Baptists force rape victim to apologize to congregation for being pregnant

[Asher]

What would Ben do? This.

http://www.truecrimereport.com/2010/06/what_wouldnt_jesus_do_4.php

What Wouldn't Jesus Do?: Tina Anderson, 15, Punished by Baptists for Being Raped

Speaking of religious leaders who turn a blind eye to rape -- we now bring you to the tale of the Trinity Baptist Church in Concord, New Hampshire.

This story begins in 1997, when 15-year-old Tina Anderson was brutally raped by a fellow churchgoer named Ernest Willis.

However, when Anderson reported the incident to pastor -- it wasn't Willis who was punished, but Anderson, because she became pregnant by her attacker.

Anderson was forced by her pastor, Chuck Phelps, to stand in front of the congregation of Trinity Baptist Church and apologize for becoming pregnant before Phelps and her mother had her shipped off to Colorado, where she was forced to live with another pastor and give up her child for adoption.

Concord police said they were never able to formally press charges against Willis in 1997 because the victim had disappeared and neither Phelps or her mother or any fellow congregants would tell them of her whereabouts.

It wasn't until this year, thanks to a series of online posts left by friends, that Anderson, now 28, was finally found living in Arizona and her case was reopened.

As soon as Anderson came forward earlier this month, 51-year-old Willis was finally arrested on rape charges.

But despite Anderson's story of being forced into hiding by Phelps, the former pastor has denied any wrongdoing, claiming that it was the police who dropped the ball on their investigation and never once tried to contact him about Anderson's new residence.

Authorities in Concord are currently investigating Phelps' involvement, but have yet to charge him with any crime.

Other awesome behaviour Ben would love:

You may have heard of Jeff Owens before.

As the head pastor for the Shenandoah Baptist Church in West Virginia, Owens recently made headlines when a YouTube video of one his sermons surfaced in which he says, "we need to stop burning flags and start burning fags. We need a hunt-a-homo week. We need to take 'em all out and shoot 'em with a scatter shotgun."

Needless to say, Owens' less than Christian remarks earned him a ton of backlash, and he even issued an apology for his vitriol.

But what most people don't know about Owens, is that, while he was spewing such hateful statements about homosexuals and publishing books like "Character Lessons for Children," his own son was busy sexually assaulting his teenage congregants.

Jeremiah Owens had his first run-in with the law in 2004, when he was arrested for raping a 14-year-old girl at the school where he worked as a janitor.

Though those charges were later dropped due to a lack of evidence, Owens found himself in trouble yet again in 2008.

This time, Owens, who was 22-years-old at the time, was accused of sexually assaulting two different girls, ages 13 and 15, who attended his father's church.

Owens plead guilty in both cases.

Maybe daddy Owens would have done better to leave the gays alone and tend to the sexual shortcomings of his own child, first.

When women showed up at the King James Baptist Church's food bank in Gastonia, North Carolina, they weren't really in search of the sort of hand-outs that the church's 73-year-old pastor, Harley Michael Keough, had in mind for them.

But that's just what they got.

Last week, six different women took the stand and testified that upon arriving at the church's food bank, they were greeted by an overly friendly Keough who would lead them into the food bank's storage room, and then promptly molest them.

One woman said she tried pushing away the pastor after he began groping her. Another said that after being fondled by the preacher, she didn't cry or scream, but simply left the building.

Keough was arrested last November after one woman came forward and filed a complaint. That's when five others also came forward and said he did the same to them. When asked why they hadn't reported the assaults earlier, one woman said "I didn't think anyone would believe me over a preacher."

Keough tried to defend his sexual advances claiming that he was simply "loving" and ran a "loving church."

Last Tuesday, Keough, who was originally charged with 10 counts of sexual battery, was found guilty on two counts of sexual battery. He received a 60-day suspended jail sentence and 18 months probation.

[duke o' york]

Non-Christians commit crimes too, therefore..... (crap, there isn't an argument here is there?)

[Ben Kenobi]

Sadly, I'm not a baptist, never was, and never will be.

Is there an image for the FailTroll?

[Asher]

Not sure you're aware of this, Ben, but Baptists are Christians.

[DaShi]

Yeah, this Baptist stuff is tame compared to the Catholic Church. Ben barely got hard reading that.

[Ben Kenobi]

And?

Your point? I'm not a baptist for a reason. I disagree with some of the things they do.

[Asher]

Ben is requesting I talk about the failures of Catholicism more. Is there any easier task?

