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    Beyond the Pit [Pitboss Diplomacy Game] [Story Thread] . PART 7 (February 2009)

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    To: Chief Tarhe of the Wyandot Nation
    From: Aun'O Es'Ther Per'Hyl of the Piercian Empire

    Greetings, neighbour,

    Thank you for your clarification. I don't doubt you will handle the situation with honor and I trust you for returning them to their rightful owner at the end of this disaster.

    I know my citizens will be well treated during your regency. Please do your best to avoid any cruelties the roman troops could be up to.

    Aun'O Es'Ther Per'Hyl

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    The Kor'Shi, n°2 : The Per'Shi-Ar Headquarters

    Pierced Hill, 05.09.1485, The piercian intelligence service Per'Shi-Ar has been granted the means to double it's effectiveness. A citadel for the greatest spies of the Kor has been built in our capital. The original plans came from the Kor'O, who passed away three weeks before the site has been finished at the respectable age of 94 years. May the spirits have her soul.

    Both Kor'El Kha'Lor Wild Kho'Per and Kor'Vre Ha'Tun Por'Per have been nominated as her successors. The final decision will be taken in the coming weeks.

    OOC : This means that I have built Scotland Yard in my capital, just in case this isn't obvious.

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    Cancellation of our Wine deal with Sparta

    To the Spartans

    From the Khmer

    Here forthwith we require to cancel our Wine trade from Sparta.

    The last shipment we received was quite sour. We believe it had been off loaded at Barcelona from the Danais, rather than Sushi city. From Barcelona it took some time to reach us and the Spanish delivery crew were quite drunk and ill from pilfering the cargoe.

    What arrived in Khmer was emptied into the sea, which did turn a violet shade of putridity.

    Also, we do not understand the exact route the Danais has taken with Barcelona being visted in between several Spartan visits to our Northern Meduian friends.

    Maybe this longer than necessary sea voyage explains the condition of the wine.

    Some other matters have come to light regarding Spartan transparency in the recent dialog on map trading. We are investigating certain irregularities and will inform you of any outcomes.

    ooc - not yet cancelled in-game until Sparta plays turn
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    To the Khmer,

    Wine does not get sour, especially not Spartan wine.
    Nor did we transport our wine with the Danais. Someone has pulled a joke on you, and you apparently felled for it with you eyes wide open.
    The end of our trade has been accepted.

    We do understand that you are on war-course.
    Nothing say or offer can make you chance that direction. You don't even answer our messages.

    We'll keep both eyes on you, mister warmonger and suppressor.

    Orestes

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    No, it is true. The wine was corked and the Khmer call that sour.

    Did you not know it was on the Danais?

    Why this talk of war when Khmer speak of Wine?

    We do not cancel other trades and maintain Open Borders but your harsh words may cause a re-think.

    My fathers ancient wars are from another time. This is now and the world has changed.

    I, Suryavarman 3, have not talked at all harshly with Sparta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pitboss Greece View Post
    To the Khmer,
    -You don't even answer our messages.
    Ah, Khmer did, in their own way but Sparta would not understand this.

    Take care to discriminate between Suryavarman 2 and Suryavarman 3.
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    Dear Orestes

    I have accepted your invitation to come over to Athens . We have much to talk about. I will be arriving in 2 days.

    Xristo

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    To: Bak Moon, Imperial Foreign Minister of Korea

    Greetings friend!

    My people are nearly done completing the Korean settlement at New Portugal. Portugal has secured the location and is in the process of gating the new community. Please expect an official request for transfer of ownership in 3 cycles.

    Bak Moon Portugal is prepared to send security forces to defend your people from barbarians.

    Best,

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    TO: Xristo of Portugal
    FROM: Gojong of Silla, Emperor of Korea

    Honorable Xristo;

    Greetings from Korea. We are pleased to hear from you, and are just as pleased to inform you that two Korean ships are being prepared to transport soldiers, workers, and colonists to the new territory. We thank you for your friendship and are eternally grateful for what you have done. In honor of our agremeents we hope that Korea's position in New Portugal will help to establish security and order upon the continent.

