A Game of Thrones - TV Show Discussion Thread

[Lord Avalon]

So, what, you'd give him life in some country club prison? A mental hospital? They don't exist. Dungeons are cold, dark and dank, and you get gnawed on by rats - except in the Eyrie, where it's cold and windy, and you might roll over in your sleep and fall to your death.

Or would you send him back to the Wall, closer to the Others? He's so afraid, he'd just run away again. Beheading is probably the kindest thing. It's over quick, and he doesn't have to live with his fear and shame.

[Kuciwalker]

Oh come on Berz. No, execution as punishment for desertion isn't really compatible with modern sensibilities, but this is a medieval society and in context it's perfectly reasonable.

[Asher]

Even in WW2, soldiers were executed for desertion. Even on the allies.

[Bosh]

Well berz is right in that there's an obvious parallel there.

[Berzerker]

So, what, you'd give him life in some country club prison? A mental hospital? They don't exist. Dungeons are cold, dark and dank, and you get gnawed on by rats - except in the Eyrie, where it's cold and windy, and you might roll over in your sleep and fall to your death.

Or would you send him back to the Wall, closer to the Others? He's so afraid, he'd just run away again. Beheading is probably the kindest thing. It's over quick, and he doesn't have to live with his fear and shame.

I never would have put him in prison for "poaching", much less make him guard a wall or behead him for running from the monsters.

Oh come on Berz. No, execution as punishment for desertion isn't really compatible with modern sensibilities, but this is a medieval society and in context it's perfectly reasonable.

We're talking about guilt and innocence, not medieval "morals" or moral relativity. The guy didn't deserve to lose his head...

Well berz is right in that there's an obvious parallel there.

Thank you

[a.kitman]

berz you have to remeber that the monsters have been sleeping for thousands of years so people dont seem to belive in them any more.

[Bosh]

One of the big themes in the series is classism but the author is a good enough writer to write characters compelling enough that we generally see things from their point of view and the bulk of them are upper class. For a few examples when Lady dies there was much sadness but nobody gives a crap about Mycah even with Arya continually bringing him up and Ned doesn't bat an eye at starting a war which'll kill lots and lots of peasants because HONOR, but if his daughters lives are on the line... The whole Westerosi society is deeply, sickeningly unfair to anyone who's not in the nobility and only a small percentage of the characters really questions this whole structure, which make sense since few people really question their own society on a fundamental level, but often the readers start buying into it as well.

[EPW]

It's the opposite of the LOTR's ideal medieval society. I'm not sure which I like reading more though, they both have their merits.

[Lord Avalon]

I never would have put him in prison for "poaching", much less make him guard a wall or behead him for running from the monsters.

Well, who's going to man the Wall, then? Who's going to protect the realm from the Wildlings and the Others? There are very few volunteers, and even with the criminals who do get sent, the Watch still doesn't have enough people.

And if there's no penalty for desertion, many might not stay up there. And when they come south, what are they going to do? Turn to banditry, probably.

[Heraclitus]

One of the big themes in the series is classism but the author is a good enough writer to write characters compelling enough that we generally see things from their point of view and the bulk of them are upper class. For a few examples when Lady dies there was much sadness but nobody gives a crap about Mycah even with Arya continually bringing him up and Ned doesn't bat an eye at starting a war which'll kill lots and lots of peasants because HONOR, but if his daughters lives are on the line... The whole Westerosi society is deeply, sickeningly unfair to anyone who's not in the nobility and only a small percentage of the characters really questions this whole structure, which make sense since few people really question their own society on a fundamental level, but often the readers start buying into it as well.

I find it funny that in the real world many where more upset at the direwolf's death than at the boys. Have you heard of the response of animal rights groups to the scene?

[Heraclitus]

I find it odd that so many people (not necessarily here) like the protrayal of Daenerys by the actress.


This is literally the only expression she has:


The now dead Khal Drogo was better when he had speaking scenes.

[Cort Haus]

The now dead Khal Drogo was better when he had speaking scenes.

Except that we don't at this point exactly know whether he is dead or not. If, however you are confirming the death then you are a ****.

[Krill]

Tyrion got pwned in the drinking game...

[OzzyKP]

Game of Thrones' Sean Bean Stabbed in Bar Brawl

Turns out, Sean Bean's hero image is the real deal.

The Game of Thrones and Lord of the Rings tough guy reportedly came to the aid of his famous glamour model companion after a fellow pub reveler made some untoward comments on her topless posing past. While Bean's white knighthood was obviously admirable, it also proved rather dangerous, as a melee ensued and the actor was ultimately stabbed outside the London pub.

