement player, (either rated or unrated), takes over that civilization's control.
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Alien Life Victory Rule
If a player wins by completing the Alien Project, then that player defeats every remaining player three times.
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Rating Change Table: - (example +2 to -2)
DIFFERENCE.. RATING
IN RATINGS.. CHANGE (+ for winner, - for loser)
+2.0 ........ 0.083
+1.5 ........ 0.118
+1.0 ........ 0.167
+0.5 ........ 0.222
=0.0 ........ 0.250
-0.5 ........ 0.278
-1.0 ........ 0.333
-1.5 ........ 0.382
-2.0 ........ 0.417
*** NOTICE TO ALL GAME STARTERS IN RATED GAMES ***
Please post all of your turn *9 power graph results to the latest CTP Ratings thread (this thread). (I don't look at all of the game threads in progress.)
Also, a reminder that all APPLICATIONS FOR NEW RATED GAMES need to be posted here with:
1. Official game name;
2. Player list (in turn order) of all players' APOLYTON HANDLES (no nick names please). Place players that wish to be "unrated" in parentheses;
3. All desired rated players must have a current rating -- (please state their initial rating if they do not have a current rating).
4. The current turn number;
5. The turn number you want the game to become "rated".
Last edited by quinns; June 4, 2001 at 14:27.

*** Ratings Updated ***
And Mobius clings to the lead with his "one active rated game" strategy.Whatever works!
Anyway, Mobius is right, whatever works. I wonder which game he is only rating himself...
Why the hell does my avatar take so much space up. I think its a bug, because it is .art, as opposed to everyone elses GIF and JPG
Read some of my posts in the previous rating thread. Quinns is missing some games - including one, where Mobius isn't doing well(Lungmatch 3.2). Actually Mobius is playing in 2 (or 3?) rated games....
EDIT: Spell-error (one more).
Edit-edit: With Keygen's follow-up just below, then Mobius is playing in 3 rated games.
Last edited by TheBirdMan; May 27, 2001 at 07:51.

Mobius is playing in two rated games: Love Conquers & Swissy2. Even if he was in one rated game so what? We all know he is one of the best players around.
I play in 4 rated games which are in progress: Fixed Game, Team Spirit, Lungmatch 2.2 & Aint No Fun.
In fixed game I am in the last position for some time and it is the fastest game I play! Every 10 turns I go down cause 3 player above me defeat me.
In Team Spirit I am in the first position among 8 player including two of the players that beat me in Fixed Game. But its progress is so slow (10 turns every 1 or 1 & a half month) that doesn't to much to my ratings.
Lungmatch 2.2? In the 35 turn currently and I am on the second position and it goes very slow too lately.
Aint No Fun? First but haven't reached turn 9 yet.
Bottom line: I go more down and down because I am getting rated in regular basis only in Fixed Game so far.

Same here. I'm last in Lung's Fast which is the only one moving at a decent speed. I'm first in Monkey 2, but it's moving slower and only two other players are rated in that game. And with Yeti's disappearance Lung's the only other rated player left in the game. I'm second in Monkey 1 and doing ok in Conquer and Do Some PBEM, but those are also moving slow.

Hey, I'm up.
Solver, WePlayCiv Co-Administrator
Contact: solver-at-weplayciv-dot-com
I can kill you whenever I please... but not today. - The Cigarette Smoking Man
Solver - And who knows what happens, when Quinns have updated this ratings again with the 7 games he forgot.
Among others one, where TheTrueDemos have beaten both me and Mobius, this would certainly lift Demos some places.
ratings for youngbloods turn 39
1.(Blackice)
2.berXpert
3.Kralj Matjaz
4.420
5.Phoenixcager
6.Darth Viper

Post Deleted... Thanks Birdman, you were right. I screwed up. 7 more rated game results coming.
Last edited by quinns; May 27, 2001 at 21:47.
WHAT!?!!?!!!
I bolt from fourth to first in Lung's FAST! pbem and my ranking goes down!!!![]()
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How the hell do i drop eight places after smacking Jon around the head a billion times?!!Wail! Moan! Whine!! Rant!!!
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Ahh finally, back on top
Literally !![]()
Last edited by Solver; May 28, 2001 at 05:36.

