Flamefest III - The Final Insult

[Dreylin]

Why does Japan have to go first?

It's to ensure that players don't take back-to-back turns while fighting a war, and thus cannot take advantage of double-moving without their opposition having a chance to respond. Fairly standard clause for simultaneous turn pitboss games.

[Grandpa Troll]

It's to ensure that players don't take back-to-back turns while fighting a war, and thus cannot take advantage of double-moving without their opposition having a chance to respond. Fairly standard clause for simultaneous turn pitboss games.

Hmm, ok, but say Japan takes a turn attacks say Russia

Russia is away on business and gets back at 35 hours and 25 minutes

He plays the turn

New order starts up

all over waiting sometimes a whole day when if they are last in line, they cant take double turns

ok..i reckon.........................

[Zoid]

Gramps, they're at war. And since Japan moved first after the DOW he gets to play first until the war is ended.

Edit: nevermind I see that the question is answered...

[Pinchak]

And since Japan moved first after the DOW he gets to play first until the war is ended.

Not exactly.

If half the turn expires (in this case 16 hours) and the first civ in the turn order has not yet finished their turn, then the last civ in the turn order can take their turn... thus making them the new "first civ in the turn order".

Or in other words...

"The last civ in a war to play their turn must wait until either 1.) The other civ plays it's turn, or 2.) Half the turn expires.

The "first civ" can change during a war. At least that is my understanding.

[GeoModder]

Not exactly.

If half the turn expires (in this case 16 hours) and the first civ in the turn order has not yet finished their turn, then the last civ in the turn order can take their turn... thus making them the new "first civ in the turn order".

Or in other words...

"The last civ in a war to play their turn must wait until either 1.) The other civ plays it's turn, or 2.) Half the turn expires.

The "first civ" can change during a war. At least that is my understanding.

Good I checked the thread.

For starters, and if I'm not wrong, I thought the turn timer is set on 36 hours, so half of that time should be 18 hours. If I'm wrong, please correct me.
Second, I wouldn't agree under normal real life circumstances to a "play shift" in hostile conditions (ie units from opposing civs standing toe to toe).
I also think we're both reliable enough in our playtimes that this won't happen unexpectedly, but vacation season is coming so we will need to make an agreement by then (if the war lasts that long).
Also, as first player it's my responsability to give you a warning if for some reason I can't play my turn in the first 18 (or 16 if we're on a 32 hour timer). As long as I haven't warned you it's indeed fair you can make your moves.
And lastly, I have no objections on your request to play last, finish the turn, and make your moves at the onset of next turn as long as there's no abuse by killing units, taking cities, destroying improvements and occupying strategic spots (including your own hypothetical undefended cities/forts/resources, etc...).
Is that agreeable?

[Zoid]

Not only did I answer the question superfluously, I also answered it wrong...

[GeoModder]

Not only did I answer the question superfluously, I also answered it wrong...

How so?

@Pinchak: I see you're last to play this turn again, and don't see any reason (just checked the game) why you wouldn't play the next turn too.

[Grandpa Troll]

How so?

@Pinchak: I see you're last to play this turn again, and don't see any reason (just checked the game) why you wouldn't play the next turn too.

See if that is so, that is wrong, everyone seems to want to play, I also suspected the same (not saying on this same person) but noticed the same players seem to be waiting.

Just saying if we want to extend the game to limits, I also can wait myself?

Just asking, since rulz are being discussed, common sense should as well?

Thanks for helping me clarify what appears an ongoing issue.

Gramps

[GeoModder]

See if that is so, that is wrong, everyone seems to want to play, I also suspected the same (not saying on this same person) but noticed the same players seem to be waiting.

Just saying if we want to extend the game to limits, I also can wait myself?

Just asking, since rulz are being discussed, common sense should as well?

Thanks for helping me clarify what appears an ongoing issue.

Gramps

Erm... I meant to say that for me Pinchak could play this turn AND the next during the same online session. I see that my post could be interpreted both wise.

[Grandpa Troll]

Erm... I meant to say that for me Pinchak could play this turn AND the next during the same online session. I see that my post could be interpreted both wise.

Thats what I am also referring to, at this point, it take a few moments at best to make a play.

This way the game moves forward and held up less

[Grandpa Troll]

About 14 hours left until another turn

So far, fun game indeedy!

[Dreylin]

Hey Grandpa, you forgot to hit end turn!

[Grandpa Troll]

Hey Grandpa, you forgot to hit end turn!

No I didnt, I have not played yet

[GeoModder]

No I didnt, I have not played yet

Then why did you enter the game?

[Grandpa Troll]

Then why did you enter the game?

I didnt

[Dreylin]

Twice!

[Grandpa Troll]

Twice!

Not me

I will let you off the hook
Im at work
and had my wife checking if the last player had played beside me
When I get home I will play the turn
if I return from work in time
if not, such as life, will just advance to the next turn

Gramps

[GeoModder]

You know, a simple check of civstats would have told you the same information.

You have 4 hours left according to civstats as of this post, which translates in roughly 4,5 hours in RL.

[Grandpa Troll]

You know, a simple check of civstats would have told you the same information.

You have 4 hours left according to civstats as of this post, which translates in roughly 4,5 hours in RL.

I dont use CivStats

Plus a simple login to the game gives me the same information

[Grandpa Troll]

Who is Skullduggery?

I ask because here we are again and he/she/it has not played his/her/their turn


14 hours to go

Just asking good folks

[Dreylin]

Who is Skullduggery?

Pinchak

[Grandpa Troll]

Pinchak

Is Pinchak away?

[GeoModder]

Did I scare him off?
In any case, he hasn't posted since May 20th.

[Pinchak]

I was away during the weekend.

As long as I haven't warned you it's indeed fair you can make your moves.

I don't understand this "warning" reference, nor do I think it is part of the rules.

Also.... yes, with a 36 hour timer 18 hours (not 16) would be half. Good thing I am not an accountant.

[GeoModder]

I don't understand this "warning" reference, nor do I think it is part of the rules.

I just meant that it's my duty to drop you a mail or PM if for some reason I exceed my alotted time (half the turn), and when not there's no qualms about you moving units even if I didn't play my turn yet.

[Pinchak]

I just meant that it's my duty to drop you a mail or PM if for some reason I exceed my alotted time (half the turn), and when not there's no qualms about you moving units even if I didn't play my turn yet.

Still not sure I am clear on what you are saying.

Of course it would be a nice courtesy for you to PM me that you will be going over the half time limit, so I could just play my turn early instead of waiting. I just don't want this to be confused as, "If I warn you I won't make the half time limit, turn order does not change."

[Giger]

There's been another declaration of war.

Turn order will be:

1. Giger
2. gitbliss

Based on previous turn order.

[Pinchak]

There's been another declaration of war.

Looks like things are heating up.

[Zoid]

I'm glad I live in a friendly, peaceful neighbourhood with friendly, peaceful neighbours.

[Giger]

BTW, I logged in to see the result of the battle. I didn't move anything.