College Football 2012 Season

[rah]

You mean when the objective measures aren't doing what you subjectively like them to do .

In additon, what's the point of the polls anymore?

I don't want any part of the selection because I'm not an expert. So who I think is the best is quite immaterial.

The polls just provide a frame of reference but I don't consider them bible or anything.

[H Tower]

Polls are for bragging rights!

[-Jrabbit]

AFAICT, polls are basically there to support banner ads.

There's been plenty written about the particular biases/abuses of both the writers and coaches. I just hope the selection committee has some degree of transparency so we can see those prejudices at work in the selection process.

[Imran Siddiqui]

So if we can see it, what then?

I mean we can basically see the prejudices of the US Supreme Court, but that doesn't particularly change anything .

Furthermore do you know anything about the NCAA Basketball selection committee?

[Ming]

Many of the polls themselves have built in biases... But again, 4 teams is better than 2 picked solely by computer rankings.

[Tupac Shakur]

I'd rather see the champion determined on the field and not by the computers... LIKE ALL THE OTHER SPORTS!

The BCS already made sure the champion was determined on the field.

Many of the polls themselves have built in biases... But again, 4 teams is better than 2 picked solely by computer rankings.

The BCS never picked teams solely by computer rankings.

It's amazing how fed up some people (who I assume don't watch much college football) became with a system they didn't even understand, and how happy they are about a new system that introduces new problems while failing to solve most of the actual (rather than imaginary) problems with the old system.

[Guynemer]

I think this is better than the previous system.

But weighing 700 pounds is better than weighing 800 pounds.

[Tupac Shakur]

I think it will be better than the old system in some years, worse in others. Random chance will determine whether it's better over the long-term or not.

[Ming]

The BCS already made sure the champion was determined on the field.

Tell that to the teams that weren't invited... at least now, more than two teams will get a shot at it.

The BCS never picked teams solely by computer rankings.

I was responding to Imran's line.... "The 2 teams were selected by a formula involving polls and computer rankings. This selection committee apparently doesn't even have to look at that."
So if you want to whine at somebody, whine at him.

It's amazing how fed up some people (who I assume don't watch much college football) became with a system they didn't even understand, and how happy they are about a new system that introduces new problems while failing to solve most of the actual (rather than imaginary) problems with the old system.

They seem to imaginary problems only to you... Thank god, most of the experts, people who do follow the sport, and totally understand how ****ed up the old BCS system was, see this as an improvement and a step in the right direction. While it's nowhere near perfect, it beats the hell out of the old way.... and only fools and idiots support the old system.

[H Tower]

How were we supposed to understand the old BCS system when they changed how they calculated the formula every other year?

[SlowwHand]

I think this is better than the previous system.

But weighing 700 pounds is better than weighing 800 pounds.

Well? It is and it is.

[-Jrabbit]

So if we can see it, what then?

Perhaps I wasn't clear, so I'll repeat it, louder:

SO WE CAN SEE THOSE PREJUDICES AT WORK IN THE SELECTION PROCESS.

Just wanna know, so if the system's being gamed, it's not under cover of darkness.

[Tupac Shakur]

How were we supposed to understand the old BCS system when they changed how they calculated the formula every other year?

You should at least have been able to grasp that it was never just computers picking the teams. It takes Ming-level retardation not to understand that.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Many of the polls themselves have built in biases... But again, 4 teams is better than 2 picked solely by computer rankings.

I was responding to Imran's line.... "The 2 teams were selected by a formula involving polls and computer rankings. This selection committee apparently doesn't even have to look at that."

Your reading comprehension is incredibly abysmal. How in the WORLD does "2 teams were selected by a formula involving POLLS and computer rankings" (emphasis mine) = "2 picked SOLELY by computer rankings" (Emphasis mine again).

If you are going to argue, at least attempt to seem like you are doing it in good faith.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Perhaps I wasn't clear, so I'll repeat it, louder:


Just wanna know, so if the system's being gamed, it's not under cover of darkness.

Why? Who cares if it's not going to matter?

I just don't get why anyone would care that we can see "prejudices" and not be able to do anything about them.

[SlowwHand]

It doesn't matter. This is at least trying. You want to talk abysmal? BCS was abysmal. Last year was the absolute culmination of abysmal.

[H Tower]

Last year was the absolute culmination of abysmal.

Who would have you picked instead?

[-Jrabbit]

Why? Who cares if it's not going to matter?

I just don't get why anyone would care that we can see "prejudices" and not be able to do anything about them.

How many times do I have type "I just want to know" before you realize that's all I'm trying to say?

The fact that you and Drake seems to do half your posting in this thread suggests you are passionate about NCAA football. It seems totally bizarre to me that you're now taking the position of not wanting transparency in whatever process is used to determine the champion.

Either that, or you''re just being reflexively combative for no particular reason.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Drake (I believe) and I have totally been on board (for time immemorial) that we should have a mythical national championship decided by the polls and keeping the old traditional bowl tie ins.

& how was the BCS not transparent - it was analyzed 5 million different ways from Sunday.

[arinmahal]

hi,.....SlowwHand, I am agreed with you.


thanks.

[SlowwHand]

Who would have you picked instead?

I wouldn't have had a rematch between a conference winner and the 2nd place team. After that, what does it matter? I'll say Oregon, just to say someone off the top of my head.

[-Jrabbit]

& how was the BCS not transparent

& where did I say it wasn't? Jeez.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Holy ****! It appears from emails that Penn State administration was prepared to go to child welfare services on the Sandusky issue in 2001, but then one of the admin folks has a discussion with Joe Paterno and the next day it becomes a we need to handle this in house:

http://deadspin.com/5922559/did-joe-...re-authorities

[H Tower]

hi,.....SlowwHand, I am agreed with you.


thanks.

Hello arinmahal, I completely think you are a DL. (not sloww's)

[SlowwHand]

Obviously it's not mine. I wouldn't agree with myself.

[Tupac Shakur]

Drake (I believe) and I have totally been on board (for time immemorial) that we should have a mythical national championship decided by the polls and keeping the old traditional bowl tie ins.

& how was the BCS not transparent - it was analyzed 5 million different ways from Sunday.

[Tupac Shakur]

I wouldn't have had a rematch between a conference winner and the 2nd place team. After that, what does it matter? I'll say Oregon, just to say someone off the top of my head.

So you've already put LSU in a playoff against two teams that it beat in the regular season. Problem solved?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Soooo.... no one cares that JoPa was likely the person who held up Sandusky getting jailed in 2001? I realize the guy is dead, but his statute is still in State College, PA.

[rah]

If he was still alive, this would be a bigger deal. There are even some that think the stress from all of this helped quicken his demise. Let the dead lie.

[Tupac Shakur]

Soooo.... no one cares that JoPa was likely the person who held up Sandusky getting jailed in 2001? I realize the guy is dead, but his statute is still in State College, PA.

I don't want to talk about that story any more. Too depressing.