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/31/nyregion/31gay.html

Prospective Catholic Priests Face Sexuality Hurdles
By PAUL VITELLO
Every job interview has its awkward moments, but in recent years, the standard interview for men seeking a life in the Roman Catholic priesthood has made the awkward moment a requirement.

“When was the last time you had sex?” all candidates for the seminary are asked. (The preferred answer: not for three years or more.)

“What kind of sexual experiences have you had?” is another common question. “Do you like pornography?”

Depending on the replies, and the results of standardized psychological tests, the interview may proceed into deeper waters: “Do you like children?” and “Do you like children more than you like people your own age?”

It is part of a soul-baring obstacle course prospective seminarians are forced to run in the aftermath of a sexual abuse crisis that church leaders have decided to confront, in part, by scrubbing their academies of potential molesters, according to church officials and psychologists who screen candidates in New York and the rest of the country.

But many of the questions are also aimed at another, equally sensitive mission: deciding whether gay applicants should be denied admission under complex recent guidelines from the Vatican that do not explicitly bar all gay candidates but would exclude most of them, even some who are celibate.

Scientific studies have found no link between sexual orientation and abuse, and the church is careful to describe its two initiatives as more or less separate. One top adviser to American seminaries characterized them as “two circles that might overlap here and there.”

Still, since the abuse crisis erupted in 2002, curtailing the entry of gay men into the priesthood has become one the church’s highest priorities. And that task has fallen to seminary directors and a cadre of psychologists who say that culling candidates has become an arduous process of testing, interviewing and making decisions — based on social science, church dogma and gut instinct.

“The best way I can put it, it’s not black and white,” said the adviser, the Rev. David Toups, the director of the secretariat of clergy, consecrated life and vocations of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops. “It’s more like one of those things where it’s hard to define, but ‘I know it when I see it.’ ”

Many church officials have been reluctant to discuss the screening process, and its details differ from diocese to diocese. In the densely populated Diocese of Brooklyn, officials are confident of their results in one respect.

“We have no gay men in our seminary at this time,” said Dr. Robert Palumbo, a psychologist who has screened seminary candidates at the diocese’s Cathedral Seminary Residence in Douglaston, Queens, for 10 years. “I’m pretty sure of it.” Whether that reflects rigorous vetting or the reluctance of gay men to apply, he could not say. “I’m just reporting what is,” he said.

Concern over gay men in the priesthood has simmered in the church for centuries, and has been heightened in recent years by claims from some Catholic scholars that 25 percent to 50 percent of priests in the United States are gay. The church has never conducted its own survey, but other experts have estimated the number to be far smaller.

The sexual abuse scandal has prompted some conservative bishops to lay blame for the crisis on a “homosexual subculture” in the priesthood. While no one has proposed expelling gay priests, the crisis has pitted those traditionalists against other Catholics who attribute the problem to priests, gay and straight, with dysfunctional personalities.

In 2005, the Vatican sidestepped that ideological debate, but seemed to appease conservatives by issuing guidelines that would strictly limit the admission of gay men to Catholic seminaries.

The guidelines, which bolstered existing rules that had been widely unenforced, defined homosexuality in both clear-cut and ambiguous ways: Men who actively “practice homosexuality” should be barred. But seminary rectors were left to discern the meaning of less obvious instructions to reject candidates who “show profoundly deep-rooted homosexual tendencies, or support the so-called gay culture.”

Though some Catholics saw room in that language for admitting celibate gay men, the Vatican followed up in 2008 with a clarification. “It is not enough to be sure that he is capable of abstaining from genital activity,” ruled the Vatican’s Congregation for Catholic Education, which issued the initial guidelines. “It is also necessary to evaluate his sexual orientation.”

Some seminary directors were baffled by the word “orientation,” said Thomas G. Plante, a psychologist and the director of the Spirituality and Health Institute at Santa Clara University, who screens seminary candidates for several dioceses in California and nationwide.

Could a psychologically mature gay person, committed to celibacy, never become a priest? Dr. Plante said several admissions officers asked. Could the church afford to turn away good candidates in the midst of a critical priest shortage?

The Vatican permits every bishop and leader of a religious order to make those decisions, which vary from stricter to more liberal interpretations of the rules. But the methods of reaching them have become increasingly standard, experts say.

Msgr. Stephen Rossetti, a psychologist at Catholic University who has screened seminarians and once headed a treatment center for abusive priests, said the screening could be “very intrusive.” But he added, “We are looking for two basic qualities: the absence of pathology and the presence of health.”