    I do write back to ask that you read and support the proposal of our ambassador to Rome, the Monk Kukai. He was among the scouts you may have spotted in northern Rome/southwestern Portugal. Word has it that he is nearly prepared to offer a proposal to the Romans, Piercians and Russians (as well as the Wyandot who have become part and parcel to this negotiation) that we believe will be well accepted by all parties to the troubles in that region. Of course you will read it beforehand, but I am sure you will find that it will be an agreeable outcome that will limit the animosity that may exist between those nations.

    As always; thank you for your precious time.

    - Bak Moon, Imperial Foreign Minister of Korea
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    Emperor Gojong and King Orestes were dining together in the great hall of the Gojong Castle.

    "This is the most beautiful caste I have ever seen!" Emperor Gojong said.
    "Thanks, dear friend. It was especially constructed for you to make you feel like home" Orestes answered.
    "The atmosphere is.... breath taking!" Gojong said.
    "I hope it'll be a home for you, as often as you desire! It's very close to Sparta City! And you can bath in the river, down the hill!"
    "The location is excellent indeed!" Gojong smiled. "In return I want to offer you to use Korean Canal for the period of my reign!"

    "Thanks!" Orestes said, a bit suprised!
    "Thanks again! This canal is of great use to move my fleet from the Southern Ocean to the Inner Sea!" Orestes said thankfully.

    "Korea must formally apologize for all the things said and done by my predecessor, Emperor Sejong" Gojong then suddenly said.

    Orestes was shocked!
    Sparta and Korea had been driven apart during the Spartan-Roman wars. Both nations may have been to blame for that. Now Korea formally apologized.

    "This is a great day for the Spartan-Korean relations!" Orestes said!
    "But it is not you, my friend, who must apologize. It is me, in the name of Sparta, to apologize for the pressure we have laid on you! We did not have the right!"

    "Yes, you did." Gojong said.
    "During wartimes you should be able to count on your friends, but we did not answer you"

    "No, my friend. It was Sparta's choice to go to war. We had no right to pull you into our conflict!" Orestes claimed.

    "You were right!" Gojong said, when slamming his fist on the table
    "Sparta was wrong" Orestes said with some anger in his voice.

    Then both men suddenly started to laugh.
    "We were both wrong" Gojong then said. "But those days are behind us now! Let's rebuild the Korean-Spartan relations again!" Orestes whispered, while standing up to shake Gojong's hands.
    Then both men hugged each other. It was a hug between Sparta and Korea.
    Some said that it was like Lacedaemon and General Bae hugging in ancient times.

    "Did you know that General Bae had a house, not far from here?" Orestes asked.
    "No, I did not. Can I visit it?" Gojong asked.

    Then both men left the castle. While walking through the hills, they talked about international politics.
    "I hope that you are willing to sign the anti-emancipation treaty." Orestes said.
    "Sparta will compensate you if you have to end resource deals because of the treaty. We have pleny of resources, and behind the scenes there are more nations negotiating with me to enter the treaty. Together we can supply each other with all resources we need, if we have to boycot some Emancipation-Nations"

    "I will consider it, but who are those other nations?" Gojong said.
    "I can't tell you right now. But expect news about this very soon!" Orestes replied.

    "New Sparta..." Gojong said
    "Is there place for Korea on New Sparta?"

    "Yes, there is!" Orestes said!
    "You are free to settler new Sparta in the North-East!

    "What are your terms?" Gojong asked.
    "There are no terms for Korea! Just stay in the North East, I'll send you maps to make the territory clear. But you can settle it without having to pay anything! Sparta will send many armies to defend it against barbarian armies that may claim the lands as well."

    "Do you expect other nations to lay a claim on our territory on New Sparta?" Gojong asked.
    "No, I don't. I don't see why any civil nation would try to grab land from friendly and civilized people like the Koreans!"

    "But the barbarians...." Gojong replied.
    "We can never be sure about Barbarian nations. That's why I'll send some armies."

    Both men continued to walk.
    They enjoyed the view over the desert, the river, the mountain.
    They talked about everything and anything.

    When they arrived at the old Bae House, Emperor Gojong asked if he could stay there alone for a while. "I want to connect with the past" he said. "Let me be all by myself here, and meditate! It'll help me to decide upon the Anti Emancipation pact."

    "Take all the time you need." Orestes said. "I'll post some guards, not far from here. Out of sight. They'll protect you if needed. I'll wait for you in Sparta"

    Then Orestes walked away, after shaking Gojong's hands intense.

