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    Quote Originally Posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
    What exactly does the canadian senate do? In practice, not theory.

    Provides a check against bad government in the lower house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
    What exactly does the canadian senate do? In practice, not theory.
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    He asked what is does in "practice" NYE.
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    Well, when it actually does something...

    It has also served as a platform for a number of people who have had useful ideas, and Senate changes to legislation are sometimes found to be good ideas and acceptable to governments of the day.
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    I agree, but that is more theory than practice (and perhaps could be more this way if reformed). I think my description is more apt for the current institution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
    Ours?
    no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.


    HC, you don't need unanimous assent to ratify amendments to the US Constitution. Only 3/4ths.
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    That bit means you'd need unanimous consent to change the Senate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
    That bit means you'd need unanimous consent to change the Senate.
    Yeah but we're talking Canada and the Queen business... that's not changing... well I guess it would be changing the government of Canada... Hmm... this monarchy business while being your own country makes no sense.
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    It makes perfect sense.

    We have a functional, stable system of government with fewer politicans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by notyoueither View Post
    It makes perfect sense.

    We have a functional, stable system of government with fewer politicans.
    Yeah but you're you're own country while your head of state is a freaking monarch from another country. Then you got Quebec which Asher tells me is its own nation.

    Sounds more like a mess to me.
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    The monarchy is the least of our problems. It isn't a problem at all. It's a benefit. Fewer politicians = win.
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    How does the monarchy allow fewer politicians? They do nothing.
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    no need for an elected head of state.
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    The position(s) of head of state would need to be replaced. That's 11 more offices for politicians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by notyoueither View Post
    The position(s) of head of state would need to be replaced. That's 11 more offices for politicians.
    What are the Governor Generals then?


    Or you could be like the US and have a President who is both head of state and head of government
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    They are non-political positions and the holders steer well clear of partisan debate. Actually, they generally do not express any political opinion at all.

    They make decisions when called upon by circumstances. When those circumstances arise they have legal advice and the advice of the premier/prime minister.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
    What are the Governor Generals then?


    Or you could be like the US and have a President who is both head of state and head of government
    One of the benefits of having an hereditary monarch instead of an elected President is that we don't have any monarch election controversies such as recounting Florida chads or dead Chicagoans voting.

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    You would let Floridans vote for your monarchs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by notyoueither View Post
    They are non-political positions and the holders steer well clear of partisan debate. Actually, they generally do not express any political opinion at all.

    They make decisions when called upon by circumstances. When those circumstances arise they have legal advice and the advice of the premier/prime minister.
    So our last governor generals blocking of elections, was not politically motivated?

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    She made the decision based on advice. The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court is among her advisors.
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