AHL- Apolyton Hockey League 07/08: Draft II

[Asher]

All in favour of BAPAYing notyoueither? I'm sure he'll get over the fact that I don't like it when he wastes everyone's time, eventually.

Let's just give him Holmqvist and continue. He can decide if he wants to autopilot or not later.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Asher
All in favour of BAPAYing notyoueither? I'm sure he'll get over the fact that I don't like it when he wastes everyone's time, eventually.

Let's just give him Holmqvist and continue. He can decide if he wants to autopilot or not later.

NOT in favour at this time--

[snoopy369]

If NYE is serious about leaving the league, then BAPAY is the only choice...

I think at this point we need to wait until morning. It's not like there isn't only 3 picks left, anyway.

[Asher]

How long should we give him then?

Edit: Morning is fine for me considering no one else will be on anyway, since we've pissed away so much time.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Flubber
This is silly

We are in the last round and as someone said, people need not ever talk to each other again

Now my view is that you both should continue here but absent that, its also my view that the person not willing to continue should leave. Put simply, Asher has been his mildly annoying self. I thought his position and petulant behavior was silly but nothing to get in a snit about.

So my position is simple-- I intend to play this league with as many of the current participants as wish to continue

Asher is more than mildly annoying when he wants to be.

I suppose it is all good, if you are not one of the targets.

In case no-one noticed, I have decided that I will not play the old game. I'm pretty serious about it, and I'm not sure why I should leave a league that I put a lot of work into because I've decided I won't put up with poor behaviour.

[Ninot]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Asher is more than mildly annoying when he wants to be.

I suppose it is all good, if you are not one of the targets.

In case no-one noticed, I have decided that I will not play the old game. I'm pretty serious about it, and I'm not sure why I should leave a league that I put a lot of work into because I've decided I won't put up with poor behaviour.

When Asher found something unnaceptable years ago, he left. Now it's on you.

You knew he would be in this league, what did you think would be different from previous years?

[Asher]

Originally posted by Ninot
When Asher found something unnaceptable years ago, he left. Now it's on you.

I'll note that I took the responsible route by appointing someone to take over my team (even giving access to my yahoo account) so as to not hold up the league.

[Ninot]

Originally posted by Asher

I'll note that I took the responsible route by appointing someone to take over my team so as to not hold up the league.

I remember

[Asher]

Originally posted by Ninot
I remember :d

I knew you would. And a fine job you did!

[Asher]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Asher is more than mildly annoying when he wants to be.

I suppose it is all good, if you are not one of the targets.

In case no-one noticed, I have decided that I will not play the old game. I'm pretty serious about it, and I'm not sure why I should leave a league that I put a lot of work into because I've decided I won't put up with poor behaviour.

You can't play the victim card when you intentionally provoke comments by being disruptive to the league with your "picking habits". I'm far from the only person annoyed by how you've approached several picks in this draft. I find it exceptionally hard to believe you've had no time over the past several days to look at the available goaltenders. You've participated in various discussions all over the site. You've had opportunities to prepare, you knew it pissed me off (and others) when you posted "I need a few hours to pick" during prime-time, and you did the exact same thing again. You are not the victim here, nye.

On the other hand, I've been extremely prompt with my picks as well as with picks I've held for other people.

I guess we need to decide which is poor behaviour and which isn't.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Ninot


When Asher found something unnaceptable years ago, he left. Now it's on you.

That my view. Asher has not done anywhere near enough to be expelled here IMHO. ... Not even in the ballpark. If NYE wishes to leave, its his choice.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Ninot


When Asher found something unnaceptable years ago, he left. Now it's on you.

You knew he would be in this league, what did you think would be different from previous years?

Well, to be honest, the fact that he wasn't going to be posting...

and then an undertaking he made the terms of which I do not know, but that seemed to be a guarantee of good behaviour.

It appears I was mistaken on both counts.

