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    Letter to the mapmaker......

    Please find below a draft of the letter I propose to send to CyberShy when I return from my long weekend away. If anyone has any objections, clarifications, or improvements etc that they would like to make please do so before 10.00GMT on Sunday 13th April.....

    Civ4 BtS Team Democracy Game

    Map Type : Terra

    # of Old World Landmasses : 2 Old World Landmasses - Inter-navigable by workboats, galleys or triremes.

    # of New World landmasses : Random New World Landmasses - A variety of large and small landmasses, number and size to be decided by CyberShy, the mapmaker. New world navigable from the old world only by Caravels and beyond. Not to be reachable by massive cultural borders and coastal vessels. New World landmasses can be inter-navigable either by coastal or ocean going vessels, depending on the whim of CyberShy, the mapmaker.

    Map Size : Standard Map Size - Subject to final numbers of team participating.....

    Climate : Temperate Climate
    Sea Level : Medium Sea Level

    Pitboss Turn Style : Simultaneous
    Era : Ancient *
    World Wrap : Cylindrical
    Resources : Standard

    Pitboss Turn Timer Duration : 48 hours
    Advanced Start : No - Unticked *
    No City Razing : Unticked - Cities can be razed after capturing them.
    No City Flipping From Culture : Unticked - Cities can convert peacefully from culture.
    City Flipping After Conquest : Unticked - Cities which have been captured via conquest can't convert peacefully back to a previous owner.

    Game Speed : Normal
    No Barbarians : Unticked - Barbarians or animals will appear
    Raging Barbarians : Unticked - Normal barbarian aggression and activity.
    Unrestricted Leaders : No - Unticked *
    Random Personalities : N/A - Unticked *
    Choose Religions : Locked vote - CyberShy, the mapmaker to decide, ticked or unticked...
    No Tech Trading : Unticked - Technologies can be traded via diplomacy.
    No Tech Brokering : Locked vote - CyberShy, the mapmaker to decide, ticked or unticked...
    No Vassal States : Unticked - Enable Vassal State Treaties

    Permanent Alliances : No - Unticked *
    Always War : No - Unticked *
    Always Peace : No - Unticked *
    One-City Challenge : No - Unticked *
    Permanent War Or Peace : No - Unticked *
    New Random Seed on Reload : No - Unticked *
    Lock Modified Assets : N/A - Unticked *

    Aggressive AI : Locked vote - CyberShy, the mapmaker to decide, ticked or unticked...
    Require Complete Kills : Unticked - Must kill all cities only to wipe out an enemy civilization.
    No Tribal Villages : Unticked : Random map generator does place tribal villages on the map.
    No Random Events : Unticked : Random events do occur.
    Difficulty Level : Prince

    Time Victory : Yes - Ticked *
    Conquest Victory : Yes - Ticked *
    Domination Victory : Yes - Ticked *
    Cultural Victory : Yes - Ticked *
    Space Race Victory : Yes - Ticked *
    Diplomatic Victory : Yes - Ticked *

    * = Presumed by myself to be a 'minor' or 'given' setting and not 'worthy' of putting to the voting process.
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    From what I can see - looks good.
    Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.

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    Originally posted by Beta
    From what I can see - looks good.
    I don't know why he saved my life. Maybe in those last moments he loved life more than he ever had before. Not just his life - anybody's life, my life. All he'd wanted were the same answers the rest of us want. Where did I come from? Where am I going? How long have I got? All I could do was sit there and watch him die.

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    Just sent PM to CyberShy :


    Hey CyberShy,

    Please find below our final map settings for this BtS Pitboss Team DG. If you have any questions regarding these settings please let me know as soon as possible.

