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    Windows 8

    Will be very different.

    Had a meeting last week with MS, but unfortunately had to sign an NDA. But I can share what's already been leaked publicly.

    1) It will run on both ARM & x86
    2) There are two UIs to choose from, which are radically different: "Immersive" (tablet/touch UI which is similar to the 'Metro' UI on Windows Phone), and a Windows 7-based UI
    3) There will be an "app store", but it is not mandatory.
    4) Windows 8 binaries can be in a new package. Not an ".exe", but an ".appx" file. These are single files which are containers for all necessary program files, and they are .NET. This means a single "appx" app will run on both ARM & x86 Windows installs, and tablet/desktop installs
    5) The Explorer UI is Ribbonized. Not sure if I like it.

    More to come.
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    Will it be *nix based?

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    No.

    WinNT 7.0 (2000 = 5.0, XP = 5.1, Vista = 6.0, 7 = 6.1)
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    Eh.

    Not so interested.

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    Unix based is not necessarily a good thing. The NT kernel is widely accepted as the most modern and well-designed OS kernel out there.

    Linux/BSD/Unix are all older designs.

    Linux & Unix tend to be monolithic (large & unwieldy, which is why you need to recompile it so much...). Many BSD versions are microkernels as well (like Mach, used by OS X) but very early versions.

    Basically: Linux is monolithic, Mach/OS X is a microkernel, and NT is a hybrid.

    Linux's core design is oldest, Mach 2nd oldest, NT newest. NT was designed by taking the best traits of monolithic with the best traits of microkernels.
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    Mach in general is truly awful in a lot of ways. Apple gets around it by having strict control over developer practices on their platforms.

    But if you use lots of threads, Mach grinds to a halt. There are lots of real-world performance problems that have not yet been fully solved.
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    Is there any truth the Q4 release rumor?
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    No.

    MAYBE a beta by then, but I'd doubt it.
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    Will there be any backwards compatibility issues? Any major burned bridges?
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    Nope. It still supports legacy 32/64bit Win32/MFC.
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    This is funny as ****. I'm no computer guru by any means, but so many jumping at 7, and BAM, next breath, let's jump on 8. This is why business moves conservatively.
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    Windows 8 probably won't be out til late 2012. That's over 3 years after Windows 7 came out. Windows 7 will remain supported probably for another 10 years.

    Why's it funny?

    New cars come out every year...
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    But you don't have to get a new car every time they make a new model.
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    You don't need to upgrade to Windows 8 either. As I said, it'll be supported for many years.

    Windows 7 is just now passing the Windows XP marketshare number. XP is 10 years old.
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    Windows 8 probably won't be out til late 2012. That's over 3 years after Windows 7 came out. Windows 7 will remain supported probably for another 10 years.

    Why's it funny?

    New cars come out every year...
    Sloww is still using XP by choice and thinks it is a smart decision.
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    Because it has been. I could have gone to Vista, like so many of you jumped for in such a smart decision.
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    I liked Vista a lot more than XP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asher View Post
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    I liked Vista a lot more than XP.
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    XP was good, and it's nostalgic considering I used it for 10 years, but I could never go back to it after using Windows 7.

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    Will it be called windows 8

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    Thumbs down

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    other than that I will most likely be going from Vista to 8... jumping seven, and I am an old curmudgeon who liked Win 2000, let alone XP "better" as it did what I needed it to do... learning new UI which does nothing better ... have better things to do with my time, but I guess it is not by choice... let's hope that customization will be an option like in office 10...
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    I liked 2000 and really didn't want to upgrade to XP.

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    http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...apdragon-chips

    CHIP DESIGNER Qualcomm has announced a partnership with Microsoft to provide Snapdragon mobile processors and Gobi mobile internet connectivity services in the first batch of Windows 8 PCs.


    I bet Intel is feeling all warm and fuzzy inside...
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    To be honest I have the same view towards linux and mac.

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