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  • #16
    I think the wider society has changed pretty drastically with respect to attitudes on this, but RC church policies have changed more slowly. Also, you had a lot of people in the priesthood who had no business being priests (and religious sisters and brothers, for that matter) -- they didn't take their vows seriously enough. This has changed for the better rather quickly lately in my experience, at least here in the States.

    You never know in these individual instances. Maybe Lahey thought that with his impulses being as they were, it was better to go the kiddy porn route than the kiddy-diddling route. A lesser evil.
    Last edited by DanS; October 1, 2009, 12:25.
    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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    • #17
      Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
      In what way?
      They don't want to **** women so they think the vows would be grand. They just never considered beforehand what it is that they do like to ****, then they get surrounded by all the hot tail and just can't help themselves.

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      • #18
        Of course there also wasn't the degree of 'media' that there is today.
        I think it's good that the media helps us expose these folks.

        I think it's bad that the media shelters those that they like (ie Roman Polanski). I don't believe this is any more a problem for the Catholic church than other occupations such as teachers. Just, it isn't news when it's anyone other than the Catholic church.

        WRT to the vow of celibacy, people are people. It's not going to stop chronic offenders from acting, and changing it isn't doing to stop chronic offenders from doing the same.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Space05us View Post
          They don't want to **** women so they think the vows would be grand. They just never considered beforehand what it is that they do like to ****, then they get surrounded by all the hot tail and just can't help themselves.
          Please never refer to small boys as "hot tail" again Space.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
            I don't believe this is any more a problem for the Catholic church than other occupations such as teachers.
            Sure it is. Catholic priests have made vows that they are asexual and have it as one of their prime ways of life, so when they fail, it's far worse than if a ordinary citizen fail.
            With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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            • #21
              Sure it is. Catholic priests have made vows that they are asexual and have it as one of their prime ways of life, so when they fail, it's far worse than if a ordinary citizen fail.
              Kiddy fiddlers are kiddy fiddlers. I don't care whether they are preists or teachers or whatever.
              Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                Kiddy fiddlers are kiddy fiddlers. I don't care whether they are preists or teachers or whatever.
                Sure they are, though, priests are supposed not to have such urges. If they have, then it would certainly be a good reason to strip them off their special rights.
                With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                Steven Weinberg

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                • #23
                  They need to change the name of the diocese. With a name like Antigonish they're just asking for trouble.
                  "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                  • #24
                    Antigonish is the name of a town.
                    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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                    • #25
                      "The name Antigonish is of Mi'kmaq origin and is believed to refer to "The place where tree branches are torn off by bears gathering beech nuts"."

                      "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                      "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                      • #26
                        I'm guessing that Doc is referring to Antigone.
                        I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                        • #27
                          How is it OK for customs officers to search for documents on someone's laptop?

                          They should be allowed to investigate whether someone is carrying a bomb,
                          not whether images on their disc conform to laws.

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                          • #28
                            You must be Catholic, VetLegion, if that's what you think the problem is with this thread.
                            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                            • #29
                              He was probably trying to show it to the kids next to him in line.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Asher View Post
                                I'm more curious what a guy has to do to get customs to search your laptop?

                                I've crossed the border with 1 laptop -- and frequently 2 -- and never had a problem.

                                Do the security people just sniff out douches?
                                If a guy looks like, say, a Catholic Priest, they might get suspicious.

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