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    To the Piercians.

    Leaders of Piercia,
    Sparta officially withdraws all political support we have supplied to your case from now on.
    We have tried to support your claim on some of the cities occupied by the Romans.
    We have tried to find ways for Piercia to regain it's strength.
    But Piercia has never expressed any gratitude or appreciation to the Spartan help.
    Neither have the Piercians even contacted us or asked us for advise or help.
    Neither did you sign the Emancipation Treaty or did you shown any other form of support to Sparta.

    No, Piercia decided to be very stubborn against the Romans, despite being fully to blame themselves for the current situation.
    Sparta cannot support such a nation in any way, and therefore retracts all it's support.

    Orestes, King of Sparta

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    To : Sparta
    From : Aun'O Es'Ther Per'Hyl

    Very well,

    I will cancel all current deals with Sparta, including open borders. You let us down again, and this doesn't surprize me at all. I hope you have been well-payed for this.

    Aun'O Es'Ther Per'Hyl

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    Kukai, a monk from the Jogyesa Monastery in Seoul and Religious Advisor to the Korean Emperor Gojong, was sent to Rome in order to help negotiate the final peace deal between the Romans and Piercians (the Piercians being formal 'allies' of the Koreans, although not in a military sense). His charge was quite difficult; old rivalries and multiple wars between all involved had defined the proceedings. The Romans didn't trust the Piercians, the Piercians didn't trust the Romans and the Russians didn't trust anyone , it would be quite a difficult negotiation, but the monk had a clear head and was operating from a neutral perspective.

    As he travelled throughout the lands (from Piercia, to Rome, to Portugal to Russia, and back) he meditated and thought about a peace that will not only be agreeable to the current nations involved, but one that may also prevent another war from breaking out. The monk travelled to both the capitals of Rome and Piercia and offered the following compromise....




    Official Proposal from the Korean Empire

    I, the monk Ku Kai of Wonsan, have been comissioned to offer an official proposal regarding the peace deal and end of war between the nation of Piercia and the nations of Rome and Russia. I have the backing and authority of both the Foreign Minsiter Bak Moon and his majesty and Emperor of the heaven and earth Gojong of Silla. Before I get to the final proposal I will report on findings that, I believe, must be brought to light. Only through truth and understanding can true enlightenment be attained, and such is also the case for peace.

    I have determined that:
    • Simply in its form between Rome and Piercia, Russia was the cause of the conflict.
    • In its greater form; that of the original conflict between Rome and the allied Spartans, Mayans and Piercians, the war was also begun and caused by the Russians.
    • In its historic form; that of an impasse between Russia and Rome due to subjugation, whether true or percieved, of Russia by Rome. The war was caused by the relationship between the Romans and Russians.
    • Any attempt to refute these findings is simply political motivation. There is no way a man of historic learning, especially of this area with more extensive knowlege and natural understanding of this regions history, could possibly refute any of these findings.
    • Initially the war was between Rome and Russia. Russia asked for Piercian help and thus to be vassalized, Piercia obliged to do so. Russia then complained when Piercia made peace with Rome, and forced Piercia into war. Now Russia complains that they were brought into war in the first place, and nobody calls them on it. I call them on it. Russia has been duplicitous, and duplicity in congress with violence and death, with unneeded suffering, is an abomination and a cancer upon this earth.


    Having said that, there are a few mistakes that Piercia made as well and I shall list them thusly;
    • Piercia did in fact conspire to attack Rome, even under the auspices of peace.
    • Piercia even accepted gifts from Rome while plotting to invade her.
    • Piercia allowed herself to be used by the duplicitous and disorderly Russians.
    • Piercia broke a long trust between herself and Rome, who was once an ally of Piercia. There was once a time where Roman and Piercian warrios fought along-side one another.


    My purpose here is not to disrespect, or accuse any nation of wrong-doing. Nations work in their better interests and can not be judged based simply on the musings of a lowly monk like myself. However these are all facts. Denying any of this is true WILL NOT help the process of peace. We all know that lies, no matter how small, will eventually result in much suffering and pain. And this is that case. The continuation of this situation will only exacerbate towards more war and revenge. Accepting these findings as past transgressions is the only way we can move on to a proper peace agreement.

