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    sounds like a great show
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cort Haus View Post
    Everyone has English accents.



    How am I supposed to know who the bad guys are?

    yes, very hard to understand with that guttural, nasal accent.
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    Nice one, Cort.

    I'm interested, but not sold. I've never read the books. It's the first episode, with lots of intoductions, so I'll cut it some slack. It's also HBO, which allows me to cut some more slack and also roll my eyes a bit at the gratuitous T&A (T&A is nice, don't get me wrong, but there's ways of doing it right and ways of doing it just so you can do it, 'cause you're HBO, b*tches!). The marriage consumation scene was effing disturbing.

    The cast seems pretty good. The guy who plays the boy who would be King was excellent at making me hate him. The guy playing the Queen's brotherlover was also very good. Sean Bean was, as usual, solid. His tomboy daughter looks like she could become a fun character. Lecherdwarf should be fun too.

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    Agreed with you on the characters. I should also note that I found the elder daughter of Sean Bean to be positively insufferable and in dire need of a good smack from mom.
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    Yes, which as I gather (I did some reading up on the series after I saw the episode) is another example of the acress nailing her part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guynemer View Post
    Agreed with you on the characters. I should also note that I found the elder daughter of Sean Bean to be positively insufferable and in dire need of a good smack from mom.
    I'd let the dwarf do it.
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    If I didn't know any better, I'd say you have a dwarf fixation, Wezil...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guynemer View Post
    Agreed with you on the characters. I should also note that I found the elder daughter of Sean Bean to be positively insufferable and in dire need of a good smack from mom.
    Indeed, that is the point.
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    Well I recorded it last night and we'll see. It's been so long since I read the first book (about 15 years), we'll see if I remember anything at all.
    But at least I have a vague recollection of there being a set of twins and a dwarf so maybe it will jog my memory.
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    HBO just officially announced that they're going ahead with book 2 next year.
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    never heard of it, but I'll give it a look

    I assume this is some medieval english drama loosely based on the royal families?

    its on tonight

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    The author was born in Jersey, and not really loosely based on anything.
    The OT at APOLYTON is like watching the Special Olympics. Certain people try so hard to debate despite their handicaps.
    Baron O RIP.

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    I thought it was pretty much a given that it was at least loosely based on the War of the Roses. It's definitely got a medieval English wrangling-for-power vibe to it. Add in some sorcery, mythical creatures and swarthy easterners and there ya go!

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    It is very loosely based on the Wars of the Roses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrian View Post
    I thought it was pretty much a given that it was at least loosely based on the War of the Roses. It's definitely got a medieval English wrangling-for-power vibe to it. Add in some sorcery, mythical creatures and swarthy easterners and there ya go!

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    *******.

    The Lannisters are the Lancasters. The Starks are the Yorks.
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    While I kind of agree, you could say that about any country during those times. Wrangling-for-power isn't specific to anybody.
    The OT at APOLYTON is like watching the Special Olympics. Certain people try so hard to debate despite their handicaps.
    Baron O RIP.

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    Did the war of the roses have twins and dwarfs.
    The OT at APOLYTON is like watching the Special Olympics. Certain people try so hard to debate despite their handicaps.
    Baron O RIP.

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    Sure, rah, but the flavor is English (the tons of English actors & accents help w/that ). Not that that's a bad thing. I don't mind that at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rah View Post
    Did the war of the roses have twins and dwarfs.
    Bugs in 3... 2... 1...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrian View Post
    Sure, rah, but the flavor is English (the tons of English actors & accents help w/that ). Not that that's a bad thing. I don't mind that at all.

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    I haven't see it yet. And when you read the books.... I didn't make that connection when I first read them. All I thought was 'typical medieval setting'.
    The OT at APOLYTON is like watching the Special Olympics. Certain people try so hard to debate despite their handicaps.
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    Perhaps you're right. Or perhaps what you think of as "typical medieval setting" is, well, English. It is for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrian View Post
    Sure, rah, but the flavor is English (the tons of English actors & accents help w/that ). Not that that's a bad thing. I don't mind that at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rah View Post
    I haven't see it yet. And when you read the books.... I didn't make that connection when I first read them. All I thought was 'typical medieval setting'.
    but are there not dragons and demons?
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    I thought it was great.

    In 1 hour we had

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guynemer View Post
    I've never read the books, or even heard anything about them before, so I admit to being a wee bit confused by all the characters and backstory they tried to stuff into the show. So, please correct me if I am wrong, but...

    Was that the queen and her brother ****ing doggy-style at the end, or did I take too much allergy medication?
    Yes I know. In the book the Queen was on top I think.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guynemer View Post
    Delightful! And the roguish dwarf brother serves as their fluffer?
    Anyone else here found the imp's whores awesome? I hope they keep them as hot through the series.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arrian View Post
    Nice one, Cort.

    I'm interested, but not sold. I've never read the books. It's the first episode, with lots of intoductions, so I'll cut it some slack. It's also HBO, which allows me to cut some more slack and also roll my eyes a bit at the gratuitous T&A (T&A is nice, don't get me wrong, but there's ways of doing it right and ways of doing it just so you can do it, 'cause you're HBO, b*tches!). The marriage consumation scene was effing disturbing.
    They've actually toned it down from the book. For example in the book the scene with Eddard in the bed where the monk guy comes in, Catlyn is naked and aching from ... guess.
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    Note to people who haven't read the books: Lecherdwarf (Tyrion) and tomboy Stark daughter (Arya) are probably the two most popular characters among readers of the books, the fact that they both have actors that seem like they can carry the parts is cause for much rejoicing. They both have miles of awesome and heartache in store for them...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wezil View Post
    I'd let the dwarf do it.
    Stuff like this is so freaking hilarious when you know what will happen to those two characters.


    The author was born in Jersey, and not really loosely based on anything.
    Vaguely inspired by The War of the Roses. Vaguely. Each family (of Starks and Lannisters is a big like either the Yorks or the Lancasters (Lannister even sounds a bit like Lancaster...)
    Robert = Edward IV etc.
    An exceedingly awesome character = Warwick.

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeH View Post
    I thought it was great.

    In 1 hour we had
    Amazing.
    That's a slow start compared with what happens in some of the latter episodes Keep on watching

    Yes I know. In the book the Queen was on top I think.
    They were both standing up, her backed against a wall.
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    Is it pretty true to the books?

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    Very much so. They condensed a lot of stuff (future episodes should be less condensed) and simplified a bit here and there and a few little bits were added but the main differences is that the Others/White Walkers were more badass/creepy in the book (they cut the ****ing sword fight!) and the marriage scene was less rapey...

    Also Joffrey (crown price kid) and Theon (the no name guy who wanted to kill the wolves) got their bits in this part of the story cut out. In the book Theon kicks the rolling head and smirks. He's a piece of work...
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