Advanced Game 31 Discussion Thread

[RobWorham]

Advanced League Game 31 has closed for submissions. Please feel free to discuss your game in as much detail as you want. The more we talk, the more we can learn from each others successes and failures......

Congratulations to playshogi for an epic cultural victory. Congratulations also to fed1943 for a great score to take second spot.....

1st : playshogi : Won Cultural Victory : 1804AD - 3778 points / 88049 points

2nd : fed1943 : Won Cultural Victory : 1907AD - 3568 points / 34591 points

Congratulations also to all those who took part!!!

[Nugog]

Congrats everyone!

[RobWorham]

From novice discussion thread.......

Did you guys like to extra conditions for victory or not?

Is it something you would like to see more of in the future?

[Nugog]

[fed1943]

Congratulations to playshogi!
In this game I realized a mistake I always did:
I played the game like a single game, or demogame,or multiplayer game, that is,
against the other civs and barbs; never disabled science on the slider to be ready
to quickly answer any possible invasion, and so.
This type of games must be played for the score, "against our own civ" played by other
players.
Best regards,

[Nugog]

Thanks Fed!

[playshogi]

This game was so easy that I actually inquired as to whether the novice game had been uploaded by mistake. I had decided when I found out that I was on this huge continent with only 1 other AI, to declare war early and just park a few units in his cities. This would prevent it from expanding, enabling me to settle the rest of the continent in relative peace. The last thing I wanted was to fight a major war for continental control required by the scenario. Lincoln proved to be most incompetent as I was very slow in getting a couple axemen over there. When they got there about 1000BC, Lincoln had just 2 cities and when I declared war with 2 axemen in the neighborhood, I found his capital defended by just 1 warrior. Two turns later Washington was captured. I marched my formidable force of 2 axemen to New York and again faced warriors. I decided to not kill the AI right away, but to take potshots at warriors and so create a Great General. In 700BC or so, Lincoln got his first archer, requiring me to send more troops, but the end result was never in doubt. Barbs were plentiful, but just a minor distraction. What was unusual was I encountered no barb archers, only melee units.

The rest of the game was just the usual builder game as the scenario required settling all the land in one's quadrant. With no AI opposition this was trivial. Another factor that led me to believe this was not emperor was that I was building most of the wonders. This caused a problem because I started to pop Great Prophets when for a culture win you'd really prefer Great Artists. So, I built 4 shrines for the 4 religions I had just for the points. I don't know how the result would be if someone won the game in 1720 with 40,000 points or if someone conquered 2 quadrants and won the game in 1930 with 150,000 points, but I think the most points wins Tri-League games. Besides building wonders I didn't need, I built a few extra cities on the main continent not needed for cultural control, but just for the extra population for the sole purpose of boosting score. I decided that the island group to the southeast was part of 'my quadrant' and so I spent the last part of that game putting cities on these island while the culture grew in my 3 cities. I could have won the culture game much sooner, if I didn't think it was necessary to do this.

I like the scenario design though. Having a secondary goal can possibly change your normal strategy and provide a different playing experience.

[Nugog]

This game was so easy that I actually inquired as to whether the novice game had been uploaded by mistake.

While the game was set up in the same way as other Tri-League games - it does seem as though something went a bit "wonky". However it would/should have been the same for all Advanced players. I did appreciate you asking the question however

I don't know how the result would be if someone won the game in 1720 with 40,000 points or if someone conquered 2 quadrants and won the game in 1930 with 150,000 points, but I think the most points wins Tri-League games.

It would depend on the victory conditions set - however in this one you are correct.

One of the reasons I set the no more than two quadrants rule, was to try and avoid players effectivelly killing everyone else off and cruising to a culture vic.

I like the scenario design though. Having a secondary goal can possibly change your normal strategy and provide a different playing experience.

Thanks - we may look at other ways of doing this kind of thing in other games in the future. Not too many as it can get a bit annoying for players who just want to play.