    FIRSTLY, I propose that the city of Mi'Ting (Meeting in foreign dialects) should remain in Roman control. However the return of that city should never be brought from the table. The citizens of the city are Piercian in origin, so it is only natural that they may wish to challenge the authority of Rome. If the denizens of Piercia forcefully return to Piercia (culture flip) then this should be no cause for war. That said, Piercia should not make designs to recapture the lost city. It was their own carelessness that caused it to fall.

    SECONDLY, the Romans should not maintain their occupation of the remainder of their territories. Their so-called ally, Russia (who has shared that title with many other nations, much to their chagrin), has influenced this war. If they seek further reparations they shall go to the Russians. The remainder of the cities (Oath, L'Or and Horse Valley) should revert to Piercian control but only under the following conditions;
    • Piercia must cede ONE trade voucher or ONE tech to the Romans.
    • Piercia must sign a non-aggression treaty with Rome and Russia.
    • The three aforementioned cities, currently occupied by Rome, may not hold Piercian armies. No more than two Piercian garrisons may remain in the city to maintain order.
    • A three-nation occupation force will be established to maintain defense in these cities and to report to Rome, regularly, on the position of Piercian troops in the area.
    • The three nations are yet to be determined, but in the interest of fairness I suggest Wyandot, Portugal and Greece.


    While this is not exactly what the victors, Rome, have asked for. We believe this is the best way to end this peacefully, and hopefully to ensure future peace in the region. If borders between Rome and Piercia are maintained peacefully, I am confident that these ancient friends can once more join the community of peaceful nations. You can not build a wall (i.e. Wyandot ownership of the border territories) and expect peace to return, only by living alongside one another in peace and prosperity can you learn to trust one another again.

    LASTLY, I urge you both to cast a wary eye against Russia. They have once again proven to be duplicitous. Simply because they are small and weaker, does not mean they are to be trusted.

    I hope you discuss my proposal, together, for openness is the way towards peace and love. I am going to return to Korea at this point (with my entourage, as well as visit nations along the way) so please send any responses to Foreign Minister Bak Moon. Thank you, and peace be upon you all.

    - Ku Kai of Wonsan.
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    Aun'O Es'Ther Per'Hyl,

    The Piercian empire is in many troubles.
    It has alienated many nations from itself.
    It lost many cities.

    But still it blames everybody but itself.
    Maybe it would be better for Piercia and it's people if
    the Piercian rulers would do some self-research and try
    to alter their foreign diplomacy.

    Sparta wouldn't have ended it's support if Piercia would
    at least have sent some letters and diplomats to Sparta.

    But we can't support a nation that apparently isn't seeking
    any solutions.

    We accept the closing of our borders.

    Orestes, King of Sparta

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    Kukai, the Russians are my friends and allies. I find your slander of them distasteful and unproductive.

    Augustus of Rome.

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    Greetings, Ku Kai of Wonsan.

    I need to correct you about your suggestion that there ever was a Piercian-Spartan alliance against Rome. There wasn't. Sparta invaded Rome, and Piercia took advantage of it by also invading Rome.

    I hope that you are willing to correct this mistake.

    King Orestes of Sparta

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    TO: Orestes of Sparta, Augustus of Rome
    CC: All Nations of Terra
    FROM: Gojong of Silla, Emperor of Korea

    Men of honor!

    Firstly I would like to remind you that your missives were to be directed to me, Bak Moon, the Imperial Foreign Minister rather than the Monk Ku Kai. He is on a goodwill tour for the Buddhist faith, and was asked by the Emperor to offer a proposal for an end to the troubles in the north. We told him we would back whatever proposal he made no matter how contraversial he would be. We understood in doing so that we would be asking a man who is NOT beholden to the Emperor to speak his mind, a man who is high deliberative and thoughtful and a man who will pull no punches when describing what he sees. Of course we were correct in doing so.

    I will first address the concerns of Rome, then Greece, and then make some statements on behalf of the Emperor.