[Asher]

Originally posted by notyoueither


Well, to be honest, the fact that he wasn't going to be posting...

and then an undertaking he made the terms of which I do not know, but that seemed to be a guarantee of good behaviour.

It appears I was mistaken on both counts.

The terms, for what it's worth, is that the administration will apply the same short leash to people who antagonize me as well as myself. It's why I haven't been banned, every time I've had a personal attack thrown at me, the administration have stepped in to ensure it won't happen again.

I've even gotten messages praising my good behaviour and how impressed they are.

I think when you wake up tomorrow, nye, you will realize that it is not I that is inhibiting this league from making progress. You may find me annoying, but that doesn't excuse what you are doing. There are 11 people other than you in this league, and not one of them is pleased with what you are doing.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by notyoueither


Asher is more than mildly annoying when he wants to be.

Only if you let him be. I just don't care enough to let most things bother me. . . and in fairess NYE you are not an innocent bystander.

So newsflash-- Asher has a posting style that is borderline rude-- you knew that when he joined and to me, the time to make the "him or me" ultimatum was at sign-up not now

[snoopy369]

NYE... if you want to leave the league that's your call. You need to decide what you're doing here, but you can't very well require Asher to leave; him being a pain in the rear for you not picking, although annoying I'm sure, is far, far less than at least a dozen posters on this site, and not dramatically different from several respected posters in other fantasy leagues.

I would implore you to at least pick your goalie and not force us to BAPAY you; then decide if you can go through this year with the ignore button on, or if you need to turn it over to someone else that's fine. There are ten of us here not named Asher that would like you to make a pick though, and cutting off your nose to spite your face isn't the way to go when it's real people you're talking about...

[Asher]

Look, nye, I'm sorry I become agitated when people, er, take their time picking. I'm not the most patient man.

Please select a player so we can all move on and put this behind us. I would still like for you to compete in this pool.

[notyoueither]

This is like trying to read tea leaves on the bottom of the Pacific while bobbing around in a fishing boat in a storm.

1.1 Asher: Sidney Crosby - C (PIT)
1.2 Sparrowhawk: Roberto Luongo - G (VAN)
1.3 mrboo123: Martin Brodeur - G (NJ)
1.4 notyoueither: Joe Thornton - C (SJ)
1.5 Imran Siddiqui: Miikka Kiprusoff - G (CAL)
1.6 Kontiki: Dany Heatley - RW (OTT)
1.7 snoopy369: Marian Hossa - RW (ATL)
1.8 Jonny: Jaromir Jagr - RW (NYR)
1.9 Flubber: Vincent Lecavalier - C (TB)
1.10 Ninot: Alexander Ovechkin - LW (WAS)
1.11 Guynemer: Jarome Iginla - RW (CAL)
1.12 Tingkai: Joe Sakic - C (COL)

2.1 Tingkai: Niklas Backstrom - G (MIN)
2.2 Guynemer: Olli Jokinen - C (FLA)
2.3 Ninot: Jean-Sebastien Giguere - G (ANA)
2.4 Flubber:Evgeni Nabokov - G (SJ )
2.5 Jonny: Marty Turco - G (DAL)
2.6 snoopy369: Dominic Hasek - G (DET)
2.7 Kontiki: Henrik Lundqvist - G (NYR)
2.8 Imran Siddiqui: Evgeni Malkin - LW (PIT)
2.9 notyoueither: Marian Gaborik- RW (MIN)
2.10 mrboo123: Jason Spezza - C (OTT)
2.11 Sparrowhawk: Pavel Datsyuk - C (DET)
2.12 Asher: Marc-Andre Fleury - G (PIT)

