So does Asher by all accounts.Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Asher: fix your 360 already, I want some 4-person coop(most of my friends suck at FPS
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Speaking of Xboxes, new SKUs for the holidays:
* October 9: The Xbox 360 Pro package will come with Forza 2 and Marvel Ultimate Alliance as pack-ins. The games will be in one case, similar to the Sega GT 2002/Jet Grind Radio Future combo disc that was packed-in with the original Xbox for a time, but in this case each game will come on its own DVD.
* October 23: The Elite will get the same package. No price drops on either system, you just get two free games with it.
* New Xbox Core Sku "at the end of October" that will include a new version of the system with an HDMI port, wireless controller, 256MB memory card, and five arcade games on a physical disc. The games will be Boom-Boom Rocket, Pac-man, Uno, Feeding Frenzy, and Luxor 2. This package is expected to retail for the normal Core price of $279.99.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
So does Asher by all accounts.Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Asher: fix your 360 already, I want some 4-person coop(most of my friends suck at FPS
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By Verto's account. And that was hard to play for several reasons:
1) Verto does not act in a systematic way
2) He was blaring his Jesus music so loud I can't hear what's going on
3) He kept screaming "REPENT!" every time he shot me
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
I got the Halo 3 360 (for HDMI) and I think it's got the new chips too, since it's not loud at all.Originally posted by Asher
My 360 has been being "fixed" for weeks. Every time I call I'm told it'll ship in "24 to 36 hours" -- every day I've called for a week and I've been told that...
Apparently it's hard to get ahold of brand new consoles for refurbishments due to the holiday retail buildup.
The good news is the new console has the new motherboard + HDMI, whenever it gets here.

LOL
You bought the Halo 3 360?
I love me some Halo, but damn is that beast UGLY!
And re: the new chips, apparently the 65nm chips are out in the wild. Some have them, some don't. By the end of holiday all will have them.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
You bought the Halo 3 360?
I love me some Halo, but damn is that beast UGLY!
I agree, but it was $30 extra for an HDMI-out, which I thought was okay.

What? The 360 Premiums in your region didn't have HDMI? They've been available here for a while now.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

Why are 90% of the good xbox games shooters.

Good games in general. Compare all of the next-gen consoles.
And I've no idea. Maybe it's cause they actually get budgets?
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

have you tried re4, specifically? The controls are quite better than earlier wii attempts. Its really fluid to aim by pointing.Originally posted by Asher
I would not buy the game if they brutalized it with such twitchy controls.
You found it easy to use, I found it frustrating, inaccurate, and unreliable. That kind of **** is fine for a casual Wii game where you're playing fake bowling, but when you're playing a real FPS game -- no!![]()

That's the one that I got. Premium + hdmi. I wish I had more hd space, after downloading a few things though, I didn't realize how much space the os takes up. Should have got an elite.Originally posted by Asher
What? The 360 Premiums in your region didn't have HDMI? They've been available here for a while now.
None where I was. Shrug.Originally posted by Asher
What? The 360 Premiums in your region didn't have HDMI? They've been available here for a while now.

Would be nice if you could find more than a handful of fun games that aren't just about mowing down hordes of enemies.Originally posted by Asher
Good games in general. Compare all of the next-gen consoles.
And I've no idea. Maybe it's cause they actually get budgets?

Amazon.comOriginally posted by Kuciwalker
None where I was. Shrug.
You can specify, there?

Amazon has been selling HDMI 360s for a while (it does specify HDMI). To be fair shipping would have been about $20.

Did you get the MS extended warranty? The base is 1 year....I'm debating it, even though I know I should throw in the money.Originally posted by Asher
That's news to me. I've owned my Xbox 360 since launch in Nov 2005, and they're giving me a whole new console (not a refurbished/repaired like usual).
Wrong answer - the correct one is that the Xbox 360 line-up has a good spread of games in different genres - Forza 2, Oblivion, GH2, PGR3, NHL08, Eternal Sonata and C&C3 for instance all well regarded games with consistently high scores. And that's just off the top of my head - there are others.Originally posted by Asher
Good games in general. Compare all of the next-gen consoles.
And I've no idea. Maybe it's cause they actually get budgets?
And 'shooters' are not really alike anyway. There's a big difference between a cover based TPS (like Gears) and Halo 3 (more standard FPS), and hybrids like Bioshock.
Omg I'm being more fanboyish than Asher.![]()

What do you think of Halo 3 so far?
Also, that's not a lot of games you listed. The real standouts for the console -- GRAW 1-2, Rainbow 6 Vegas, GOW, Halo 3, Bioshock..are all FPS.

Yes, I own RE4 and I completed it (I skipped it on GCN).Originally posted by asleepathewheel
have you tried re4, specifically? The controls are quite better than earlier wii attempts. Its really fluid to aim by pointing.
It's not fluid, it's twitchy -- like every other Wii game I've played. It's not a software thing, it's a cheap hardware and bad IR-based design thing.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

I never buy extended warranties.Originally posted by asleepathewheel
Did you get the MS extended warranty? The base is 1 year....I'm debating it, even though I know I should throw in the money.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

Those aren't the real standouts. I suggest you do your research, sir!Originally posted by Wiglaf
What do you think of Halo 3 so far?
Also, that's not a lot of games you listed. The real standouts for the console -- GRAW 1-2, Rainbow 6 Vegas, GOW, Halo 3, Bioshock..are all FPS.
/firm
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
I'm up to level 5 and it's fun so far but I'm not being blown away like with, say, the Gears campaign. I'll post more complete thoughts when I'm done and have tried co-op, which looks great.Originally posted by Wiglaf
What do you think of Halo 3 so far?

What are teh standouts, then?Originally posted by Asher
Those aren't the real standouts. I suggest you do your research, sir!
/firm
Those are all standouts for sure, but no more than my list, which was about the same size as yours. You said 90% of good games were shooters and this just isn't true for any definition of good.Originally posted by Wiglaf
Also, that's not a lot of games you listed. The real standouts for the console -- GRAW 1-2, Rainbow 6 Vegas, GOW, Halo 3, Bioshock..are all FPS.
Plus, as I said there is variety between shooters as well, which undermines your argument further. Halo, Bioshock, RSV and Gears are all very different games.

I think those games have much higher sales than the others. I am just saying that it's interesting most popular games involve shooting crap.

So you just demanded a new console? Surprised they didn't say no.Originally posted by Asher
I never buy extended warranties.

Actually, they offered it before I could demand it.![]()
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

You think GRAW/R6 sold more than Oblivion and Forza 2?Originally posted by Wiglaf
I think those games have much higher sales than the others. I am just saying that it's interesting most popular games involve shooting crap.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
I believe MS extended the warranties on all XBox360s some time ago, to a couple of years, due to the RING OF DEATH or whatever.
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