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    hm PETA just grossed me out!!

    PETA Urges Ben & Jerry's To Use Human Milk


    VERMONT -- People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals sent a letter to Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield, cofounders of Ben & Jerry's Homemade Inc., urging them to replace cow's milk they use in their ice cream products with human breast milk, according to a statement recently released by a PETA spokeswoman.

    "PETA's request comes in the wake of news reports that a Swiss restaurant owner will begin purchasing breast milk from nursing mothers and substituting breast milk for 75 percent of the cow's milk in the food he serves," the statement says.

    PETA officials say a move to human breast milk would lessen the suffering of dairy cows and their babies on factory farms and benefit human health.

    "The fact that human adults consume huge quantities of dairy products made from milk that was meant for a baby cow just doesn't make sense," says PETA Executive Vice President Tracy Reiman. "Everyone knows that 'the breast is best,' so Ben & Jerry's could do consumers and cows a big favor by making the switch to breast milk."

    In a statement Ben and Jerry's said, "We applaud PETA's novel approach to bringing attention to an issue, but we believe a mother's milk is best used for her child."

    September 23, 2008

    Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield, Cofounders

    Ben & Jerry's Homemade Inc.

    Dear Mr. Cohen and Mr. Greenfield,

    On behalf of PETA and our more than 2 million members and supporters, I'd like to bring your attention to an innovative new idea from Switzerland that would bring a unique twist to Ben and Jerry's.

    Storchen restaurant is set to unveil a menu that includes soups, stews, and sauces made with at least 75 percent breast milk procured from human donors who are paid in exchange for their milk. If Ben and Jerry's replaced the cow's milk in its ice cream with breast milk, your customers-and cows-would reap the benefits.

    Using cow's milk for your ice cream is a hazard to your customer's health. Dairy products have been linked to juvenile diabetes, allergies, constipation, obesity, and prostate and ovarian cancer. The late Dr. Benjamin Spock, America's leading authority on child care, spoke out against feeding cow's milk to children, saying it may play a role in anemia, allergies, and juvenile diabetes and in the long term, will set kids up for obesity and heart disease-America's number one cause of death.

    Animals will also benefit from the switch to breast milk. Like all mammals, cows only produce milk during and after pregnancy, so to be able to constantly milk them, cows are forcefully impregnated every nine months. After several years of living in filthy conditions and being forced to produce 10 times more milk than they would naturally, their exhausted bodies are turned into hamburgers or ground up for soup.

    And of course, the veal industry could not survive without the dairy industry. Because male calves can't produce milk, dairy farmers take them from their mothers immediately after birth and sell them to veal farms, where they endure 14 to 17 weeks of torment chained inside a crate so small that they can't even turn around.

    The breast is best! Won't you give cows and their babies a break and our health a boost by switching from cow's milk to breast milk in Ben and Jerry's ice cream? Thank you for your consideration.

    Sincerely,

    Tracy Reiman

    Executive Vice President

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    perhaps they could introduce topless waitresses who you can milk in case you need a drink
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    Okay. Now it's sounding a little less gross.

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    I have no problem with that. We have probably all drank human milk at some point or another. What's the big deal
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    Yeah. I see it much less disgusting to drink a human mothers milk than a cows milk. If you find it disgusting, you're just too used to drinking cows milk. You will find many cultures around the world who do find it repulsive that westerners drink cows milk.

    The health benefits would be a bonus, but who is going to do the quality check?

    You could do a lot with this though. Famous women breast milk could be sold at a high price. You could even package it. Scarlett Johansson's milk! Are you telling me you wouldn't pour that in your cornflakes?


    It's a fantastic idea.
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    Dairy products have been linked to juvenile diabetes, allergies, constipation, obesity, and prostate and ovarian cancer.


    Uh... what? Most studies showing cow milk is bad have big flaws and as long as you go for low fat milk, obesity ain't a problem (and may be reduced!). Also cow milk has positive health effects (may reduce cancer & coronary heart disease).

