I'll play, but are we combining this with Snoop's auction league? We might as well, both leagues could be very small if we dont.

Here is the sign-up thread for the daily league. I'm hoping we get at least 8. The league is more time-intensive than the weekly league, but a BIG pro is that if a player is injured, you don't have to waste a week with him on your roster.
Again, 8 is enough.
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I'll play, but are we combining this with Snoop's auction league? We might as well, both leagues could be very small if we dont.
I'm in, particularly if we combine it with the auction league (though if more than 8 are interested, I'd hope we allow for that).
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I'd play both, if offered, but combined daily would be fine.
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here ya go stuie
looks like it'll be a daily league with auction instead of draft. A-Rod was worth 47$ last year![]()

So those interested so far are:
TEF
Guynemer
Berzerker
Imran
Fistandetc
Stuie
Snoopy
would like to get at least one more
This is my first time setting up a league, and I've never participated in an Auction league before. Suggestions on stats and the date for the draft would be appreciated.
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I'll ask over at FFZ, I'm sure we'll get someone (or 3)
I figure y'all wanna keep the scoring pretty simple, like maybe
Runs
Hits
Homers
RBIs
Stolen Bases
On Base %
Slugging % (or something combining the two)
(fieldling sucks, why bother)
Quality Starts
Saves
Holds
K/BB (and/or K/9)
WHIP
ERA
Having Ks and BBs usually results in a split
time to chime in people, what do you want? I've argued over this stuff for damn near a decade so I dont really care anymore. I'm Slowwing down![]()
Date: don't set it too far in the future (more accurately, work it out in early march rather than late feb.) as people tend to flake if you set it a month ahead of time. I'd try setting it for a weekend in march, maybe the weekend of the 14th if that works for people ... late enough to have spring training 'info' but not so late that you can't work out a delay if it's vital.
Stats:
Let's not do identical to the other league... if they use QS's let's use wins, for example. For that matter, I wouldn't object to using the default 5x5 options - in a way it's better because it's easier for newer players to join, and auctions can scare people a bit. Also, I'd prefer not to do Holds if we can ... as nice as it would be to include middle relievers, holds are really more annoying and unbalancing than they are useful.
Also, K/9 probably more so than K/BB, it seems to be the more readily available stat of the two. And most certainly not both.
If I had to pick and we weren't doing default 5x5, I'd say:
OBP, R, HR, RBI, SB
W,S,K/9,WHIP,ERA
possibly exchanging R or HR for SLG, or adding SLG to give an imbalanced set. We can have the more complex set in the regular league.
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I'm flexible
I posted for players at FFZ
I haven't been able to do the splits since I was six, so I guess I'm not ...
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we have a nibble over at FFZWalrus has shown interest doing an auction league

R, HR, RBI, SB, OBP, SLG, W, SV, K, HLD, ERA, WHIP
last yrs auction stats

I'm quite partial to 1st, 2nd, and 6th hitters. We should add Hits and Doubles to the batters. Maybe also add Shut Outs to pitching.
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more CGs, SHO are rare
but its your league (and Snoops?) so post the stats you want and we'll see if enough people object to something or want to add to it. Thats how I usually do it
For a simple stat set, CG and SHO are both terrible, because they imbalance things effectively randomly (particularly SHO, CG have at least a bit of predictability). Auction league should be simpler stat set, both because we have the other league in order to satisfy the grognards who want to muck things up, and because the auction is complex enough for new auctioners that adding too many stats makes it unapproachable, and too difficult for most.
Last year's set worked really well, and I'd really like to see it used again ... it is very well balanced between #1/#2 and #3/#4 hitters, basically three categories for each. (#5 hitter is not necessarily a doubles hitter, it's often a power hitter, like Paul Konerko for example on the White Sox). Doubles are well captured in SLG and RBI. Hits are well captured in OBP, SLG, and to a lesser extent R.
I'd be all for using last year's stats with the removal of Holds, or left as is, and with either Wins or QS...
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thats true, CG and SHO are nice options in a league with lotsa stats but we wont have that many. And I sure hate it when my opponent gets a CG SHO for a 5 inning rain shortened game, it has happened to me at least twice.
The thing I like about Wins and QS is that it favors throwing SPs over some RP strategy (getting rid of Holds would help that) while Wins favor set up men (Holds) and middle relief over closers. QS just says so much more than a Win though, guys can get a win for throwing 1/3 inning but need 6 with 3 ER or less to get a QS. We could drop Holds and put in K/BB or something and I wouldn't mind replacing Wins with QS. Just making suggestions![]()
I suppose SLG is better than TB, maybe... In a weekly league I'd lean toward TB since thats actual output while in daily leagues where we can ostensibly sub for players getting a day off, rate of production matters more. For example, Chipper has been real productive when he plays but he's hobbled and misses too many days and can hurt in a weekly league.
forever in search of the perfect stat set![]()

you guys gonna start a league...with settings, etc...?
I feel like Jeff Goldblum in Jurassic Park asking if there are dinosaurs on the tour![]()

I mean, we have 7 now, but everyone is already in the weekly league.
If ya'll are cool with 7, I'll work on it tonight and tomorrow. Its an auction league, so we've got a month.
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8 is better if we can get someone ... Berz did you say someone from FFZ wanted in?
EmpFab/etc. how do you feel about doing the auction on March 14 or 15? What time (whichever day we do it)? Fist's european, right? So early (say 11am or 12pm EST start, expect 1 hour to 1.5 hours)?
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Sundays are usually best for me. I'll just have to remember not to do any showings on March 15th. Lets do it then at 11 am.
Everyone else?
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W or QS, not both... W was suggested in the auction league to make the stats easier. Add K/9 or K/BB to pitchers if you want to replace HLD as a pitching stat, it doesn't overbias towards SP as much.
I'd rather have 2B for hitters than TB (SLG covers TB too well).
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W or QS - I missed the W on first read. I'd rather have QS than W, but since the other league does that, lets switch it up. W is kept, QS is not.
HLD or K/9 or K/BB - I can't stand HLD, I'd rather not have to have shitty relief on my team for the purpose of one stat. The other league has K/BB, so lets switch it up. K/9 is in, HLD and K/BB is out.
2B or TB - Me too. 2B added, TB not.
FINAL STATS: R, HR, RBI, 2B, SB, OBP, SLG, W, SV, K, ERA, WHIP, K/9
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we have 8, and we might have 10 if FFZ doesn't get some leagues going soon
start a league and I'll post those stats for Walrus over at FFZ
oh yeah, 11 am est Mar 15th
and is this just the AL or NL or MLB? I wanna pick players from both leagues. So what if we end up with really good teams?

so did someone start a league at yahoo?
Okay, I set up an ESPN league to do the actual auction. This is not the real league, just a way to hold the auction. TEF still needs to create the actual league in Yahoo!
You must end me your email address via PM if you want to participate in the auction.
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I dont know if Walrus is registered here or not, can I PM Walrus your email? What is it?
Last edited by Berzerker; March 7, 2009 at 20:26.

walrus wont know until wed or thur if he can make it
My email is my user name @ gmail .com ...
If he can't make it please find another, and/or find someone who can sub for him in the auction ...
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Got Walrus' email (at yahoo, not gmail, but it's all good) and sent him an invite.
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