    Firstly to our Roman friends; while it is understood that the Russians are allies of Rome you can not argue with history. While I do not agree with the tenor Ku Kai used in his missive, it was very undiplomatic, I do agree with the subject matter of the findings he arrived at. You would be remis, and quite foolish to be honest, to try and deny anything he said. Of course you did not do that, you simply urged upon him that the Russians are your friends and allies and that he spoke dispariagingly of them. This is true, and while you may deem it unproductive it is productive in the sense that the true history and cause of the conflict must be gauged properly. Especially for all sides to come to true and final terms. As a diplomat I applaud the Russians and their skill, they managed to achieve a good end for themselves and that is the measure of a true diplomat. That said, and maybe I can put it in terms the Romans can understand, the CAUSUS BELLI lies in Russia. Because of this, and because Russia was delivered from the strife with nary a scratch, they should receieve no compensation from Piercia. With this I agree. I can do no more than apologize for some fo the words Ku Kai used to describe Russia, however EVERYTHING he said was FACT. In fact it is almost laughable that nations such as Rome, Portugal, Piercia, Greece, etc. (i.e. nations involved in the issue) haven't called them on it.

    To our eternal allies the Greeks; I urge you not to make such hasty comments in public, especially when my office keeps records , do not attempt to make fools out of Korea's Foreign Ministry. For if you dropeth that card, we shalt picketh it up.

    To the other nations of the Terra. Do not let politics get in the way of this war's proper end. As a Buddhist, I beileve that we must look through the false, the imaginary, and discover the truth behind everything. This applies to war as well. To ignore FACTS as our Roman and Greek friends are attempting to do is only going to sully any peace agreement they arrive at. It will only exacerbate the animice between the involved nations. Allowing lies and mistruths to exist without challenge, without question, is just as bad as telling these lies and perpetrating these mistruths yourself. Our ambassador Ku Kai has called out the lies, and has shown light upon the mistruths. In the interest of security, we will NOT divulge certain sensative documents. However if certain nations wish to challenge us, and challenge what is true, we will be forced to do so. But I implore other nations, particularly the nations of Portugal and the Wyandots; both close to, but not involved in, the conflict to please come to your senses and urge the Romans and Piercians to agree to this proposal.

    Forgive them their actions; for they are urged towards them by hatred and vanity.

    - Bak Moon, Imperial Foreign Minister of Korea
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    Russia object against most of Ku Kai's observations!
    Ku Kai shows that he lacks any knowledge about the history of the Roman-Piercian-Spartan wars!
    I will once again tell the history of the conflict.

    - Rome invades Russia and seized some cities
    - Russia asked Piercia to help them fighting the Romans, Piercia agreed, Russia becomes a vassal.
    - Piercia betrays Russia by forcing peace upon Russia, just when Russia has slaved an army big enough to recapture it's own cities
    - Piercia then forces a deal upon Russia that hurts Russia more then it helps Russia
    - Then suddenly Piercia declares war on Rome, pulling Russia into war with Rome again! This time again Russia is unprepared
    - Rome seizes 2 Russian cities
    - Russia renounces Piercians lordship because Piercia hasn't lived up to it's promises and failed to protect Russia
    - Russia is able to build a large army, takes 1 of it's cities back
    - Russia and Rome sign a lasting peace deal that is acceptable to both parties, ending ancient old hostilities. The peace deal is that good for both sides that they start to build up friendship.
    - Piercia declares war upon Russia out of the blue.

    It's a fact of history that Russia never declared war on anybody.
    Russia has never had an ally, except Rome since the peace of Pitrograd.
    Piercia has betrayed Russia twice. First by forcing peace upon Russia when it had an upper hand. Then by pulling it into a new war with Rome.

    Therefore I don't see any reason to Blame Russia for anything.
    Still you, Ku Kai, present it as if Russia is the reason for the current Piercian situation.
    You do this without any explanation.

    I ask you to either explain your grieving words against Russia, or to correct them.

    Joseph Stalin

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    To: Bak Moon,

    Can you please explain the exact wrongs done by Russia in the wars of the past century.
    If you can list any wrongs made by Russia that harmed the Piercians, or anybody (outside the legal acts of war against Rome), then Russia will fully compensate the Piercians.

    But if you can't name any wrongs, by fact, then I urge you apologize against Mother Russia.

    Russia has suffered a lot by the wars of the past century.
    Millions have Russians have died, both on the battle field and in the cities during the production of our armies.
    Russia has never betrayed anybody, eventhough it was betrayed by the Piercians many times!

    List the facts, and I will bow for you.
    If you can't, then please apologize.

