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    Cool The "what are you reading" thread:

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    A thread to discuss and show the book that we are reading;


    I've started to read:

    Darwin's Dangerous Idea: Evolution and the Meanings of Life by Daniel C. Denett

    http://www.amazon.com/Darwins-Danger.../dp/068482471X
    One of the best descriptions of the nature and implications of Darwinian evolution ever written, it is firmly based in biological information and appropriately extrapolated to possible applications to engineering and cultural evolution. Dennett's analyses of the objections to evolutionary theory are unsurpassed. Extremely lucid, wonderfully written, and scientifically and philosophically impeccable. Highest Recommendation!
    The next book will be:

    Darwinizing Culture edited by Robert Aunger with a foreword of Daniel Denett.

    Who is an introduction to Memetics and why scholar are supporting the ideas of meme and other are against.
    http://www.amazon.com/Darwinizing-Cu...5982405&sr=8-1
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    Suite Francaise by Irene Nemirovsky

    http://www.amazon.com/Suite-Francais...5982685&sr=8-1

    From Publishers Weekly
    Starred Review. Celebrated in pre-WWII France for her bestselling fiction, the Jewish Russian-born Némirovsky was shipped to Auschwitz in the summer of 1942, months after this long-lost masterwork was composed. Némirovsky, a convert to Catholicism, began a planned five-novel cycle as Nazi forces overran northern France in 1940. This gripping "suite," collecting the first two unpolished but wondrously literary sections of a work cut short, have surfaced more than six decades after her death. The first, "Storm in June," chronicles the connecting lives of a disparate clutch of Parisians, among them a snobbish author, a venal banker, a noble priest shepherding churlish orphans, a foppish aesthete and a loving lower-class couple, all fleeing city comforts for the chaotic countryside, mere hours ahead of the advancing Germans. The second, "Dolce," set in 1941 in a farming village under German occupation, tells how peasant farmers, their pretty daughters and petit bourgeois collaborationists coexisted with their Nazi rulers. In a workbook entry penned just weeks before her arrest, Némirovsky noted that her goal was to describe "daily life, the emotional life and especially the comedy it provides." This heroic work does just that, by focusing—with compassion and clarity—on individual human dramas. (Apr. 18)


    Prior to that, I finished:

    The Satanic Verses by Salman Rushdie

    http://www.amazon.com/Satanic-Verses...5982796&sr=1-1

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    No book in modern times has matched the uproar sparked by Salman Rushdie's The Satanic Verses, which earned its author a death sentence. Furor aside, it is a marvelously erudite study of good and evil, a feast of language served up by a writer at the height of his powers, and a rollicking comic fable. The book begins with two Indians, Gibreel Farishta ("for fifteen years the biggest star in the history of the Indian movies") and Saladin Chamcha, a Bombay expatriate returning from his first visit to his homeland in 15 years, plummeting from the sky after the explosion of their jetliner, and proceeds through a series of metamorphoses, dreams and revelations. Rushdie's powers of invention are astonishing in this Whitbread Prize winner.


    And during the reading of The Satanic Verses:

    Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows by J. K. Rowling

    http://www.amazon.com/Harry-Potter-D...5982898&sr=1-4
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    I have been struggling through a collection of Nathanial Hawthorne. With a sword and sorcery thing called the Sword of Shannara for light relief.

    But the Hawthorne is truly dreadful so I suspect I will get to the end of the novella I'm reading and give up on the rest of the collection.

    The Harry Potter certainly beckons.

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    book-book: Alexander Hamilton, American
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    audio-book2: Harry Potter & the Deathly Hallows.

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    Just finished Inside Out: A Personal History of Pink Floyd by Nick Mason. It's OK i guess.

    Currently reading The red tent by Anita Diamant. Not that good IMO.
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    Schopenhauer, On the Freedom of the Will.

    Martin and McIntyre, Readings in the Philosophy of Social Science.

    Stendhal, Le Rouge et le Noir (The Red and Black)

    Le Rouge et le Noir (The Red and the Black) is a novel by Stendhal, published in 1830. The title has been translated into English variously as Scarlet and Black, Red and Black, and The Red and the Black. It is set in France circa 1827-30, and relates a young man's attempts to rise above his plebeian birth through a combination of talent, hard work, deception and hypocrisy, only to find himself betrayed by his own passions.