    The problem with switching to human milk... who is going to be providing it on a mass scale? Should the PETA person just advocate Soy or Rice Milk instead?
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    Soy or Rice Milk instead?
    That would have at least been remotely within the realm of possibility, I could even see some marketing potential for B&G to roll out a new flavor using Soy milk with PETA acting as a backer/promoter. But this is so absurd it can only be a publicity stunt, or the slipping away of PETA's last tattered vestiges of sanity.
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    The problem is lack of supply, yes? Can gay men be given hormones to produce breast milk? You know, help out the ladies?

    I don't drink milk btw.
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    Would breast milk cause breast growth in men?
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    I don't know but I quit drinking cow milk when I started developing udders.
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    Would breast milk cause breast growth in men?
    Only if it contains Estrogen
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    So PETA advocates turning human women into cattle.
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    Originally posted by Comrade Snuggles
    So PETA advocates turning human women into cattle.
    Because their attitude is always "How would you like it if it happened to you?".

    Which, in this regard is kinda stupid. Cows used for milking have been living the time of their lives ever since we started breeding them.
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    Originally posted by Comrade Snuggles
    So PETA advocates turning human women into cattle.
    Ohh please, that's one of the most absurd leaps I've seen on these forums. Pumping some breast milk while you watch TV doesn't sound like being cattle, it sounds like an easy way to make a little extra cash.
    You've just proven signature advertising works!

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    I'd buy it. But I want to see a photo of the woman's face on the carton.

    She's gotta be pretty. I have standards.
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    Originally posted by Seedle
    Ohh please, that's one of the most absurd leaps I've seen on these forums. Pumping some breast milk while you watch TV doesn't sound like being cattle, it sounds like an easy way to make a little extra cash.
    It may not sound like being cattle to you, but that's what it is. You're turning yourself into a cow.
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    Originally posted by Comrade Snuggles
    It may not sound like being cattle to you, but that's what it is. You're turning yourself into a cow.
    No, turning yourself into a cow would be living in a pen, eating from a trough, and letting someone else determining when and with whom you breed. This is just using your body's natural productive capacity to make money. Does selling your hair for wigs make you a sheep? Does giving blood make you a lab animal? There's communist ideas that have some basis in reality, and then there's just delusional nutjobbery. This is the latter. I thought you had more sense.
    You've just proven signature advertising works!

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    Originally posted by Comrade Snuggles


    It may not sound like being cattle to you, but that's what it is. You're turning yourself into a cow.
    Hey, they could be like those happy California cows.
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    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
    Dairy products have been linked to juvenile diabetes, allergies, constipation, obesity, and prostate and ovarian cancer.


    Uh... what? Most studies showing cow milk is bad have big flaws and as long as you go for low fat milk, obesity ain't a problem (and may be reduced!). Also cow milk has positive health effects (may reduce cancer & coronary heart disease).

    The problem with switching to human milk... who is going to be providing it on a mass scale? Should the PETA person just advocate Soy or Rice Milk instead?
    PETA loves to make wild claims. The vast majority of the stuff they put out is just designed to get attention for themselves.
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    Originally posted by FrostyBoy


    The health benefits would be a bonus, but who is going to do the quality check?
    What health bonuses? You do realize that and I quote:

    If mother's milk wasn't presented in such a lovely package it would be unfit for human consumptions.
    The average western women has lots of pesticides and toxins in her, I bet more than the average cow.
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    Originally posted by Seedle


    No, turning yourself into a cow would be living in a pen, eating from a trough, and letting someone else determining when and with whom you breed.

    Actually if there was big demand for human milk this is what would happen in the third world, its not like inhumane working conditions aren't present already.
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    this thread is disgusting
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    Originally posted by MarkG
    PETA is disgusting.
    Fixed.
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    that works for me as well
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    Peta, Paul and Mary was great in the 1960ies I read.
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    Poor women would earn a quick and easy extra.

    Why are you all against poor women?
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    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
    The problem with switching to human milk... who is going to be providing it on a mass scale?

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    I dunno, I've seen some big human udders in the net... This one russian girl, for example, could propably produce enough for a small European nation on her own...
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