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    Today is World AIDS Day.

    A moment to pause, and reflect.

    . . . .


    Does anyone personally know someone afflicted with HIV or AIDS?
    This is where an awesome Mark Twain quote would be, but Apolyton says it would be too many lines. :(

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    Fortunately, no.
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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    Only one, and he passed away.
    I've had more friends pass due to heart decease so that is a bigger priority for me. (especially since that's more likely to get me too)
    The OT at APOLYTON is like watching the Special Olympics. Certain people try so hard to debate despite their handicaps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asher View Post
    Fortunately, no.
    I know of two people and they seem to be doing well so far.
    This is where an awesome Mark Twain quote would be, but Apolyton says it would be too many lines. :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by rah View Post
    Only one, and he passed away.
    How long ago did he pass away?
    This is where an awesome Mark Twain quote would be, but Apolyton says it would be too many lines. :(

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    I had AIDS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFun View Post
    How long ago did he pass away?
    It was awhile ago, 5-6 years or so if not longer. Memory goes quickly as you get older.
    The OT at APOLYTON is like watching the Special Olympics. Certain people try so hard to debate despite their handicaps.
    Baron O RIP.

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    I think we should all consider how far medicine has come. AIDS used to be a death sentence to a painfull death, now people are living 10+ years with it. I think that soon aids will probably be no worse than a contageus for of diabetes would be.
    Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
    The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
    The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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    Do people really live 10+ years with AIDS, or just HIV?
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asher View Post
    Do people really live 10+ years with AIDS, or just HIV?
    I need to check, but on first hunch I think you are right and I misspoke. But I think some full blown AIDS people live 5+ years.
    Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
    The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
    The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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    How did we ever live before the days of Wikipedia?
    This is where an awesome Mark Twain quote would be, but Apolyton says it would be too many lines. :(

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    Ask Ben, he doesn't trust Wikipedia. He prefers to get his source from unbiased organizations and websites, like www.kkk.com, www.rightwingpower4evah.com, www.christianbuggeryisonlyasinifitsaman.com and so forth.
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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    What a terrible thing to celebrate.
    "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
    "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wezil View Post
    What a terrible thing to celebrate.
    This is where an awesome Mark Twain quote would be, but Apolyton says it would be too many lines. :(

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    Is it really called AIDS Awareness Day? AIDS Day does sound kind of funky. World AIDS Day, that a little better, I guess.
    Not much.
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    AIDs is certainly a serious problem, but also one that is easily preventable through allowing condom distribution. If the Catholic Church would step up and endorse condom use as a means of preventing the spread of AIDs and other STDs (and pregnancy), that might go a long way. The rebuttal that the only 100% effective form of prevention is to simply not have sex is neither realistic nor accurate.

    Another very simply preventative measure is education. Former President Thabo Mbeki of South Africa wins the "Dumbass of the Decade" Award, for a)denying a link between HIV and AIDs, and b)promoting herbal and beet-based rememdies over, you know, medicine. Think there's a link between the government of South Africa (and the Catholic Church, hell, most world religions in general) peddling biased and dangerously inaccurate information and the fact that South Africa has the largest number of AIDs/HIV sufferers in the world? I do.

    With that said, I do NOT support forcing the major pharmaceuticals to give away AIDs medication for free. That medicine cost billions to develop, and forcing those who developed to give it away for free is unfair, especially when it will likely do no good (due to ongoing dangerous activity, local corruption, poor distribution networks, poor education about how to take the drug cocktails, etc.). I hate to say it, but for the majority of people in the Third World, there is probably no solution, for the reasons I listed above. One can only hope that their governments and their religions shape up, get with the 21st Century, and find some way to support future prevention.
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    Sorry Ben, but:


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    Happy Condom
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    I've always insisted that segregation of the HIV-infected would solve the whole problem rather quickly.

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    Those are called concentration camps.
    Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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    He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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    So you'd mandate everyone in the world would be quarantined and held without contact from eachother for six months (to account for HIV manifestation) and tested?
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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    He's talking to you, onodera.
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    That I am.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wezil View Post
    What a terrible thing to celebrate.
    Damn, beat me to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OzzyKP View Post
    Damn, beat me to it.
    Go away! Go to some youth rights rally or something.
    This is where an awesome Mark Twain quote would be, but Apolyton says it would be too many lines. :(

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    He's here representing gay youth.
    Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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    He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowwHand View Post
    He's here representing gay youth.
    He's a pimp?
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asher View Post
    So you'd mandate everyone in the world would be quarantined and held without contact from eachother for six months (to account for HIV manifestation) and tested?
    No, just isolate the risk groups first, and then test both populations. If you're clean, you get out, if you're infected, you go in. Repeat the test several times for the clean population (once a year will suffice), and after 5 years or so you have the virus safely contained.

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    The problem is the 6 month incubation period for HIV
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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