*** Ratings Updated ***
Should be right now. I missed seven games from previous thread, earlier. Nice crybaby whining Lung! And nice diapers on your avator!![]()
The squeeky wheel gets the oil, though. Now the ratings should be correct.![]()
Post removed.
Last edited by Solver; May 29, 2001 at 02:51.

Cool, it looks better now. I still at top 5![]()
But I think it's time to go down, the players who defeat me going to climb really fast.
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Rating for Dutcheese turn 159
1) Klair
2) Slamp
3) Max_Webster
4) King_Thor
5) [Blackice]
6) TheBirdMan
7) [Fraze]
8) St_Jon
Duck_Hunter who was rated left us on turn 153. He was replaced by Blackice

What program are you using to calculate final score ?
Zobo Ze Warrior
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Your brain is your worst enemy!

Hm. Certainly got some spare time today, so here are some little statistics I made, taking the players by their countries, and sum of their ratings.
Ratings by Country
United States of America 268.121
Great Britain 147.508
France 64.175
Netherlands 55.527
Denmark 42.693
Austria 41.256
Canada 41.256
Germany 36.967
Latvia 36.967
Greece 22.010
Belgium 20.379
Slovenia 19.796
Israel 18.011
Inaria 17.209
Mexico 17.209
Singapore 16.811
Well, nothing really interesting here, as ratings of a particular country is very closely bound to the number of players from there. Who would ever doubt that most of you come from USA. Anyway, we can see some great difference between rank 1 and 2, as well as between rank 2 and 3.
Solver, WePlayCiv Co-Administrator
Contact: solver-at-weplayciv-dot-com
I can kill you whenever I please... but not today. - The Cigarette Smoking Man

Interesting Solver. But if we are going to get nationalistic I think it would be fairer to show the "average" rating from each nation.Thanks for the compilation.

Yes, I agree with quinns, divide the by the number of players of each country so the Ratings by Countries make more sense.
BTW how could be the sum of Mexico = 17.209 if there is only one player (me) and my rating is 22.010?
Anyway that's what I call spare time

Sorry berXpert. I just had some sorting problems. OK, I'll also post average scores.
Solver, WePlayCiv Co-Administrator
Contact: solver-at-weplayciv-dot-com
I can kill you whenever I please... but not today. - The Cigarette Smoking Man

Originally posted by Solver
Inaria 17.209Which is that country? A typo maybe?
Yes Solver, an average would be more close to real situation.

OK, here you are then.
Average rating by country
Mexico 22.010
France 21.392
Denmark 21.347
Great Britain 21.073
Inaria 20.788
Australia 20.628
Israel 20.476
Slovenia 19.788
Latvia 19.469
Germany 19.456
Greece 19.217
USA 19.152
Canada 18.703
Belgium 18.592
Netherlands 18.509
Singapore 16.811
Mexico is only represented by one player, and thanks to berXpert's high rating, Mexico is in lead here, followed by France. Let's now see if those automated calculations are correct. I think that Klair contributes to that position of France. If she continues like that, represented-by-one-player Mexico might loose its lead.
Solver, WePlayCiv Co-Administrator
Contact: solver-at-weplayciv-dot-com
I can kill you whenever I please... but not today. - The Cigarette Smoking Man

Oh, these auto calc aren't good..
Solver, WePlayCiv Co-Administrator
Contact: solver-at-weplayciv-dot-com
I can kill you whenever I please... but not today. - The Cigarette Smoking Man

It looks like Inaria should be Indonesia.
Hehehe
We are doing nice, I and my (nearly) neighbor Nutsuncommon (sorry Notuncommon). Hope he soon will be able to play himself again.
Great Danes
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yupi, yupi, yeah, yeah, arriba, ariba, andale andale !!!
I vote for this rating as the official![]()
... just kidding quinns![]()

Stop using these smilies so much. You start to look like AH then. Annoying.
Solver, WePlayCiv Co-Administrator
Contact: solver-at-weplayciv-dot-com
I can kill you whenever I please... but not today. - The Cigarette Smoking Man

OK. I got the point. I finish my games and will start playing soccer again.![]()
Franses (like Ramses).

LC Turn 119 Ratings.
Spanish - Mobius
Greek - Rick Elkins
French - St Jon
Inca - King Thor
Welsh - Keygen
Australians - Stavros
“Quid latine dictum sit, altum videtur”
- Anon
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