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Uncle Joe
Joe the Plumber: McCain a "real" American, Obama 'scary.'
Joe Wurzelbacher, aka 'Joe the Plumber' - who got famous after confronting Barack Obama over taxes during a campaign event earlier this month in Toledo - confirmed the worst-kept secret of the presidential race these past two weeks.
He's voting for John McCain. Here's why - McCain is a "real American" and he is "scared" of Obama.
Here's the full quote:
“The bottom line is I am going to vote for a real American; I’m going to vote for John McCain."
As for Obama: "My gut feeling as he answered my questions? I was scared for America.”
And he's not just worried about America, it turns out.
Apparently Joe the (unlicensed) Plumber from Toledo is also a something of a foreign policy expert, too.
Here's a line from the Associated Press story today about his endorsement of McCain:
"When a McCain supporter asked him if he believed 'a vote for Obama is a vote for the death of Israel,' Wurzelbacher replied, 'I'll go ahead and agree with you on that.'
McCain and Wurzelbacher appear together for a rally Wednesday in Florida.
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This could turn the whole election around
Uncle Joe
Banana
Or the world...
Mr. Karamanlis surged to power in March 2004, promising to stamp out widespread corruption and cronyism after nearly 20 years of Socialist rule. But since winning re-election last year with a meager two-seat majority in Parliament, he has had to face down swelling dissent from several of his party deputies. The land scandal has scorched his party, which polls show trailing the Socialist Pasok Party for the first time in eight years. Mr. Karamanlis’s aides contacted Friday suggested that his decision to endorse a congressional commission to investigate would buy him time for a fresh political offensive.
“Karamanlis has to show again that he is fighting for Joe the Greek Plumber and that small and medium-size enterprises are the government’s priority,” said Nicholas Karahalios, a senior New Democracy strategist.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/25/wo...=1&oref=slogin
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Joe! Joe! JOE!
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"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
So you're for Biden now?
*hides*
Banana
Yeah, you're real funny.
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
They're actually dragging the plumber around and making him part of McCain appearances outside Ohio?????
That "death of Israel" bit makes even Fox News cringe.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/1..._n_138674.html
Man, they are really grasping.
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This is where an awesome Mark Twain quote would be, but Apolyton says it would be too many lines. :(
More choice quotes from Joe the Dumber:
"You know a lot of the stuff that our government is doing right now is all about taxation without representation and you know the last time that happened a couple guys got together and threw the Brits out."
"Social Security is a joke. I have parents; I don't need another set of parents called the government. You know, let me take my money and invest it how I please. Social Security I've never believed in, don't like it. I hate that it's forced on me."
Joe the Plumber isn't even named Joe, he's not a licensed plumber, he will have his taxes cut under Obama, he lied about owning a business, he's a registered Republican, and he lied about that during the debates too. In short Joe the Plumber is wrong about everything.
"Our scientific power has out run out spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men." - Martin Luther King Jr.
"A cynical, mercenary, demagogic press will produce in time a people as base as itself." - Joseph Pulitzer
Those are choice quotes? They seem reasonable to me. Especially re: Social Security.
What does the government do with Social Security tax money? Do they magically transform it into more money to support needy elders? No, they piss it away into a black hole of debt.
Am I supposed to believe that the government is a better steward of my hard earned money than me? Surely not.
I don't doubt that Joe was a repub. plant, but his positions are very much in the American tradition.
He doesn't understand soc sec though.
JM
Jon Miller-
I AM.CANADIAN
GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.
If folks were investing social security how they please, there would be a lot of homeless seniors right now...
"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
-Bokonon
Which is the reason why we have soc sec.
JM
Jon Miller-
I AM.CANADIAN
GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.
Yeah the government is doing a bangup job investing it. $10 trillion federal debt - good job. And on the order of $50-60 trillion when you include social security, medicare, et al.Originally posted by Ramo
If folks were investing social security how they please, there would be a lot of homeless seniors right now...
The Fed's have the "luxury" of borrowing billions from China and Japan. So we get to pay interest on that borrowed money, or we can just have the Fed monetize more debt, or fire up the printing press, inflate the currency, and make us all poorer.
Which part of "The United States is bankrupt." are people not getting?
The government doesn't HAVE any money to give out via Social Security or any other program. They have taken all of your tax money and pissed it into a black of hole of debt.
We gotta pay the piper some day. The dollar will be abandoned as the world's reserve currency, no one will lend us money because have nothing of value, and then we will be in a world of ****.
So why do people refuse to recognize the need to raise taxes?
JM
Jon Miller-
I AM.CANADIAN
GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.
Probably because they'd rather handle their own finances rather than trust their money to a corrupt and bankrupt government?Originally posted by Jon Miller
So why do people refuse to recognize the need to raise taxes?
JM
1. Social security generates a considerable surplus, and will continue doing so for some time.Originally posted by HalfLotus
Yeah the government is doing a bangup job investing it. $10 trillion federal debt - good job. And on the order of $50-60 trillion when you include social security, medicare, et al.
The Fed's have the "luxury" of borrowing billions from China and Japan. So we get to pay interest on that borrowed money, or we can just have the Fed monetize more debt, or fire up the printing press, inflate the currency, and make us all poorer.
Which part of "The United States is bankrupt." are people not getting?
The government doesn't HAVE any money to give out via Social Security or any other program. They have taken all of your tax money and pissed it into a black of hole of debt.
We gotta pay the piper some day. The dollar will be abandoned as the world's reserve currency, no one will lend us money because have nothing of value, and then we will be in a world of ****.