3.1 Asher: Martin St. Louis - RW (TB)
3.2 Sparrowhawk: Jonathan Cheechoo - RW (SJ)
3.3 mrboo123: Simon Gagne - LW (PHI)
3.4 notyoueither: Ilya Kovalchuk - LW (ATL)
3.5 Imran Siddiqui: Daniel Alfredsson - RW (OTT)
3.6 Kontiki: Henrik Zetterberg - LW (DET)
3.7 snoopy369: Nikolas Lidstrom - D (DET)
3.8 Jonny: Daniel Sedin - LW (VAN)
3.9 Flubber: Ray Emery - G (OTT)
3.10 Ninot: Ryan Miller - G (BUF)
3.11 Guynemer: Thomas Vanek - LW (BUF)
3.12 Tingkai: Marc Savard - C (BOS)

4.1 Tingkai: Milan Michalek - RW (SJ)
4.2 Guynemer: Rick DiPietro - G (NYI)
4.3 Ninot: Justin Williams - RW (CAR)
4.4 Flubber: Daniel Briere- C (PHI)
4.5 Jonny: Patrick Marleau - C (SJ)
4.6 snoopy369: Tomas Vokoun - G (FLA)
4.7 Kontiki: Eric Staal - C (CAR)
4.8 Imran Siddiqui: Kari Lehtonen - G (ATL)
4.9 notyoueither: Chris Pronger- D (ANH)
4.10 mrboo123: Henrik Sedin - C (VAN)
4.11 Sparrowhawk: Milan Hejduk - RW (COL)
4.12 Asher: Chris Mason - G (NSH)

5.1 Asher: Alexander Semin - LW (WAS)
5.2 Sparrowhawk: Kristian Huselius - LW (CGY)
5.3 mrboo123: Ryan Smyth - LW (COL)
5.4 notyoueither: Maxim Afinogenov - RW (BUF)
5.5 Imran Siddiqui: Andy McDonald - C (ANH)
5.6 Kontiki: Martin Biron - G (PHI)
5.7 snoopy369: Ryan Whitney - D (PIT)
5.8 Jonny: Dion Phaneuf - D (CAL)
5.9 Flubber: Alex Tanguay - LW (CAL)
5.10 Ninot: Michael Cammaleri - C (LA)
5.11 Guynemer: Sergei Gonchar - D (PIT)
5.12 Tingkai: Tomas Kaberle - D (TOR)

6.1 Tingkai: Dan Boyle - D (TB)
6.2 Guynemer: Slava Kozlov - LW (ATL)
6.3 Ninot: Michael Nylander - C (WAS)
6.4 Flubber: Andrew Brunette -LW (Col)
6.5 Jonny: Keith Tkachuk - LW (STL)
6.6 snoopy369: Mats Sundin - C (TOR)
6.7 Kontiki: Lubomir Visnovsky - D (LA)
6.8 Imran Siddiqui: Pavol Demitra - RW (MIN)
6.9 notyoueither: Brian Rolston - RW (MIN)
6.10 mrboo123: Kimmo Timonen - D (PHI)
6.11 Sparrowhawk: Alexander Frolov - LW (LA)
6.12 Asher: Bryan McCabe - D (TOR)

7.1 Asher: Paul Stastny - C (COL)
7.2 Sparrowhawk: Rod Brind'Amour - C (CAR)
7.3 mrboo123: Brian Campbell - D (BUF)
7.4 notyoueither: Brian Rafalski - D (DET)
7.5 Imran Siddiqui: Philippe Boucher - D (DAL)
7.6 Kontiki: Brad Richards -C (TB)
7.7 snoopy369: Zach Parise - LW (NJ)
7.8 Jonny: Jay Bouwmeester - D (FLA)
7.9 Flubber: Sergei Zubov - D (DAL)
7.10 Ninot: John-Michael Liles - D (COL)
7.11 Guynemer: Mathieu Schneider - D (ANH)
7.12 Tingkai: Patrick Elias - C (NJ)