So what, exactly, happened? And just how is Bean doing now?

According to the Daily Mail, the incident kicked off when the 52-year-old Bean and 22-year-old Playboy bunny April Summers (real name Nadia Foster) went outside Camden's Hill Bar and Brasserie to smoke. A passerby spotted the duo (or at least one half of the duo) and began making lewd comments, leading Bean to confront the big talker.

All was seemingly well until the stranger returned later on, at which point a scuffle broke out, and Bean was reportedly punched in the face, causing a bruise over his eye, and stabbed in the arm with broken glass. Despite his wounds, Bean refused any medical attention and opted not to go to a hospital.

Instead, the actor accepted a first aid kit from the bar staff, then ordered another drink.

Guess all those tough guy roles haven't been too much of a stretch, after all.

Read more: http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b247126_game_of_thrones_sean_bean_stabbed_in.html# ixzz1PHTmrjSd

Don't **** with Ned.

[Lord Avalon]

Don't **** with Ned.

Not unless you've bought the gold cloaks first.

[Cort Haus]

the incident kicked off when the 52-year-old Bean and 22-year-old Playboy bunny April Summers (real name Nadia Foster) went outside Camden's Hill Bar and Brasserie to smoke. A passerby spotted the duo (or at least one half of the duo) and began making lewd comments, leading Bean to confront the big talker.

I used to drink in that pub sometimes when I lived around there. It's actually very close to a major hospital.

What if his battle-'scratch' goes bad though? Will he suffer the fate of the Chief Horse-Fetishist?

[Flubber]

I haven't read the thread but I picked up these books and had just started on the first when i was told of the series. My tv provider has them on video on demand for free so over the last two days I whipped through the first 5 episodes and then started reading feverishly to catch up

Spoiler:

The differences can be intriguing sometimes-- Spoiler alert spolier alert but from a very early episode--- The Khal has a very brief consummation scene with his young bride on TV where some of the elements of the book do not appear-- The book stresses the Khals tenderness and patience and the way he simply carressed his young bride for an extended period until she was a more than willing participant. In the show he just seems like a bit of a brute

OH well-- I'll be back to read the thread in a week when I finish the book and show and can actually join the discussion

[OzzyKP]

There is another thread to discuss the book. Please don't post spoilers here.

If you post spoilers about the TV show (and only the TV show) then use the spoiler tags. Thanks

The book thread:
http://apolyton.net/showthread.php/1...cussion-thread

[Imran Siddiqui]

Wouldn't book discussion necessarily be spoilers about the TV show?

[VetLegion]

I find it odd that so many people (not necessarily here) like the protrayal of Daenerys by the actress.


This is literally the only expression she has:


The now dead Khal Drogo was better when he had speaking scenes.

You just dislike her because she doesn't have a manjaw

[rah]

I have to agree that her range of expressions seems a bit limited. But we'll give her a little more time since that might have been her "Geeze I'm naked here look"

[a.kitman]

she wasnt like that in the books? i thought she was stiff like that to then grow. hade a few scenes where she hade her claws out, nothing amazing tho.

[-Jrabbit]

She has developed the defiant "I'm an your damn Callista" look as well. Broke it out a couple times this week...

[MOBIUS]

Dude, it's 'Khaleesi'. WTF is this Callista ****!? It would take you like 2 seconds on google to get the right spelling...

[Supr49er]

I have to agree that her range of expressions seems a bit limited. But we'll give her a little more time since that might have been her "Geeze I'm naked here look"

Cersei is worse with her "sucking a lemon" face with one upraised eyebrow.

[-Jrabbit]

Dude, it's 'Khaleesi'. WTF is this Callista ****!? It would take you like 2 seconds on google to get the right spelling...

Thanks for your correction. I was rushed and, frankly, don't care that much.
After all, you knew what I meant so: communication successful.
Your annoyance: a small bonus.

[VetLegion]

Cersei is worse with her "sucking a lemon" face with one upraised eyebrow.

Cersei is superhot I'd hit it

[a.kitman]

Cersei is worse with her "sucking a lemon" face with one upraised eyebrow.

i couldnt disagree more. cersei is awsome. bean is beeing a moron tho.

[Koyaanisqatsi]

It looks like several of the actors have been trying to convey a lot of the extra inflection from the books in very subtle facial expressions...Sansa and Littlefinger are both the same way. Early in the season I would have agreed about Cersei, but I think the actress has been getting a bit more emotive lately and it's working better. (Sansa did great at the end of the last episode too, Littlefinger is still missing the mark but has enough dialog to make up for it.)

[a.kitman]

Littlefinger is still missing the mark

iam sorry but your ****ing stupied.