I think Bananas have some bias in this issue
Originally posted by Kataphraktoi
Refugees can join anyone
I don't know why he saved my life. Maybe in those last moments he loved life more than he ever had before. Not just his life - anybody's life, my life. All he'd wanted were the same answers the rest of us want. Where did I come from? Where am I going? How long have I got? All I could do was sit there and watch him die.
I think Bananas have some bias in this issue
-- What history has taught us is that people do not learn from history.
-- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.
Although you're certainly free to choose this... I'm not going to be able to enforce this effectively. I'd certainly try, but it's a lot to keep track of already, and it's pretty hard to separate what could be known anyway from what is known due to being on the old team. I think this is a bit too hard to judge to be a viable option.Originally posted by Will9
I think we should be able to join any team if defeated but mentioning what we know should be strictly banned. (and we don't very much)
<Reverend> IRC is just multiplayer notepad.
I like your SNOOPY POSTER! - While you Wait quote.
Surely we're all honourable players who won't abuse our knowledge?
I love being beaten by women - Lorizael
Originally posted by Nugog
Ive been quoted out of context!111!
if you want to stop terrorism; stop participating in it
''Oh,Commissar,if we could put the potatoes in one pile,they would reach the foot of God''.But,replied the commissar,''This is the Soviet Union.There is no God''.''Thats all right'' said the worker,''There are no potatoes''
It's all part of our Miss Information contest here at team Banana.Originally posted by Kataphraktoi
is Miss Information over 18?Originally posted by Wise Ass
It's all part of our Miss Information contest here at team Banana.
Umm, no.. Why?is Miss Information over 18?
-- What history has taught us is that people do not learn from history.
-- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.
The archaic and despicable bananas continue their policy of child exploitation
if you want to stop terrorism; stop participating in it
''Oh,Commissar,if we could put the potatoes in one pile,they would reach the foot of God''.But,replied the commissar,''This is the Soviet Union.There is no God''.''Thats all right'' said the worker,''There are no potatoes''
We just want to ensure that you have as many options open to you as is possible, once we crush you........Originally posted by binTravkin
I think Bananas have some bias in this issue
I don't know why he saved my life. Maybe in those last moments he loved life more than he ever had before. Not just his life - anybody's life, my life. All he'd wanted were the same answers the rest of us want. Where did I come from? Where am I going? How long have I got? All I could do was sit there and watch him die.
You're the ones who enacted slavery. We're just the dealers.Originally posted by Kataphraktoi
The archaic and despicable bananas continue their policy of child exploitation
I think by the end of this thread Nugog will have tied Daddy-O in our competition.Originally posted by Nugog
We just want to ensure that you have as many options open to you as is possible, once we crush you........
Once you all get to hell and don't see any banana peels, you will know that the Great Banana is the one true GAWD. That's right ya'll have been spelling Her name wrong, and She's pretty mad about it. I urge you to repent!
And I was wondering what made your pop decline so sharply.You're the ones who enacted slavery. We're just the dealers.
Every underaged (and not so underaged) girl must be volunteering to be sold in slavery to Team AC where such brave and masculine soldiers come from. An excellent initiative on their part I say!
-- What history has taught us is that people do not learn from history.
-- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.
While you speak of Beloved Shan Yang, your behavour looks more
the ways of Senõra Corazon Santiago.
Girls are not interested.
Now seriously: no bias, once defeated a team is no more; just the
players remain; and some players (i'm one of them) want to keep
themselves in the game, not to see the game spoiled.
Best regards,
Girls are not interested.
Of course, players remain, with their knowledge with the game up to now.
To have them teleported to a different world (think New and Old IRL) with that knowledge would be like myth of Kukulcan/Quetzalcoatl/Gugumatz or something similarly bizarre.
-- What history has taught us is that people do not learn from history.
-- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.
Right, we don't allow people to just leave one team and join another do we? It woudn't be fair. The only difference is that beaten people can't play without joining a new team.To have them teleported to a different world (think New and Old IRL) with that knowledge would be like myth of Kukulcan/Quetzalcoatl/Gugumatz or something similarly bizarre.
So to allow them to continue playing without allowing team hopping they shouldn't have a choice as to who they join, or at least the conquerer should have to agree to let them go free.
Well, I disagree with not having choice
Refugees can run, but not out in the ocean (especially if they don't even have Sailing)
-- What history has taught us is that people do not learn from history.
-- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.