To that end, most candidates are likely to be asked not only about past sexual activities but also about masturbation fantasies, consumption of alcohol, relationships with parents and the causes of romantic breakups. All must take H.I.V. tests and complete written exams like the 567-question Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory, which screens for, among other things, depression, paranoia and gender confusion. In another test, candidates must submit sketches of anatomically correct human figures.

In interviews by psychologists — who are usually selected because they are Catholic therapists with religious views matching those of the local church leadership — candidates are also likely to be asked about their strategies for managing sexual desire.

“Do you take cold showers? Do you take long runs?” said Dr. Plante, describing a typical barrage of questions intended both to gather information and to let screeners assess the candidate’s poise and self-awareness — or to observe the tics and eye-avoidance that may signal something else.

In seminaries that seek to hew closely to the Vatican rules, a candidate may be measured by the extent to which he defines himself as gay.

The church views gay sex as a sin and homosexual tendencies as a psychological disorder, but it does not bar chaste gay men from participating in the sacraments. That degree of acceptance does not extend to ordination.

“Whether he is celibate or not, the person who views himself as a ‘homosexual person,’ rather than as a person called to be a spiritual father — that person should not be a priest,” said Father Toups, of the bishops’ conference.

Beyond his assertion that “I know it when I see it,” no one interviewed for this article was able to describe exactly how screeners or seminary directors determine whether someone’s sexual orientation defines him. Some Catholics have expressed fear that such vagueness leads to bias and arbitrariness. Others call it a distraction from the more important objective of finding good, emotionally healthy priests.

“A criterion like this may not ensure that you are getting the best candidates,” said Mark D. Jordan, the R. R. Niebuhr professor at Harvard Divinity School, who has studied homosexuality in the Catholic priesthood. “Though it might get you people who lie or who are so confused they do not really know who they are.”

“And not the least irony here,” he added, “is that these new regulations are being enforced in many cases by seminary directors who are themselves gay.”

It is difficult to gauge reaction to the recent guidelines among seminary students and gay priests. Priests who once defended the work of gay men in the priesthood have become reluctant to speak publicly.

“It is impossible for them to come forward in this atmosphere,” said Marianne Duddy-Burke, the executive director of DignityUSA, an advocacy group for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender Catholics. “The bishops have scapegoated gay priests because gays are still an acceptable scapegoat in this society, particularly among weekly churchgoers.”

Seminary officials of the Diocese of Brooklyn and the Archdiocese of New York would not permit a reporter to interview seminarians. But the Brooklyn diocese did allow a reporter to talk to its psychologist, Dr. Palumbo, and its director of vocations, the Rev. Kevin J. Sweeney, whose incoming classes of three to five seminarians each year make him one of the more successful vocation directors in the country. Half of the nation’s seminaries have one or two new arrivals each a year, and one-quarter get none, according to a recent church study.

Father Sweeney said the new rules were not the order of battle for a witch hunt. “We do not say that homosexuals are bad people,” he said. “And sure, homosexuals have been good priests.”

“But it has to do with our view of marriage,” he said. “A priest can only give his life to the church in the sense that a man gives his life to a female spouse. A homosexual man cannot have the same relationship. It’s not about condemning anybody. It’s about our world view.”

[DaShi]

And?

Your point? I'm not a baptist for a reason. I disagree with some of the things they do.

I guarantee that none of those things involve rape.

[Asher]

I guarantee that none of those things involve rape.

Not true. The potential to be raped by a priest is what attracted Ben to Catholicism. Priests are desperate, and if they're the ones to force themselves on him, his gay sex fantasies come true AND it becomes a Holy ****. So it's okay.

[Japher]

The potential to be raped by a priest is what attracted Ben to Catholicism

IMO, if anyone has a bad impression about Christianity then it's most likely because the only Christians they know are either Catholic or Baptist. Baptist are like the spoiled rotten step child who denounce Catholicism, changed their mind, never apologized, and then ran off once their trust fund kicked in.

[rah]

Or the have BK as a neighbor.

[MikeH]

Sadly, I'm not a baptist, never was, and never will be.

Is there an image for the FailTroll?

You're all mental religionists though.

[MikeH]

And?

Your point? I'm not a baptist for a reason. I disagree with some of the things they do.

So when selecting a relegion you wanted one that was FOR enabling paedophilia and promoting homophobia, but AGAINST humiliating rape victims?

And you think this is a positive argument?

[Robert]

That's terrible.
We, christians, unfortunately oftenly act against everything Christ told us

[MrFun]

Those Baptists that are spoken of in the OP article are as bad as Muslim extremists who want to punish women for being victims of rape.