    Civ4 BtS Team Democracy Game

    Map Type : Terra

    # of Old World Landmasses : 2 Old World Landmasses - Inter-navigable by workboats, galleys or triremes.

    # of New World landmasses : Random New World Landmasses - A variety of large and small landmasses, number and size to be decided by CyberShy, the mapmaker. New world navigable from the old world only by Caravels and beyond. Not to be reachable by massive cultural borders and coastal vessels. New World landmasses can be inter-navigable either by coastal or ocean going vessels, depending on the whim of CyberShy, the mapmaker.

    Map Size : Standard Map Size - Subject to final numbers of team participating.....

    Climate : Temperate Climate
    Sea Level : Medium Sea Level

    Pitboss Turn Style : Simultaneous
    Era : Ancient *
    World Wrap : Cylindrical
    Resources : Standard

    Pitboss Turn Timer Duration : 48 hours
    Advanced Start : No - Unticked *
    No City Razing : Unticked - Cities can be razed after capturing them.
    No City Flipping From Culture : Unticked - Cities can convert peacefully from culture.
    City Flipping After Conquest : Unticked - Cities which have been captured via conquest can't convert peacefully back to a previous owner.

    Game Speed : Normal
    No Barbarians : Unticked - Barbarians or animals will appear
    Raging Barbarians : Unticked - Normal barbarian aggression and activity.
    Unrestricted Leaders : No - Unticked *
    Random Personalities : N/A - Unticked *
    Choose Religions : Locked vote - CyberShy, the mapmaker to decide, ticked or unticked...
    No Tech Trading : Unticked - Technologies can be traded via diplomacy.
    No Tech Brokering : Locked vote - CyberShy, the mapmaker to decide, ticked or unticked...
    No Vassal States : Unticked - Enable Vassal State Treaties

    Permanent Alliances : No - Unticked *
    Always War : No - Unticked *
    Always Peace : No - Unticked *
    One-City Challenge : No - Unticked *
    Permanent War Or Peace : No - Unticked *
    New Random Seed on Reload : No - Unticked *
    Lock Modified Assets : N/A - Unticked *

    Aggressive AI : Locked vote - CyberShy, the mapmaker to decide, ticked or unticked...
    Require Complete Kills : Unticked - Must kill all cities only to wipe out an enemy civilization.
    No Tribal Villages : Unticked : Random map generator does place tribal villages on the map.
    No Random Events : Unticked : Random events do occur.
    Difficulty Level : Prince

    Time Victory : Yes - Ticked *
    Conquest Victory : Yes - Ticked *
    Domination Victory : Yes - Ticked *
    Cultural Victory : Yes - Ticked *
    Space Race Victory : Yes - Ticked *
    Diplomatic Victory : Yes - Ticked *

    * = Presumed by myself to be a 'minor' or 'given' setting and not 'worthy' of putting to the voting process.

    Please be advised, team civilization choices will be heading your way in the next week from :

    The Rabbits
    Team Banana
    Templars
    Realms Beyond
    PAL
    Imperio

    Cheers once again for you help,

    Rob
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    Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity.

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    I don't know why he saved my life. Maybe in those last moments he loved life more than he ever had before. Not just his life - anybody's life, my life. All he'd wanted were the same answers the rest of us want. Where did I come from? Where am I going? How long have I got? All I could do was sit there and watch him die.

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    sounds pro robbo, you rock,now, lets play some company of heroes.......

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    Not until you've posted in all The Rabbit private forum threads!!!!

    Chop chop, my Panzers are flanking you as we speak........
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    Re: Letter to the mapmaker......

    Originally posted by RobWorham
    Please find below a draft of the letter I propose to send to CyberShy when I return from my long weekend away. If anyone has any objections, clarifications, or improvements etc that they would like to make please do so before 10.00GMT on Sunday 13th April.....

    Civ4 BtS Team Democracy Game

    Map Type : Terra

    # of Old World Landmasses : 2 Old World Landmasses - Inter-navigable by workboats, galleys or triremes.

    # of New World landmasses : Random New World Landmasses - A variety of large and small landmasses, number and size to be decided by CyberShy, the mapmaker. New world navigable from the old world only by Caravels and beyond. Not to be reachable by massive cultural borders and coastal vessels. New World landmasses can be inter-navigable either by coastal or ocean going vessels, depending on the whim of CyberShy, the mapmaker.