    Like Stendhal's later novel The Charterhouse of Parma (La Chartreuse de Parme), Le Rouge et le Noir is a Bildungsroman. The protagonist, Julien Sorel, is a driven and intelligent man, but equally fails to understand much about the ways of the world he sets out to conquer. He harbours many romantic illusions, and becomes little more than a pawn in the political machinations of the influential and ruthless people who surround him. Stendhal uses his flawed hero to satirize French society of the time, particularly the hypocrisy and materialism of its aristocracy and the Roman Catholic Church, and to foretell a radical change in French society that will remove both of those forces from their positions of power.

    The most common and most likely explanation of the title is that red and black are the contrasting colors of the army uniform of the times and of the robes of priests, respectively. Julien Sorel observes early on in the novel that, under the Bourbon restoration it is impossible for a man of his class to distinguish himself in the army (as he might have done under Napoleon); now, only a career in the Church offers social advancement and glory. Alternative explanations are possible, however: for example, red might stand for love and black for death and mourning; or the colours might refer to those of a roulette wheel, and may indicate the unexpected changes in the hero's career.
    A brilliant, brilliant book.
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    Harry Turtledove's World War-series in written form, and Larry Niven's Ringworld-quad-or-so-rology as audiobooks while working.
    I've allways wanted to play "Russ Meyer's Civilization"

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    Horus Rising

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    After thousands of years of expansion and conquest, the human Imperium is at its height. His dream for humanity accomplished, the Emperor hands over the reins of power to his Warmaster, Horus, and heads back to Terra. But is Horus strong enough to control his fellow commanders and continue the Emperor's grand design, or will such incredible power corrupt him?
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    Angry Re: The "what are you reading" thread:

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    Re: The "what are you reading" thread:

    Originally posted by CrONoS
    First:
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    A thread to discuss and show the book that we are reading;


    I've started to read:

    Darwin's Dangerous Idea: Evolution and the Meanings of Life by Daniel C. Denett

    http://www.amazon.com/Darwins-Danger.../dp/068482471X


    The next book will be:

    Darwinizing Culture edited by Robert Aunger with a foreword of Daniel Denett.

    Who is an introduction to Memetics and why scholar are supporting the ideas of meme and other are against.
    http://www.amazon.com/Darwinizing-Cu...5982405&sr=8-1
    I like Dennett, he's a fun read.
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    I'm reading Valmiki's Ramayana.
    It's an interesting epic, a bit verbose at times though I suppose much of the sanskrit poetry gets lost in translation. A good story and view of brahmanic religion and culture. Although it's often heavy handed, which is common for epics.
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    "Veronika Decides to Die" by Paolo Coelho

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veronika_Decides_to_Die

    Amusing, plus it makes you think about life and death and all that

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    1491, by Charles Mann

    and, starting on Saturday, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows by JK Rowling (Ive started already, but only a few chapters, no spoilers please)

    Satanic Verses is on my to read list, as is Plagues and Peoples.
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    Le Rouge et Le Noir I remember as being tremendously enjoyable.

    What Hawthorne? ISTR he's best in small doses.
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    Originally posted by DinoDoc
    Horus Rising

    Editorial Reviews

    Book Description
    After thousands of years of expansion and conquest, the human Imperium is at its height. His dream for humanity accomplished, the Emperor hands over the reins of power to his Warmaster, Horus, and heads back to Terra. But is Horus strong enough to control his fellow commanders and continue the Emperor's grand design, or will such incredible power corrupt him?
    I wonder how it ends!

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    Recently saw the Count of Monte Cristo remake. Kept saying, that's not right! That's not what happened! So I reread the book.

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    I just finished Catastrophe - An Investigation into the Origins of the Modern World (David Keys). Laz mentioned it over in the history forum and it sounded interesting.

    It is interesting, even if the author jumps a tad too easily to his conclusions. He's way too loose with words like "clearly" and "undoubtedly" and whatnot. I think he stretches the evidence. I think his theory about the plague (535 AD volcanic eruption -> climate disruption -> eruption of plague) is interesting and possible. The chapter on the rise of Islam seems really a stretch. I wasn't convinced regarding the migration of the Avars, either.

