Beyond the Pit [Pitboss Diplomacy Game] [Organization Thread IV]

[Robert Plomp]

This is the Fourth Organization Thread for the Pitboss Diplomacy Game: Beyond the Pit

Use the Story Thread for in-game purposes.

Important links:
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Story Thread Part 1 (July-August)
Story Thread Part 2 (September)
Story Thread Part 3 (October)
Story Thread Part 4 (November)
Story Thread Part 5 (December 2008)
Story Thread Part 6 (January 2009)
Story Thread Part 7 (February 2009)
Story Thread Part 8 (March 2009)
Story Thread Part 9 (March 2009)

Organisation Thread Part 1
Organisation Thread Part 2
Organisation Thread Part 3 (Last post)

Tech Trade Thread
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[civname]@diplo.plomp.eu

if plomp.eu mail is down use the alternate address:

[civname]@diplo.plomp.eu.test-google-a.com (instead of [civname@diplo.plomp.eu)
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Voting

Every 1st day of the month we will start voting for the best players in 3 categories during the last month.

We vote in 3 categories:
1. story telling
2. diplomacy
3. military strategy

We send in a top-3 list for every category.

Story telling is about submitting interesting stories to the story thread in any format.

Diplomacy is about being able to reach your goals through diplomacy in any way.

Military strategy is about making very tactical strategical moves and decisions. (make sure you post evidence about this in the story thread!)
NB: this category isn't meant only for the war-winners. Someone can lose a war because he's a weaker player, but made some brilliant moves. In this thread we can award him for that. The game-scorelist will reward players for winning wars.

Every player is free to pick 3 players in every category. No more! Less (or none) is possible if you can't choose. It would be cool if you could include reasons for the vote.

Rules for voting:
1. send them in before the 4th of the month!
2. votes send in after the 4th of the month do not count
3. players who didn't vote for a specific month will not gain vote-points for that specific month
4. voting happens through the anonymous mail address
5. votes stay unknown till the end of the game (to avoid political votes)
6. votes are being send to vote@diplo.plomp.eu or votes@diplo.plomp.eu
vote@diplo.plomp.eu.test-google-a.com also works.
7. The mail subject includes "votes round x"
8. You can't vote for yourself
9. The vote-mailbox that receives all votes will remain closed till the game has been finished. Then we will all receive the password and be able to read/count the votes and read the comments.

The #1 in each category earn 3 points, #2 earns 2 points, #3 earns 1 point.

This will result in 4 scorelists (3 above mentioned categories + the gamescore list)

All players will receive points for their position in all of these 4 lists. 18 points for the #1's, 17 points for the #2's, ...... 1 point for the #18's

The sum of these points tells us who won this game.

Conclusion, the winner is determined by:
25% gamescore
25% story telling
25% diplomacy
25% military strategy

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Rules:

- 15 tech trade rule
Every civilization in this game is allowed to trade away 15 techs. It is also allowed to trade away the right to trade a tech to another civilization.
It matters not what the away trading civilization gets in return. It matters not if it is a small technology (ie. fishing) or a big technology (ie. Fusion).

If civ A trades Philosophy to civ B which returns both Monotheism and Masonry, then Civ A loses 1 right to trade a tech away (tech voucher) and Civ B loses 2 rights to trade a tech away (2 tech vouchers).

If Player A trades away Philosophy to civ B which returns the right to trade away a tech, then Civ 1 loses and wins 1 tech voucher (thus: the nr of techs he can trade away remains the same) while Civ B loses 1 right to trade away a tech.

If Civ A gives Theology to Civ B, then Civ A loses 1 right to trade away a tech (loses 1 tech voucher).

- Turn Order During War Time

Civilizations that are at war must agree to a set turn order that is enforced from the moment war is declared in-game until the war ends in-game (i.e. spoken agreements or promises to end the war don't count, the war must end in the game). All combatants shall alternate their turns according to a consensus agreement by all war participants. When during the day each player plays his or her turn will be decided by consensus of all war participants. This will be done to ensure all players take their turns in the proper order without inconveniencing any player or preventing any player from taking a turn.

During war, each player is allowed to log in to the game only once each turn, and take no more than one hour to play their turn. The next player in the turn order is not allowed to log in until the preceding player has logged out.