8.1 Tingkai: Vesa Toskala - G (TOR)
8.2 Guynemer: Manny Legace - G (STL)
8.3 Ninot: Sheldon Souray - D (EDM)
8.4 Flubber: Jason Pominville - RW (BUF)
8.5 Jonny: Manny Fernandez - G (BOS)
8.6 snoopy369: Chris Kunitz - LW (ANA)
8.7 Kontiki: Brian Gionta - RW (NJ)
8.8 Imran Siddiqui: Paul Kariya - LW (STL)
8.9 notyoueither: Dwayne Roloson - G (EDM)
8.10 mrboo123: Martin Havlat - RW (CHI)
8.11 Sparrowhawk: Cam Ward - G (CAR)
8.12 Asher: Tomas Holmstrom - LW (DET)

9.1 Asher: Mike Knuble - RW (PHI)
9.2 Sparrowhawk: Ryan Getzlaf - C (ANA)
9.3 mrboo123: Corey Perry - RW (ANA)
9.4 notyoueither: Chris Drury - C (NYR)
9.5 Imran Siddiqui: Cristobal Huet - G (MON)
9.6 Kontiki: Brendan Shanahan - LW (NYR)
9.7 snoopy369: Peter Budaj - G (COL)
9.8 Jonny: Derek Roy - C (BUF)
9.9 Flubber: Olaf Kolzig -G (WAS)
9.10 Ninot: Mark Recchi - RW (PIT)
9.11 Guynemer: Bill Guerin - RW (NYI)
9.12 Tingkai: Erik Cole - LW (CAR)

10.1 Tingkai: Markus Naslund - RW (VAN)
10.2 Guynemer: Daymond Langkow - C (CGY)
10.3 Ninot: Rick Nash - LW (CBJ)
10.4 Flubber: Matt Carle - D (SJ)
10.5 Jonny: Alexander Radulov - RW (NSH)
10.6 snoopy369: Scott Gomez - C (NYR)
10.7 Kontiki: Marc-Andre Bergeron - D (NYI)
10.8 Imran Siddiqui: Zdeno Chara - D (BOS)
10.9 notyoueither: Ray Whitney - LW (CAR)
10.10 mrboo123: Brad Boyes - C (STL)
10.11 Sparrowhawk: Martin Erat - LW (NAS)
10.12 Asher: Jason Blake - LW (TOR)

11.1 Asher: Shea Weber - D (NSH)
11.2 Sparrowhawk: Ales Hemsky - RW (EDM)
11.3 mrboo123: Jonathan Toews - C (CHI)
11.4 notyoueither: Saku Koivu - C (MON)
11.5 Imran Siddiqui: Nathan Horton - C (FLA)
11.6 Kontiki: Martin Straka - C (NYR)
11.7 snoopy369: Viktor Kozlov - C (WAS)
11.8 Jonny: Fredrik Norrena - G (CBJ)
11.9 Flubber: Jordan Staal - C (PIT)
11.10 Ninot: Andrei Markov - D (MON)
11.11 Guynemer: Nikolai Khabibulin - G (CHI)
11.12 Tingkai: Patrice Bergeron - C (BOS)

12.1 Tingkai: Wojtek Wolski - LW (COL)
12.2 Guynemer: Wade Redden - D (OTT)
12.3 Ninot: Jonathan Bernier - G (LA)
12.4 Flubber: Kevin Bieksa -D (Van)
12.5 Jonny: David Legwand - C (NSH)
12.6 snoopy369: David Vyborny - RW (CLS)
12.7 Kontiki: Brenden Morrow - LW (DAL)
12.8 Imran Siddiqui: Alexei Zhitnik - D (ATL)
12.9 notyoueither: Jere Lehtinen - RW (DAL)
12.10 mrboo123: Erik Johnson - D (STL)
12.11 Sparrowhawk: Paul Mara - D (NYR)
12.12 Asher: JP Dumont - RW (NSH)