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    Orestes left Sparta and headed for the Gojong castle.
    He was quite angered by the entire situation, and wanted to speak with his friend, Gojong, about it, trying to find a solution.
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    The Korean Palace, Sparta...

    Emepror Gojong spent a few weeks in the palace the Greeks erected in Sparta. It was a very nice palace, and a fine Greek attempt at Korean archetecture (although they got a few things wrong). Gojong was quite pleased with his trip to Greece. He was accompanied by General Kim Jong-seo while the Prime Minister was in Korea handling the Imperial duties. "General Kim" Gojong said, "you are a commoner correct?"

    The Genral winced, he hated when he was called a commoner. As a General he was surrounded by nobility, nobility that took every opportunity to remind him of his station. This was the Emperor though, this was different, "Yes sir, I am not a nobleman."

    "How did you get your emancipation General Kim? If you do not mind me asking?" the Emperor asked.

    "Well my lord, my family's lord was Wang Geon in those days. I was freed from the land in order to fight in his armies." Kim said nervously.

    "Is life so difficult as a common man Kim?" the Emperor asked as he fanned himself, it was quite hot in the palace.

    "I wouldn't know sir, I was drafted at a very young age. My father worked hard though, and he told me there were times where food was scarce." Kim explained. "I have been a soldier for most of my life, I do not know of the plight of the peasants." he lied, much of his family was still in service to the nobility of Pyong'yang.

    "Those were in much more meager times" the Emperor said, partially for his own benefit, "And we are no longer obligated to the Maya by blood."

    "The Maya sir?" Kim asked, he was confused as to why the Emperor brought this up.

    An Imperial Page entered the room, and bowed, "Emperor, and important missive from Prime Minister Bojong." he said handing the letter to the Emperor.

    "Thank you my lad" the Emperor said tossing him some Greek currency, "Go buy yourself something nice." he said smiling. The page bowed and left teh room, "Yes Kim, the Mayans. They are in this stupid fight with the Greeks over emancipation. You know they have released their peasants from the land there, given them so-called rights." the Emperor continued opening the letter.

    "Oh, I hadn't known" Kim lied again.

    "Yes, very frightful, its as if they have no law there, no government at all. I say this because I was thinking of agreeing to the Greeks emancipation proposal, not that I have anything against the peasantry of course. But, it would do us a great deal in regards to making allegience with the Greeks, establishing our friendship again. I have no intention of liberating the peasant class. Without them the nobility will have nothing and the military will have all of the influence" he said as he looked at the letter, "Do you agree General?"

    "Yes of course sir, that would be a terrible turn of events." Kim said.

    Gojong looked at him, "You don't say much Kim, you are no fun! Sometimes I don't even think you listen to me," he smiled, "Now let's see what the Prime Minister has to say...."


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    Your Highness,

    It seems our choice of Ambassador may have been a minor mistake, and further our choice of Foreign Minsiter may have been as well. Initial reaction from Orestes and Augustus were not positive. I have enclosed Ku Kai's proposal along with this missive, while I think there are merits to it he does take a lot of time to dispariage the Russians. Further the Greeks took offense to charges that they were working on concert with Piercia. Whether this is the truth or not, and believe me we know either way, it was not tactful and caused rancor from Orestes. I understand you are in Sparta at the moment, so I urge you to talk to Orestes and ease his worries.

    Bak Moon's reply was a little better, but he reiderated Ku Kai's assertion that Russia was duplicitous (although he was much more diplomatic about it than the monk was) and also challenged Greece again, although not in a very aggressive manner. This may be a huge foreign policy blunder for us, it is difficult to tell at this juncture. You should try to alieve the situation with Greece, do what you can.

    Your loyal servant,

    -Bojong of Wonsan
    "...Damn it," Gojong muttered to himself as he crumbled the paper into his fist, "General, please invite King Orestes here, tell him to bring his emancipation treaty. And I shall write a private message for him, please bring this with you. His eyes only..."

    EDIT: Damn it, bad timing! Now this certainly makes no sense does it? Actually if you don't mind deleting that post that'd be great, there's no way Gojong would act like that if you came at him in that manner.
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    King Orestes, Friend

    Please forgive my slowness in responding to your formal proposal of an anti-emancipation treaty. I sign up fully to the proposal.