    Map Size : Standard Map Size - Subject to final numbers of team participating.....

    Climate : Temperate Climate
    Sea Level : Medium Sea Level

    Pitboss Turn Style : Simultaneous
    Era : Ancient *
    World Wrap : Cylindrical
    Resources : Standard

    Pitboss Turn Timer Duration : 48 hours
    Advanced Start : No - Unticked *
    No City Razing : Unticked - Cities can be razed after capturing them.
    No City Flipping From Culture : Unticked - Cities can convert peacefully from culture.
    City Flipping After Conquest : Unticked - Cities which have been captured via conquest can't convert peacefully back to a previous owner.

    Game Speed : Normal
    No Barbarians : Unticked - Barbarians or animals will appear
    Raging Barbarians : Unticked - Normal barbarian aggression and activity.
    Unrestricted Leaders : No - Unticked *
    Random Personalities : N/A - Unticked *
    Choose Religions : Locked vote - CyberShy, the mapmaker to decide, ticked or unticked...
    No Tech Trading : Unticked - Technologies can be traded via diplomacy.
    No Tech Brokering : Locked vote - CyberShy, the mapmaker to decide, ticked or unticked...
    No Vassal States : Unticked - Enable Vassal State Treaties

    Permanent Alliances : No - Unticked *
    Always War : No - Unticked *
    Always Peace : No - Unticked *
    One-City Challenge : No - Unticked *
    Permanent War Or Peace : No - Unticked *
    New Random Seed on Reload : No - Unticked *
    Lock Modified Assets : N/A - Unticked *

    Aggressive AI : Locked vote - CyberShy, the mapmaker to decide, ticked or unticked...
    Require Complete Kills : Unticked - Must kill all cities only to wipe out an enemy civilization.
    No Tribal Villages : Unticked : Random map generator does place tribal villages on the map.
    No Random Events : Unticked : Random events do occur.
    Difficulty Level : Prince

    Time Victory : Yes - Ticked *
    Conquest Victory : Yes - Ticked *
    Domination Victory : Yes - Ticked *
    Cultural Victory : Yes - Ticked *
    Space Race Victory : Yes - Ticked *
    Diplomatic Victory : Yes - Ticked *

    * = Presumed by myself to be a 'minor' or 'given' setting and not 'worthy' of putting to the voting process.

    Is this exactly what went into the final map?

    Also, what about Agressive AI and Tech Brokering?

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    Hmmm Fair Comment

    And the other issues left to Cybershy.
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    Perhaps the settings the map maker chose on the ones that were left to him should be listed?
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    Re: Re: Letter to the mapmaker......

    Originally posted by Whip[lash



    Is this exactly what went into the final map?
    Quoted text in post #4 is exactly what went to CyberShy.
    Let your every day be full of joy, love the child that holds your hand, let your wife delight in your embrace, for these alone are the concerns of humanity.
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    Originally posted by joncnunn
    Perhaps the settings the map maker chose on the ones that were left to him should be listed?
    Is Geo's post in post #13 enough, or would you like CyberShy to post what he chose, if he can still remember..
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    Well, your letter to him left a few things as optional for the mapmaker to decide, like tech brokering.

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    Yes, we couldn't reach a decision as teams so it was left to the mapmaker to decide when he designed the map.

    From the looks of the in-game game details screen he went for :

    Choose religions
    No tech brokering
    Normal aggression AI
    Let your every day be full of joy, love the child that holds your hand, let your wife delight in your embrace, for these alone are the concerns of humanity.
    The BtS Pitboss Team Democracy Game has just started!!!
    Come and test your metal in the Apolyton Civ4 Beyond the Sword Tri-League Tournament
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