If the turn order is violated in any way, or an allegation of violation is made, the game shall be paused immediately.

If turn order is violated it is then up to the victim(s) of such violation to decide whether a reload is necessary. If the victim(s) requests a reload, a reload is to be done immediately (no debate). If the victim(s) is satisfied with alternate solutions, then an arrangement can be made between the turn order violator(s) and the victim(s) and a reload will not be necessary and the game shall be unpaused.

Alternate solutions must be agreed to by all war participants by consensus, and will be enforced by all game participants. If an alternative solution is not carried out exactly as agreed, a reload shall occur immediately (with no debate) to the turn of the original turn-order violation.

[Pitboss H Roman]

Originally posted by CyberShy
Am I the only one who didn't knew that clicking on the 'replies number' link for every thread in the forum gives an overview of the number of replies by every poster in that thread?

I made most replies in this thread

And nope, I didn't know it either. Are you sure it is not just an admin capability, as I can't seem to make it work.

But that's OK, I know who to ask if I ever get that curious.

[Pitboss America]

I'm missing playing this game... what happened again in it?

[The Capo]

Originally posted by Pitboss America
I'm missing playing this game... what happened again in it?

Yeah, I feel that.

I'm excited to get back into the swing of things again myself. I have a few storylines planned, and I'm interested to see what the fallout is from the "northern war" (as we call it in Korea). I wonder if its over, or what is going to happen.

I haven't seen anyone online (and by anyone I mean the people I normally talk to) in like two weeks! So I have no idea what the mindset is between all of the combatants.

I'm anxious to find out.

[Robert Plomp]

Originally posted by Pitboss H Roman




And nope, I didn't know it either. Are you sure it is not just an admin capability, as I can't seem to make it work.

But that's OK, I know who to ask if I ever get that curious.

It's also there when I login to my pitboss account.
It's th "replies" column in the main-overview (civ4\multiplayer)

There is says or every thread how much replies it has.
Those numbers (ie. 405 replies) are links.
When you click then, it gives you an overview.

[Robert Plomp]

Capo: are you aware that you missed last turn and didn't play this turn yet either?

[The Capo]

Yeah I'm aware, I was going to play it last time, then something came up. And today I can't really play it either, so hopefully I'm not too hungover for the next few days.

[Pitboss H Roman]

Originally posted by CyberShy


It's also there when I login to my pitboss account.
It's th "replies" column in the main-overview (civ4\multiplayer)

There is says or every thread how much replies it has.
Those numbers (ie. 405 replies) are links.
When you click then, it gives you an overview.

Doesn't work for me. All that happens is that I get taken to that thread.

[MMC]

Works for me... Are you clicking the right link? Do you have a pop-up blocker on?

Personally I've known about this feature for years, it's pretty standard for forum software like this, but I tend not to pay much attention, since it's mainly there for admins to check who's spamming a thread.

[Pitboss H Roman]

Will try again.

btw CS. I sent my December votes last evening by gmail. Let me know if you did NOT receive them. thx!

[Robert Plomp]

Maybe some forum-styles have not that link.

Regarding voting: I'll setup the new story thread and ask for the voting soon, most probably tomorrow. After all it's New Years day! (And I'm pretty sick! I even went to sleep yesterday 10pm! )

[Pitboss H Roman]

Pitboss America 72
Pitboss Celts 126
Pitboss England 6
Pitboss Greece 312
Pitboss H Roman 109
Pitboss Inca 12
Pitboss India 0
Pitboss Japan 1,089
Pitboss Khmer 253
Pitboss Korea 517
Pitboss Maya 212
Pitboss Natives 135
Pitboss Persia 356
Pitboss Portugal 339
Pitboss Rome 603
Pitboss Russia 103
Pitboss Spain 108
Pitboss Vikings 1,212

Info from the members list as of a couple of hours ago. Of course, Ozzy (India) is posting as himself, and nor would this reflect all the regular ID posts made in the organization thread.

[deity]

test

[Pitboss Portugal]

Are we going to the normal timer after this turn?

