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    You can think what you want to think. I think this is bull****.

    GRAPEVINE (CBS 11 News) ― A fight over language in a Grapevine school has gotten so heated that some parents are pulling their children out of class.

    The parents are claiming that students are being forced to learn Spanish, while children of immigrants aren't being forced to learn or speak English.

    The signs posted around Timberline Elementary are done in both English and Spanish, and so are the school letters and other information.

    Officials with the Grapevine-Colleyville Independent School District say it's their duty to educate all students. But some white students and their parents say they are now the minority and are left with no choice, but to fight.

    Kaitlyn O'Pry, a fifth grader at Timberline, is protesting her school. "If I didn't take Spanish, then I'm probably going to fail," the 10 year-old said.

    Kaitlyn is not alone. Ashley Allison's mom has pulled her out of Spanish class each day, to study in the library. "I'm not real happy with the issue," said Ashley's mom, Leigh Allison.

    Kaitlyn has begun circulating a letter, which many students have signed, opposing the elementary schools mandatory Spanish classes.

    Some parents say accommodations are being made for a growing Hispanic population. Kaitlyn claims that, "Over half of our school has doubled in Spanish population." Kaitlyn's mom, Julie Swartz, says the school isn't focusing on the entire student population. "I think they're concentrating way too much on accommodating the Spanish speaking kids," she told TXA 21 News.

    In 2001 Hispanics made up 33-percent of Timberline Elementary enrollment, with white students accounting for 60-percent. Now in 2008, Hispanics account for more than half of the student body, and white enrollment is down to 36-percent.

    The girls and their parents have met with their principal, the Grapevine-Colleyville School Board, and the superintendent. The opposition is garnering other support, including that of Dora Deleon. "This is a country America, with English. So we supposed to learn to speak English," said the concerned Hispanic mother, whose grandchildren attend Timberline.

    Kaitlyn's stepfather, Patrick Swartz, says, "They should not be forced to take Spanish."

    But there are some parents who embrace the Spanish initiatives at Timberline. "It develops our kids," said parent Tia Green.

    The girls and their supporters say they're not giving up the fight.

    Officials with the Grapevine-Colleyville School District stress that Spanish has been long been a part of school curriculum and released a statement to TXA 21 News that said in part – "We are currently reviewing our world language curriculum to further benefit students, within the resources available. It is our privilege to educate any and all children who attend Grapevine-Colleyville ISD."
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  • #2
    I think learning of foreign language is useful, but it doesn't have to be Spanish.

    I am learning Arabic on my own right now.
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    • #3
      I think learning of foreign language is useful, but it doesn't have to be Spanish.


      Not all school districts have the resources to offer a lot of languages.

      Forcing elementary school children to learn a second language

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      • #4
        No, not . As an elective, sure. Not a required course.
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        He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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        • #5
          It's far, far easier to learn a second language in early childhood.

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          • #6
            Be that as it may, it's still not right to mandate it.
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            He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Kuciwalker
              Forcing elementary school children to learn a second language
              Indeed

              Half-assed execution of good ideas
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              • #8
                It's not ok, and who died and made Mexico king? Why not Cantonese? Why not teach the Mexicans to comprende ingles? What a concept.
                Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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                He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SlowwHand
                  Why not teach the Mexicans to comprende ingles? What a concept.
                  I agree.
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                  For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                  • #10
                    mandate that all of the students have to master english and spanish and everybody wins. The parents should be glad their kids get this chance to master a foreign language so early.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by SlowwHand
                      It's not ok, and who died and made Mexico king? Why not Cantonese? Why not teach the Mexicans to comprende ingles? What a concept.
                      it doesn't really matter which language but surely it's easier and less expensive to hire teachers qualified to speak spanish as it's so common here.

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                      • #12
                        There's no reason to oppose this, and not oppose all mandatory subjects in schools. Essentially, they are teaching kids something which may or may not be useful to them particularly, but has a clear pedagogical justification. Becoming fluent in a second language makes it significantly easier to become fluent in other languages.

                        Also, where do you draw the line? If they pick two languages, do you cry foul and insist on four? In my opinion, we should untie this from any larger debate on immigration, and look at the facts on the ground. American schools unmitigatingly suck when it comes to foreign languages. This is, in large part, due to a lack of immersion, and an absence of early exposure. The program in question provides both. And there are clear potential advantages to students who become fluent in Spanish (or Chinese, or, to a lesser extent, French/other languages that no one cares about).
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Admiral
                          There's no reason to oppose this, and not oppose all mandatory subjects in schools.
                          I would think the shear 1/2 assed way it is being done would be enough.
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                          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DinoDoc
                            I would think the shear 1/2 assed way it is being done would be enough.
                            unlike the 1/2 assed way everything else the schools do gets done?

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                            • #15
                              Well if your going to force the Yanqui population of the school to learn Spanish (a good idea ), why exclude the Hispanic population from mandatory English class (a bad idea )?
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                              For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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