2. The interest rate that we pay on the national debt is extremely low, and as a percentage of our GDP our debt is relatively moderate by historical standards. All we need to take care of that that is a small tax increase.
3. No one's going to abandon the dollar any time soon. Have you been paying attention to world markets?
"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
-Bokonon
The debt is almost entirely the fault of the following presidents:Originally posted by HalfLotus
Probably because they'd rather handle their own finances rather than trust their money to a corrupt and bankrupt government?
Reagan
Bush 1
Bush 2
All these presidents focused on lowering taxes, or keeping them the same when we were on 'war' footing.
Obviously the fault isn't of paying too much in services and the like, rather the fault is that the republicans have been corrupt and the republicans 'cut tax' strategy has bankrupt the nation.
JM
Jon Miller-
I AM.CANADIAN
GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.
1. Social security can continue on until at least 2048 with absolutely no changes what so ever before running out of money. A few small changes could make it good forever such as raising the retirement age to 68 from 62, end the loop hole which allows wealthy people to get out of paying most of their social security taxes, or just allowing increased immigration.Originally posted by Ramo
1. Social security generates a considerable surplus, and will continue doing so for some time.
2. The interest rate that we pay on the national debt is extremely low, and as a percentage of our GDP our debt is relatively moderate by historical standards. All we need to take care of that that is a small tax increase.
3. No one's going to abandon the dollar any time soon. Have you been paying attention to world markets?
2. US GDP is about $14 trillion with a national debt of $10 trillion. That's about 70% of GDP. Bush has doubled our national debt so our debt situation went from not to bad to really bad during his presidency.
3. The dollar looks good right now mainly because everyone else looks worse but the US hasn't seriously kept a strong dollar policy since Bush took office. Other wise we'd be trying to actually balance our budget.
"Our scientific power has out run out spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men." - Martin Luther King Jr.
"A cynical, mercenary, demagogic press will produce in time a people as base as itself." - Joseph Pulitzer
They clearly should have just monetized debt, then we wouldn't have any problems, and there'd be candy canes raining from the sky. Also pies.Originally posted by Jon Miller
The debt is almost entirely the fault of the following presidents:
Reagan
Bush 1
Bush 2
All these presidents focused on lowering taxes, or keeping them the same when we were on 'war' footing.
Obviously the fault isn't of paying too much in services and the like, rather the fault is that the republicans have been corrupt and the republicans 'cut tax' strategy has bankrupt the nation.
JM
I follow world currency markets closely, and I'm hearing a lot global financial leaders who are not at all pleased with the Fed's handling of the Dollar.
Specifically the European communities which are calling for 'global economic solutions' (i.e. move over Fed, the EU is taking charge here) as well as several OPEC nations and Russia have been calling for the abandoning of the Dollar as the 'peg' for crude oil. This would surely cause the value of the Dollar to drop significantly.
Oh, BTW did anyone mention that Joe the Plumber is a tax cheat who owes back taxes?
"Our scientific power has out run out spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men." - Martin Luther King Jr.
"A cynical, mercenary, demagogic press will produce in time a people as base as itself." - Joseph Pulitzer
If he prevented the government from stealing his money, I say good for him.
Joe the Liar called out by...FOX NEWS' SHEP SMITH...regarding Joe's belief that Obama will cause the destruction of Israel.
Which led some at Free Republic to say that Shep Smith is "in the bag for Obama". Right.
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Specifically the European communities which are calling for 'global economic solutions' (i.e. move over Fed, the EU is taking charge here) as well as several OPEC nations and Russia have been calling for the abandoning of the Dollar as the 'peg' for crude oil. This would surely cause the value of the Dollar to drop significantly.
The USD/Euro exchange rate:
USD/Ruble:
"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
-Bokonon
That's about 70% of GDP. Bush has doubled our national debt so our debt situation went from not to bad to really bad during his presidency.
But it wasn't doubled as a percentage of the GDP. We're not bankrupt. If we get back to roughly the tax rates that we had in the 90's and make the right investments in energy and infrastructure and health care (which will require more deficit spending in the short term), we'll be fine.
"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
-Bokonon
Exchange rates, great.Originally posted by Ramo
The USD/Euro exchange rate:
USD/Ruble:
Soooo, again why are so many international leaders bashing the Dollar and the Fed in public statements? I have seen no less than a dozen direct quotes and YouTube videos of international leaders calling for a change in international monetary policy. Fearmongering? Saber-rattling? Political maneuvering vis-a-vis the U.S financial establishment?
There must be some explanation. My view is that the Bretton Woods Dollar system is coming to an end, and political rhetoric from Europe, Asia, and the Mideast certainly points in that direction.
Originally posted by HalfLotus
Yeah the government is doing a bangup job investing it. $10 trillion federal debt - good job. And on the order of $50-60 trillion when you include social security, medicare, et al.
The Fed's have the "luxury" of borrowing billions from China and Japan. So we get to pay interest on that borrowed money, or we can just have the Fed monetize more debt, or fire up the printing press, inflate the currency, and make us all poorer.
Which part of "The United States is bankrupt." are people not getting?
The government doesn't HAVE any money to give out via Social Security or any other program. They have taken all of your tax money and pissed it into a black of hole of debt.
We gotta pay the piper some day. The dollar will be abandoned as the world's reserve currency, no one will lend us money because have nothing of value, and then we will be in a world of ****.Well, then, how about cutting your obscene military spendings?
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I couldn't agree more!Originally posted by Wernazuma III
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