[OzzyKP]

Pitboss America 72
Pitboss Celts 126
Pitboss England 6
Pitboss Greece 312
Pitboss H Roman 109
Pitboss Inca 12
Pitboss India 0
Pitboss Japan 1,089
Pitboss Khmer 253
Pitboss Korea 517
Pitboss Maya 212
Pitboss Natives 135
Pitboss Persia 356
Pitboss Portugal 339
Pitboss Rome 603
Pitboss Russia 103
Pitboss Spain 108
Pitboss Vikings 1,212

Info from the members list as of a couple of hours ago. Of course, Ozzy (India) is posting as himself, and nor would this reflect all the regular ID posts made in the organization thread.

I totaled up the posts I made in BtP threads, and I got 271.

[Robert Plomp]

We're all back to normal turns now!
All enjoy the game again!

[Robert Plomp]

Guys, it's time for voting again!
Since the kickoff is a bit late I'll let you guys vote till January 10th!
If you can't vote before then, please ask for a delay in this thread.

Please vote fair! Vote for things that happened in (the) December (threads).
Don't vote for allies and friends just because they're allies and friends.
Don't vote not for competitors because they're competitors, etc. etc.
Just saying this because someone must say it now and then no actual reason for it.

I have not received any votes so far!
Holy Rome: where did you send them to?
The correct address is: vote[*]diplo[.]plomp[.]eu

[Toni]

I spoke to Marcus and he is interested in talking over the Russians maybe the Vikings if they are free. Many of you know him. He is a realible diplo player who enjoys playing his civ no matter what health his civ is in.

[Robert Plomp]

Awesome if Marcus would take the Vikings!
Russia would be back, he said. I think finding a sub for the Vikings is more urgent.

[Pitboss America]

Cybershy your message box is full.

And wow does Apolyton look different .. and is much more responsive. Thanks whoever redesigned this.

[Pitboss H Roman]

Guys, it's time for voting again!


I have not received any votes so far!
Holy Rome: where did you send them to?
The correct address is: vote[*]diplo[.]plomp[.]eu

(This is what I received back.)

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification

THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY.

YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE.

Delivery to the following recipient has been delayed:

vote@diplo.plomb.eu

Message will be retried for 2 more day(s)

Technical details of temporary failure:
DNS Error: Could not contact DNS servers

----- Message header follows -----

Received: by 10.141.132.1 with SMTP id j1mr8003811rvn.282.1230764511051;
Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:01:51 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.141.169.9 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:01:51 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID:
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 18:01:51 -0500
From: "Pitboss Holy Roman Empire"
To: vote@diplo.plomb.eu
Subject: December's votes from HRE
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="----=_Part_161149_19735874.1230764511040"

[Pitboss H Roman]

Guys, it's time for voting again!


Please vote fair! Vote for things that happened in (the) December (threads).
Don't vote for allies and friends just because they're allies and friends.
Don't vote not for competitors because they're competitors, etc. etc.
Just saying this because someone must say it now and then no actual reason for it.

But understand that if a friend is really nice to you, that is "diplomacy" as well. There is obviously more going on in the game diplomatically than is represented by the diplo posts in the story thread.

For me it is a balance of what is going on in the world diplomatically, regardless of how it affects my civ (ie the Rome-Russia-Piercian dust up), and stuff that does affect me directly. (ie the recent Hastings conference and peace negotiations). Generally, if there is little going on in my back yard, my votes may travel overseas, and vice versa.

[Pitboss H Roman]

We're all back to normal turns now!
All enjoy the game again!

[Robert Plomp]

it's not plomb.eu but plomp.eu, America

My PM box is totally empty. (got less space in the new poly-layout )
You can say thanks to the apolyton-site-renewers here!

[Toni]

OK CS i will have Marcus take the Vikings. Do they have a pass? I will let Marcus know ASAP and have him drop by and say hello.

[Robert Plomp]

The Capo knows the pass and everything.

[Pitboss H Roman]

it's not plomb.eu but plomp.eu, America

Got it. Fixed my contact list and re-sent. Thanks!

[Pitboss Greece]

I need some new goals in this game.
Anybody in need of some vendetta with Sparta?
Please only nations close to Sparta apply.

[Toni]

Well CS or Capo please pm me the pass for the vikings so Marcus can start taking turns from tomorrow.

Thanks

[Robert Plomp]

I've sent it to you by pm.