    Augustus of Rome.

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    Joseph Stalin, greatest leader of the Rus, Ally,

    I wonder if you have considered the anti-emancipation treaty proposed by Great King Orestes of Sparta. You are a free, noble, nation and can make your own decisions on such matters. However, I hope that this might be something we could agree to together. For while it is not formally part of the Pax Romana, it would make sense for the whole of the Pax Romana to be free of these radical ideas for our mutual benefit.

    I hope that you might see it this way too. But if not, I am sure we will learn to understand each other's different approach.

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    King Orestes along with General Kim Jong-seo entered the palace, along with Orestes' retinue. He was furious that the Korean Foreign Ministry had offended Greece publicly. Yet again Greece felt publicly betrayed by the Koreans, which was astonishing to them in the wake of this new-found relationship between the two nations. Gojong was prepared, sitting at his desk to handle this situation. Despite the fact that he personally agreed with much of Ku Kai's findings, he felt that it was not good to state it publicly, and certainly not without first consulting the Emperor.

    "Emperor Gojong, I trust these are not your personal feelings on the matter!" King Orestes fumed as he entered Gojong's chamber, there was no greeting.

    "King Orestes, please, I implore you to listen to what I have to say." the Greek King simply nodded, his eyes were intense with anger, "This monk, Ku Kai, is a trusted religious advisor. But that is all, he is on a goodwill mission and we felt that it would be proper to send a Buddhist monk to handle this as our ambassador."

    "And this is Korea's idea of goodwill? Ku Kai trashes the Russians publicly, in fact he nearly spends the first half of his proposal doing so, then he turns around and accuses Sparta of being involved in some scheme? Sparta does not scheme, we attack you face to face! Something Korea has yet to learn apparently!" he said, slamming the proposal on the Emperor's desk, "And then you expect US to send soldiers to carry out YOUR proposal."

    Gojong took a deep breath, "King Orestes, you must understand that this was firstly done without my consent, but I will back the words of my ambassadors. It will be my place to deal with them when they return, having said that, I believe Ku Kai's proposal has merit."

    "If you believe that this has merit, perhaps it is you that wants this conflict to continue. You insutled Russia, and have insulted Sparta!" the King began to calm down. He was warned about this, by his ministers, that Korea made brash public statements. And now he realized why there was an impasse between the two nations, "And after all of my hospitality, I have built you a castle this is the thanks you show me?"

    "Again, good King Orestes, you misunderstand the purpose of the monk. He is there to accomplish an agreement, he did not travel there to make people feel good about themselves. Sometimes you have a break a few eggs to make an omlette. I urge you to support this proposal."

    The King was shocked that this young Emperor would handle this entire situation like this, "Emperor Gojong," he began carefully, "We have enjoyed a marvelous time, your trip has done a lot to bring our nations together. But this can not be ignored. And then you ask me to SIGN THIS and agree to follow this proposal?" he shook his head, "And I thought the Koreans were supposed to be shrewd diplomats!"

    "King Orestes, I understand it may be a difficult thing to ignore. But its something that must be put on the table, even if it were not true the Romans will believe it so. Do not think for a moment that the Romans have suddenly forgot they called you an oath-breaker. This is to assuage their thoughts, it only benefits our purpose to put this on the table. Whether it is true or not. If this crisis is to truly see a fitting end, we must air out our dirty laundry." the Emperor said standing up, and approaching the Spartan King, "Korea can not do this alone, we require Spartan soldiers to maintain the garrisons. Korea is far too weak to do this themselves, and if the Greeks agree this carries a lot of weight."

    "So you need us to do this? If that is the case why the disrespect?" the King asked.

    "Again, I did not tell the monk to say this, these are his personal findings. I will reprimand him when he returns from his goodwill tour. Now, I understand you are angry, but perhaps I could convince you otherwise. It is no secret that the latest news from Maya bothers me. They were once under a King who was my cousin, and now they are ruled by the mob." the Emperor explained, "I would like to think if I signed your emancipation decree, if Korea agreed to its terms, that you would sign this deal and supply soldiers to occupy the Piercian territories, and give regular status reports to Rome."

    The King eyed the young Emperor down, "We can agree to that, but will you truly follow the agreement? Can you truly break your deals with the Maya if they do not comply?"

