A Game of Thrones - TV Show Discussion Thread

[Lorizael]

We're unable to reassure you on that front, as WWV is (pretty much) a TV-only character.

[Felch]

They did the same thing with lord of the rings. The first movie was spot on other then deleting a few unnecessary scenes (Tom Bombidill, etc...) just to make sure the faithful didn't complain too loudly but the moment it became a successful they totally ****ed up book 2 and 3.

They filmed them at pretty much the same time, and they abandoned some of the more asinine ideas (like Arwen at Helm's Deep).

[Imran Siddiqui]

You needed worry about the horsey/sheepy folks anymore; there will still be a handful of horsey survivors around, but the things you found most bothersome about it (horse this, horse that, horse horse horse) are long gone.

Though, the end of A Dance With Dragons leaves that somewhat open.

[Imran Siddiqui]

I now have the Blu-ray! The extras on this thing look mightly impressive as well!

[Dinner]

I get my Blu-ray version of it today, woot! (I haven't seen it, but read the book ages ago)

They're worth the price. I for one will likely buy it just to get the extras which weren't on the original HBO broadcast. I honestly didn't see the series when it first came out and only noticed it when it came up on my HBO on demand list. Once I had seen the first episode I literally played one after another until I'd worked my way through the entire season.

[OzzyKP]

You needed worry about the horsey/sheepy folks anymore; there will still be a handful of horsey survivors around, but the things you found most bothersome about it (horse this, horse that, horse horse horse) are long gone.

My guess is for season two it'll be dragon this, dragon that, dragon dragon dragon.


But remember to be careful about spoilers all you book people.


When does the new season start?

[Dinner]

Not if it follows the books.

[Guynemer]

I apologize if I spoiled things for you, Ozzy.

By the way, the White Walkers are aliens, and Joffrey shot Mr. Burns, and Jon Snow is the Smoke Monster.

[OzzyKP]

I apologize if I spoiled things for you, Ozzy.

By the way, the White Walkers are aliens, and Joffrey shot Mr. Burns, and Jon Snow is the Smoke Monster.

I quoted you, but my spoiler comment was for everyone. Nothing you said was a spoiler. But good to know about Joffrey.

[Guynemer]

He's also in league with the Observers from Fringe.

[MikeH]

F*CK HBO NOT RELEASING BLU RAYS UNTIL A YEAR AFTER BROADCAST.

[Wezil]

DVD releases are usually one month before a new season starts. I presume it has to do with milking every last cent out of pay per view sales first.

[MikeH]

They are normally about a month after the season finishes (or in the run up to christmas if that is just a bit later). A month before the new season is something I've only ever seen with HBO sets but possibly other companies who's DVDs I don't buy also do it. In which case F*CK THEM too but not as much 'cause I don't really care

[Wezil]

I know lots of non-HBO shows that do it as well.

Dexter and Breaking Bad (Showtime and AMC) off the top off my head.

[MikeH]

This is why it's retarded (via Asher on Google+)

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/game_of_thrones

[Dinner]

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[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

That's one hell of an echo.

[Wezil]

This is why it's retarded (via Asher on Google+)

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/game_of_thrones

It would be frustrating. I watch on "illegal" downloads when it airs then buy the DVD when they finally get around to releasing it. I have no devil on my shoulder (guilt free).

[Dinner]

That's one hell of an echo.

Sorry, did you notice that too some where in the 8 previous pages?

[Felch]

Did you not notice it? Lori was the last one to point it out, in post 683.

[Imran Siddiqui]

This is why it's retarded (via Asher on Google+)

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/game_of_thrones

That's "nice". Some people do enjoy turning to piracy, but I wonder if they'll be pleased if enough people do it so HBO doesn't have the funds to make shows like this in the future? GoT is VERY expensive from all reports. HBO gets no money from cable fees. The vast majority of their money comes from subscriber fees. They make some on DVD and Blu-ray sales but not nearly enough to fund their shows since they don't get cable fees. In order to afford high quality productions they need to get as many subscriber fees as possible. That means delaying the DVDs.

HBO (and Showtime) are in a different league than other cable programing (that and their shows cost far more than other cable programming). But, if you'd like to accelerate the day when HBO just can't afford to make shows like this anymore, go ahead...

[Wezil]

It's a marketing model at odds with technology.

[Wezil]

HBO gets no money from cable fees. The vast majority of their money comes from subscriber fees. They make some on DVD and Blu-ray sales but not nearly enough to fund their shows since they don't get cable fees.

It's marketed differently here.

HBO (and other "premium" channels) are sold as add-ons to a cable package. i.e. You don't subscribe to them individually. The money the Cdn companies pay to HBO is probably lump sum rather than per individual subscriber.

That said, to get HBO I need to subscribe to a cable package of 100 plus channels costing over $100 a month. I watch about 2-3 hours of "television" per week. Just a wee bit of overkill, no?

I'm sorry HBO needs subscriber fees but the best they will get out of me is the DVD purchase and because they won't release the DVD for a year after airing I will continue to enjoy my advance screenings.

[Felch]

It's a marketing model at odds with technology.

This. If HBO can't figure out how to monetize their products, that's their problem. If they spun off HBO Go into a Netflix style subscription service they'd probably do just fine. I know plenty of people who'd be cool with paying ten bucks a month to watch the best shows on television, but don't want to shell out a $100/month for a thousand channels they'll never watch. It's not 1980 anymore, and HBO needs to come to grips with that.

[DaShi]

Not just HBO, but a host of other cable companies. The problem is that I don't want to spend $10/month to watch GoT on HBO, another $10 to watch Homeland on Showtime, another $10 to watch Breaking Bad on AMC, etc. And only to be able to watch them at certain times of the year. Free the television market!

[Dinner]

I still wonder if Syrio Forel might still be alive and maybe Arya will run into him in Braavos. I mean it's implied that he was killed but they never actually say and meeting her old master could snap Arya out of her current training and make her go back to Westeros.

[bluray movies]

I love watching TV, is here any one who love The Big Bang Theory? I am hunk on it now.

[Dinner]

"Hunk on it"? Seriously?

Besides, I've been boycotting Canadian TV shows since they cancelled Stargate SG-1.

[Imran Siddiqui]

This. If HBO can't figure out how to monetize their products, that's their problem.

And ours if we want such high quality, massive expensive to produce television shows. There is a reason broadcast TV has gone so far into Reality TV - its insanely cheap to produce and people watch it. Why spend lots of money for expensive serialized dramas that have big risks as to whether they'll find an audience (I realize it seems obvious now in hindsight, but HBO was concerned that not that many people were going to watch a "fantasy" series, and I'm sure they are concerned again for the upcoming season as the fantasy aspects get ratcheted up 3 notches). I understand the whole "I should get what I want, when I want, for free" drive, but that gets you no where with nothing.

[Wezil]

I don't think the sky is falling for HBO. I checked their numbers last night and they seem pretty damn healthy.