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    The Difference between the United Kingdom, Great Britain and England





    Ok, ? did we all understand?
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    Are you the only one that had problems with this, Doc? It's very straight-forward.
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    Isn't South Africa part of the British Commonwealth? I thought they re-joined the Commonwealth.
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    Oh wait Commonwealth REALM and British Commonwealth are two different things
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
    Isn't South Africa part of the British Commonwealth? I thought they re-joined the Commonwealth.

    They were expelled and then they took up radical Jacobin ideas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
    Are you the only one that had problems with this, Doc? It's very straight-forward.
    Yes, found it a bit confusing.
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    It's a well understood phenomenon that has beens try to rebrand their image to try to recapture some of the lost glory...
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    It could have stopped at about one minute and forty-five seconds. At that point, the video has covered the basics.


    But I don't understand what part doc found to be confusing. I'm confused about his confusion.
    This is where an awesome Mark Twain quote would be, but Apolyton says it would be too many lines. :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFun View Post
    It could have stopped at about one minute and forty-five seconds. At that point, the video has covered the basics.


    But I don't understand what part doc found to be confusing. I'm confused about his confusion.
    Oh, i'm sure you all understood every part
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
    Oh wait Commonwealth REALM and British Commonwealth are two different things
    Yes. One involves being part of the Commonwealth of Nations, which means nations (including Republics) that partake in the Commonwealth Games and perhaps the occasional photo opportunity between heads of state. It includes, e.g. South Africa (a Republic).

    The second is composed of countries that notionally acknowledge the Queen as their head of state but, in fact, are independent nations that do so on the premise that the Queen is the head of their state, not the head of state of the UK. That's just a happy coincidence. Don't tell me otherwise. LALALALAALA I'M NOT LISTENING.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Docfeelgood View Post
    Oh, i'm sure you all understood every part
    The UK/Great Britain/England part, certainly. I think everybody knows that. It's not complicated. Great Britain is the island itself which includes England, Wales, and Scotland. The United Kingdom is all that plus Northern Ireland. It's why the UK's official name tells the whole story... The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

    Sorry, Doc. Once again, your Texan education system has failed you, buddy. This is 5th grade geography.


    What I actually didn't know (and which was not addressed in the video) is the difference between the British Commonwealth (now known as Commonwealth of Nations), which includes South Africa, India, Pakistan, Kenya, etc. and the Commonwealth Realm which includes Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Jamaica, etc. This whole time, while I was aware Australia, etc. recognized the Queen and India, etc. did not (I actually thought South Africa DID, though, but apartheid should have tipped me off), it never clicked that this distinction mattered and that there are two Commonwealths.

    That's something I don't think many Americans know: that there are two Commonwealths.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
    The UK/Great Britain/England part, certainly. I think everybody knows that. It's not complicated. Great Britain is the island itself which includes England, Wales, and Scotland. The United Kingdom is all that plus Northern Ireland. It's why the UK's official name tells the whole story... The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

    Sorry, Doc. Once again, your Texan education system has failed you, buddy. This is 5th grade geography.


    What I actually didn't know (and which was not addressed in the video) is the difference between the British Commonwealth (now known as Commonwealth of Nations), which includes South Africa, India, Pakistan, Kenya, etc. and the Commonwealth Realm which includes Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Jamaica, etc. This whole time, while I was aware Australia, etc. recognized the Queen and India, etc. did not (I actually thought South Africa DID, though, but apartheid should have tipped me off), it never clicked that this distinction mattered and that there are two Commonwealths.

    That's something I don't think many Americans know: that there are two Commonwealths.
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    come to think of it , I think that was 5th grade. Fuk, lol, that was 1974 for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Docfeelgood View Post
    come to think of it , I think that was 5th grade. Fuk, lol, that was 1974 for me.
    1974 and I was getting prepped to go to Saigon. Ya punk kid.


    I didn't watch the video, but England is a country. I don't need a video, serious or not, to tell me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
    That's something I don't think many Americans know: that there are two Commonwealths.

    It gets better.

    There is talk in the UK of ammending the succession law so that Catholics and first born daughters with younger brothers can take the throne. OK, fine.

    Thing is, the Queen is sort of important for all the other countries for which she is also the Queen. The Brits want the backing of all of them, but especially Canada (for some reason, maybe the largest, the oldest, etc).

    Here's the hitch. It's in our Constitution that 'the Office of the Queen' requires unanimous assent of all provinces as well as Parliament to make changes to. Trick is there is this one province...

    Ohh, boy. This could get good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by notyoueither View Post
    It gets better.

    There is talk in the UK of ammending the succession law so that Catholics and first born daughters with younger brothers can take the throne. OK, fine.

    Thing is, the Queen is sort of important for all the other countries for which she is also the Queen. The Brits want the backing of all of them, but especially Canada (for some reason, maybe the largest, the oldest, etc).

    Here's the hitch. It's in our Constitution that 'the Office of the Queen' requires unanimous assent of all provinces as well as Parliament to make changes to. Trick is there is this one province...

    Ohh, boy. This could get good.

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    And what kind of Constitution requires unanimous assent to change it? That wasn't well-thought out.
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    Only certain things require unanimous provincial agreement. 'The Office of the Queen/King' being one.

    Others require 7 of 10 provinces with 50% of the population.

    Others can be changed by Parliament alone, or a province alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowwHand View Post
    1974 and I was getting prepped to go to Saigon. Ya punk kid.


    I didn't watch the video, but England is a country. I don't need a video, serious or not, to tell me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by notyoueither View Post
    It gets better.

    There is talk in the UK of ammending the succession law so that Catholics and first born daughters with younger brothers can take the throne. OK, fine.
    Why would they let a Catholic be head of the Church of England? That would be like a Muslim Pope.

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    That's a good question. I'd venture a guess that the proponents of change don't feel the position as the head of the Church is that important.
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    I can see it. The person in the position is not nearly as important as the institution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Docfeelgood View Post
    Oh, i'm sure you all understood every part
    Doc, you are low functioning. You shouldn't be surprised that it is quite simple to other people. Then again, I guess you should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaShi View Post
    Doc, you are low functioning. You shouldn't be surprised that it is quite simple to other people. Then again, I guess you should be.
    Do you ever say anything good about people?
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    I just try to be honest.
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    No doubt, Ku Klux Klansmen quite honestly believe they are doing the right thing hanging a black person upside down in tree and painting him white. Not exactly good manners, hanging people in trees and all that. "Trying to be honest" does have its limitations.

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    What were you going to Saigon in 1974 for?

    The US pulled out in 72 or did no-one tell you that?

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    75
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    75? You talking about the Saigon evacuation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braindead View Post
    No doubt, Ku Klux Klansmen quite honestly believe they are doing the right thing hanging a black person upside down in tree and painting him white. Not exactly good manners, hanging people in trees and all that. "Trying to be honest" does have its limitations.
    That's a ridiculous analogy. You should feel ashamed for even thinking you were being clever with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaShi View Post
    That's a ridiculous analogy. You should feel ashamed for even thinking you were being clever with it.
    What you just said is ridiculous.

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