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  • #16
    Re: Re: Re: Re: Technology can't solve all our problems

    Originally posted by Dry

    Ohohooo, immortality...
    Should we deviate from the topic and debate on immortality and its implications?
    life extension =/= immortality


    It would still be very possible for you to die, just extremely unlikely (if for example the database you are stored at is corrupted beyond repair or if the Sun goes nova).


    And yes we can divert if you would like to.

    I think the no. 1 cause of death would be suicide, not suicide of today (which is almost always a most unplesant act and done in a unhappy state) but more along the lines of people feeling they have fulfilled their purpose in life or people who want to see the afterlive (if religion still exists).


    Also such a society would be much wiser and responsible. All human endeavor is shortsighted and is only undertaken if it is produces some benefit in our own lifetime. With unlimited lifetimes we would all become more responsible, since any mess we make won't be our kid's or grandchildren problem but our own problem.

    Sure people will still make stupid individual decisions, but as a community the tone of political debate will change for the better considerably.

    Your very survival would become tied to the survival of humanity or at least human civilization. Your future prosperity would be chained to the prosperity of all.



    In fact once we have indefinite life span or at least very long life spans (500 to a few K years) capitalism may be replaced by something better.
    Last edited by Heraclitus; September 17, 2008, 07:42.
    Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
    The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
    The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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    • #17
      Re: Re: Re: Re: Technology can't solve all our problems

      Originally posted by Dry

      Equals avoiding, bypassing the problem, not solving it.
      It does for the case of death of loved ones


      But are you honestly telling me that after the abouser is caught and punished that it isn't better for you not remember the sexual abused you suffered as a child? (you would still know it happened unless you choose to wipe that too)



      If you think not, then maybe the emotional management enhancement circuitry I proposed is the solution.
      Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
      The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
      The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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      • #18
        Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave

        other than that... what would life be without problems... if we don't have them we make them = teh human
        And we solve them again only to replace them with others... isn't that the fun of being alive?


        I do not have to worry about starving, now I can worry about more and more abstract things until I start worrying about the long term implication of entropy and how to solve that.... and one day I solve the final question and perhaps make a new universe, that is better than ours but has new problems ect.


        And the more we progress along these lines the less of a chore solving problems becomes and the more they become fun exercises of creativity.
        Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
        The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
        The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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        • #19
          maybe God is really like us
          Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
          GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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          • #20
            Indeed. Wouldn't it be funny if my rational opinion about technology and faith in progress would lead me to believe that Jesus is our savior and was a sent to our civ by the creator of the universe who realized he screwed up a bit with his last model of tiny universe that solves the problem of entropy (tm) and needs to patch it, only to clearly see a milenia later that he introduced new bugs and decides he will stop send new patches every few centuries and stop talking with the users so he can focus on developing the final build.




            Also does that mean that we should start working on a unofficial patch in case he stops supporting this universe?
            Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
            The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
            The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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            • #21
              Re: Re: Technology can't solve all our problems

              Originally posted by Dry

              Tell me how will technology solves psychological traumas?
              How can it solve broken hearts?
              Loss of a beloved?
              By Sciencing the hell out of those problems, thats how.

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              • #22
                Re: Re: Re: Technology can't solve all our problems

                Originally posted by Whoha


                By Sciencing the hell out of those problems, thats how.
                That is closer to what I call knowledge, not technology.
                Psychology is knowledge, almost (maybe one day full) science, but not technology.
                The books that the world calls immoral are the books that show the world its own shame. Oscar Wilde.

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                • #23
                  Robots replace us all: all human problems solved

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                  • #24
                    Re: Technology can't solve all our problems

                    Originally posted by Heraclitus
                    Which genious said that?
                    I'm infamous for my bad spelling, but DAMN!

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                    • #25
                      To qoute Ron White, "You can't fix stupid".
                      "Beauty is not in the face...Beauty is a light in the heart." - Kahlil Gibran
                      "The greatest happiness of life is the conviction that we are loved; loved for ourselves, or rather, loved in spite of ourselves" - Victor Hugo
                      "It is noble to be good; it is still nobler to teach others to be good -- and less trouble." - Mark Twain

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                      • #26
                        Maybe not....but I can perfect it!

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                        • #27
                          All technology should be focused on creating better ways to download porn as fast as possible.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Re: Technology can't solve all our problems

                            Originally posted by Zkribbler


                            I'm infamous for my bad spelling, but DAMN!
                            That's how we spell it in Slovenia.
                            Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                            The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                            The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Kirnwaffen
                              To qoute Ron White, "You can't fix stupid".
                              Options:

                              Genetic engineering
                              Cybernetics
                              Virtual Reality (just lock the stupid people into a simulation )
                              Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                              The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                              The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                              • #30
                                Re: Re: Re: Re: Technology can't solve all our problems

                                Originally posted by Dry

                                That is closer to what I call knowledge, not technology.
                                Psychology is knowledge, almost (maybe one day full) science, but not technology.
                                Science can solve all our problems.



                                That is more along the lines of what I meant. Since to get advanced technology you by default have to do science.
                                Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                                The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                                The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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