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    Originally posted by lord of the mark
    ...Satanic Verses is on my to read list . . .
    A word of caution: I couldn't make it passed page 3.
    It is unreadable.
    So if you must read it, get if from the library or a friend. Do not spend any money on it.

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    The satanic verses must be one of the most undeservingly famous books. From what i recall i found it to be little more than extremely badly written, and did not read much of it at that..

    I am slowly reading James's 'turn of the screw'.

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    Originally posted by Zkribbler
    A word of caution: I couldn't make it passed page 3.
    It is unreadable.
    So if you must read it, get if from the library or a friend. Do not spend any money on it.
    BULLSHIT!

    I just read it and it is absolutely incredible . Just a wonderfully written book, full of great florid language which really pulls you into the story. And a really amusing read about the differences between good and evil.

    I highly recommend it.
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    This thread.
    You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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    While Europe Slept: How Radical Islam is Destroying the West from Within by Bruce Bawer


    From Publishers Weekly
    Having recently published an indictment of Christian fundamentalist intolerance in the U.S. (Stealing Jesus), New York native Bawer relocated to Europe with his Norwegian partner in 1998 and found an even more dangerous strain of religious and cultural bigotry ensnaring Western Europe. A swarming menace called radical Islam, he writes, rings Europe's cities in smoldering Muslim ghettos, provoking everything from so-called honor killings and political assassinations to the Madrid subway bombings and the massacre of school children in Beslan. Worse, the Taliban-like theocracy Bawer sees looming inside backward immigrant populations resistant to integration flourishes under the protective wing of Western Europe's America-bashing, multicultural, liberal establishment. The latter correspond to the appeasers of Nazi Germany, in Bawer's view, since he believes that radical Islamism is every bit the threat to Western civilization that Nazism was. He scoffs at talk of "understanding" or "dialogue," indeed, at any but the most muscular response hitching Europe ever tighter to the U.S. war on terror. His clash-of-civilizations outlook means real issues often get washed away by sweeping statements designed to tar Europe's Muslims with one irredeemably hostile, welfare-sponging brush, while trading in well-worn stereotypes about virtuous American "realists" and corrupt European "idealists." (Mar.)

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    Bruce Bawer, who has wrestled previously about American fundamentalism (Stealing Jesus) and gay rights (A Place at the Table), finds an equally contentious and compelling subject in the blind eye of European liberalism. Enchanted by the famed tolerance of Amsterdam, Bawer moved to Europe in 1998. But after settling in a predominantly Muslim neighborhood, the author noticed a society that offered "millions in aid, but not a penny in salary." Reviewers find Bawer an eloquent writer with his passion balanced between his American sensibilities and his European residence. The sharpest criticism—that a lack of a bibliography turns While Europe Slept into an exercise in pamphleteering—doesn't undermine the ultimate effectiveness, or importance, of Bawer's thesis.
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    Originally posted by Zkribbler


    A word of caution: I couldn't make it passed page 3.
    It is unreadable.
    So if you must read it, get if from the library or a friend. Do not spend any money on it.
    Are you sure you bought the english version?

    But the Satanic Verses is one of those books eveyone heard about but nobody read.
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    We have it somewhere at my parents'. I once opened the book, but it looked not very interesting.
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    Originally posted by Zkribbler
    A word of caution: I couldn't make it passed page 3.
    It is unreadable.
    So if you must read it, get if from the library or a friend. Do not spend any money on it.
    Originally posted by Varwnos
    The satanic verses must be one of the most undeservingly famous books. From what i recall i found it to be little more than extremely badly written, and did not read much of it at that..
    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


    BULLSHIT!

    I just read it and it is absolutely incredible . Just a wonderfully written book, full of great florid language which really pulls you into the story. And a really amusing read about the differences between good and evil.

    I highly recommend it.
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    The rise and fall of Theodore Rooseveldt by Edmond Morris. Brilliantly written. Dutch was very good too but I left it on a plane so havent quite finished it yet.
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    I'm also reading the last (I think) in the wheel of time series, Path of Daggers.
    We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
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    Originally posted by Lorizael
    I wonder how it ends!
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