    The Emperor turned towards his desk and picked up the Korean proposal King Orestes had thrown there, "I will do my best to get them to comply, but of course I can not control what they do. I of course shall comply with your agreement, and make this intent public once I return to Korea when you sign this agreement and publicly state you support Ku Kai's proposal. You may even publicly say you disagree with his findings, or particular findings. But it is imperative that we get agreement on this proposal. This way Piercia, and Rome, and Russia can finally end this terrible crisis."

    King Orestes looked down at the paper, he then looked up at the Emperor, "Do you have a pen.....?"
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    Orestes looked at the pen he had just received from General Kim Jong-seo.
    Then he took some deep breath and said: "My anger has influenced my words. Looking back at our conversation, I must say that my anger was more directed at your minister's words then a the monk. It's not the mistakes people make, that anger me. I was angered by your minister's response when I tried to send some correction."

    Then he looked at the pen again.
    "Sparta is willing to send some observers to Piercia, but I doubt that the Piercians are willing to accept Spartan observers. Piercia recently has broken all contacts with Sparta. But I have the intention to send some observers, if you ask me to."

    Then Orestes signed the pacts.
    He gave the pen to Gojong. "Please sign the anti-emancipation treaty".

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    Great Emperor Augustus, leader of the most splendid nation on earth,

    Russia does not desire emancipation.
    All people in Russia desire only one thing, to serve Mother Russia.
    Russia is everyone and everyone is Russia.
    We currently enjoy the fruits of the Caste System and we do not seek anything that harms this great way of living.

    I have waited for your decision regarding this Anti-Emancipation pact.
    I did not want to sign it without knowing your position.
    Now you have signed it, I will sign it as well.

    Joseph Stalin.

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    King of Sparta, I do hereby sign your anti emancipation treaty in the name of Mother Russia.

    Joseph Stalin

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    To : Gojong of Silla, Emperor of Korea
    From : Aun'O Es'Ther Per'Hyl of the Piercian Empire

    Greetings, Emperor

    I rejoice at the sight of the purposal of your monk. The boudhists seem not to be affected by the mental desease that apparently got Rome. His description of history is accurate indeed. I read that you trust his judgement and for that you are quite a wise man.

    However, there is a formal mistake in his writings. The city of Mee'Ting is the one Rome has renamed "Oath City". And it is Rough Kho'Per, aka "Guard City" that I claim back. You will notice how creative the Romans are for naming cities.

    I have declared war on the Rus. Yes, for that I am fully guilty. However, if, Rome makes Russia pay for this war as she should do, I would retract my war-declaration and simply close my borders to them. As we speak, they send knights to our city of Por'Per, hoping to be hidden from the eyes of the world in the western jungles. The won't cause us any threat however. I just thought you might wish to know about this.

    Theese are the only comments I would have to add to your monk's purposal. I fully agree with the rest of it.

    It is good to see that one still has friends in such difficult times.

    Aun'O Es'Ther Per'Hyl

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    Auno Esther Peryl,

    Can you finally explain to me why Russia has to pay?
    And can you also explain why you apparently are displeased with the existence of Russian knights in Piercian territory, after Piercia has declared war upon Russia itself?

    I am still willing to sign peace.
    I have no terms for this peace.
    But you are stubborn and you desire war.

    Let the Koreans know this, Russia is willing to sign peace! With everyone!
    And yes, Russia is willing to pay for all damages done for which Russia is to blame.

    But despite the many words in which Russia is blamed, nobody has been able to describe why Russia is to blame.
    Tell me all about our wrongs, and I will pay.

    Now Piercia, shall we sign peace, or do you want me to send a larger army to Piercia?

    Joseph Stalin

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    To : King Orestes of Sparta
    From : Aun'O Es'Ther Per'Hyl of the Piercian Empire

    King of Sparta,

    You have streched my patience in theese last days and angered me alot.

    However, I have heard you are willing to cooperate with Korea in order to find a solution to the current crisis. Theese are good news.

    I won't block off your good will. However, as a small favour I would ask you to help me in spreading Boudhism thoughout my Empire. Please, spread it to Wild Kho'Per or Por'Per, and I will retract my last decision regarding Sparta.

    I hope we may come to something productive here.

    Aun'O Es'Ther Per'Hyl of the Piercian Empire

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