13.1 Asher: Anze Kopitar - C (LA)
13.2 Sparrowhawk: Scott Niedermayer - D (?ANA)
13.3 mrboo123: Tuomo Ruutu - C (CHI)
13.4 notyoueither: Filip Kuba - D (TB)
13.5 Imran Siddiqui: Petr Sykora - C (PIT)
13.6 Kontiki: Michal Rozsival - D (NYR)
13.7 snoopy369: Tom Poti - D (WAS)
13.8 Jonny: Scott Hartnell - RW (PHI)
13.9 Flubber:Todd Bertuzzi -RW (ANH)
13.10 Ninot: Jussi Jokinen - LW (DAL)
13.11 Guynemer: Jamie Langenbrunner - RW (NJ)
13.12 Tingkai: Marek Zidlicky - D (NASH)

14.1 Tingkai: Niklas Backstrom - C (WASH)
14.2 Guynemer: Mike Modano - C (DAL)
14.3 Ninot: Michael Ryder - RW (MON)
14.4 Flubber: Bobby Ryan- RW(ANH)
14.5 Jonny: Christian Ehrhoff - D (SJ)
14.6 snoopy369: Shane Doan - RW (PHO)
14.7 Kontiki: Miroslav Satan - RW (NYI)
14.8 Imran Siddiqui: Teemu Selanne - RW (ANH)
14.9 notyoueither: Jason LaBarbera - G (LA)
14.10 mrboo123:
14.11 Sparrowhawk:
14.12 Asher:

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Asher
Look, nye, I'm sorry I become agitated when people, er, take their time picking. I'm not the most patient man.

Please select a player so we can all move on and put this behind us. I would still like for you to compete in this pool.

That is the closest thing I have seen to encouraging words.

If you are genuinely willing to move on and stop the sniping I would be more than willing to continue.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by notyoueither
This is like trying to read tea leaves on the bottom of the Pacific while bobbing around in a fishing boat in a storm.

Nahh-- Its the 14th pick, if you don't like it , drop him and pick a free agent-- Heck I took massive guesses on my last two picks-- My 14th may not even make his team.

[notyoueither]

You and the guy after you don't have 6 points at stake on the choices.

Why do you think Boo didn't take me up on the offer to draft a skater while I dithered?

[notyoueither]

Interesting while you wait

All kings is mostly rapscallions.
--Mark Twain

I'm screwed!

[snoopy369]

Doesn't Boo also need a goalie?

[notyoueither]

I think that is the point.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Are we all calmed down now?

No need to jump on people. People have varying schedules and it's the last round. Someone needs a few hours, that's fine by me.

[notyoueither]

Incidently, I wasn't joking.

Kuba is the PP QB in TB now. He stands to gather a lot of points in the absense of Boyle when he feeds the pucks to Vinnie, Louis, and Moe.

I'm pretty sure there are teams with 3 goalies who are not so happy with their D. I'll also bet not all those teams carry all 3 goalies into week 3.

If not, oh well.

[Sparrowhawk]

Not sure whether to laugh or cry .

I opened Apolyton for the first time today and saw that there was something like 2-3 pages (50 posts each page) since last night when I was on and worried that I had been holding up the draft all day!

but that is not the case I see as my pick isn't even up yet.

I would PM someone my pick in order to ensure that I don't hold it up tomorrow, but I am fairly certain that Boo isn't taking him and if he does, I give permission to Asher to go ahead and make his pick and I will make a new pick after him

14.11 Sparrowhawk: Joni Pitkanen - D (EDM)

Not sure if that pick if for Asher who seems to hate the Oilers AND Pitkanen or for Pekka who took more Finns last year then I knew played in the league Actually it is more of a picking with my heart choice in that I think the Oilers can't be as bad as they are being forcasted.
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btw, regarding the 2-3 pages of bs that I read through only to realize that my pick wasn't here yet.....
Most of last year I had Asher and NYE on ignore (I find them equally annoying). If I hadn't I am not sure I would have lasted the year, or if i did, I would be from checking Yahoo, not from watching Apolyton . Nothing worse then opening this thread hoping to see some hockey talk only to have to read through 50 posts of a cat fight.

/me

[notyoueither]

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