Then join the conqueror. If one does not harbour any ill feelings towards one's conqueror, there should be no problem with joining the conqueror. Hell, then one would even be able to continue playing in the same environment and cities!Originally posted by fed1943
Now seriously: no bias, once defeated a team is no more; just the
players remain; and some players (i'm one of them) want to keep
themselves in the game
If one does not want to join the conqueror, it may be a sign the defeated have bad feelings towards or want revenge against the conqueror. So then why should the conqueror allow the defeated people to run away to another team? That would cause defeating a team to be a dumb in-game move, instead of a grand achievement.
or join your ally which sounds more realistic?
Realistic is:
- running away (requesting political asylum) to some distant, yet known, land
- being conquered
That's it. Teleporting oneself to another continent is not.
-- What history has taught us is that people do not learn from history.
-- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.
but why not? there are many proofs people were sailing from egypt to america, from south america to australia, etc?
let everyone decide what to do - my short expirience shows me the defeated team just leaves the game disappointed
Means they attach too much emotion to the game.
Game is above all a game after all.
And on that sailing topic - first you need actually is Sailing..
-- What history has taught us is that people do not learn from history.
-- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.
I'm probably in the minority on my team, but to some extent I agree that it should be realistic. If I live in Bananapolis and it falls under VOX control then I would suddenly be Voxian. Which is a big threat for us right now.
However, at the same time it is just a game, so if one team is more appealing to me- for instance if I think the idea of team merc is unique and it was originally my second choice and I want to go be on their team to see how it works on the inside, it's not fair to prevent me from that.
That's just an example for the sake of examples.
I personally don't mind either way. But it is a game and players should be free to do what's fun for them.
Ok fun an all that, now face the reality - players have certain knowledge of the game, which they can't just 'undo' or 'forget' and to my experience they will use that knowledge in every possible way either to have revenge, raise their importance in the new team or just help it.
Even if they dont spread that knowledge, it's still in their heads and when they are at making decisions, this knowledge is inevitably used as a factor.
Furthermore, at least the turnplayer, has access to turns up to conquest/destruction of that civ, which means he can look up any stats/maps/whatever he wants and pass that info to the new team.
That having said I don't think people here would do such dishonorable actions, but better deny a tempting option than later regret it.
Not letting to roam free could diminish the fun for one team, but have you thought how much other teams would be disappointed if it was revealed that some of the knowledge the refugees had was actually used to the new teams' benefit?..
-- What history has taught us is that people do not learn from history.
-- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.
Rather than aruing back and forwards over this matter - maybe all the Team Captains/Leaders could get together and have a wee vote on this.........
Just a thought..........
I don't know why he saved my life. Maybe in those last moments he loved life more than he ever had before. Not just his life - anybody's life, my life. All he'd wanted were the same answers the rest of us want. Where did I come from? Where am I going? How long have I got? All I could do was sit there and watch him die.
I agree that we should just vote already.
I think if your worry is of revenge, than you shouldn't cause someone to want vengence. What's more is, I think we're mostly resonable people and this is more about the fun of the game and the experience than it is about the backstabbing and vengence. I think I can speak for most of my team when I say we were out played and it was a learning experience. Those who are that offended are going to quit and not continue.
There is no reason to discourage interest in a game that already has too few players because you don't want to trust people to make moral decisions.
Personally, I have no problem joining another civ on our continent as they are the only ones I know anything about. I'm not around enough to search the teams and look for people I know. I like the realism idea and if conquered will probably join AC and any team that takes Bananapolis, but some don't and the bottom line here is to have fun.
Actually, I'm going to state right here and now that who ever controls splitsville is the team I'm going to be a part of- considering they'll have me.
Originally posted by Wise Ass
I think I can speak for most of my team when I say we were out played and it was a learning experience.
I don't know why he saved my life. Maybe in those last moments he loved life more than he ever had before. Not just his life - anybody's life, my life. All he'd wanted were the same answers the rest of us want. Where did I come from? Where am I going? How long have I got? All I could do was sit there and watch him die.
Conquest is usually enough.I think if your worry is of revenge, than you shouldn't cause someone to want vengence.
The player problem in my experience is directly related to turn times or 'probability of action'. Most people just wont wait for months for something to happen.There is no reason to discourage interest in a game that already has too few players because you don't want to trust people to make moral decisions.
Is that an invitation to all the teams out there to conquer it first?Actually, I'm going to state right here and now that who ever controls splitsville is the team I'm going to be a part of- considering they'll have me.
-- What history has taught us is that people do not learn from history.
-- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.
People actually get upset about that?Originally posted by binTravkin
Conquest is usually enough.
Man - it just means someone played that particular game better than you.............
And you ain't done it yet................
I don't know why he saved my life. Maybe in those last moments he loved life more than he ever had before. Not just his life - anybody's life, my life. All he'd wanted were the same answers the rest of us want. Where did I come from? Where am I going? How long have I got? All I could do was sit there and watch him die.
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