Buying votes.![]()
Money talks
Romney offers student fundraisers money
By GLEN JOHNSON, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
BOSTON - A millionaire thanks to his work as a venture capitalist, Mitt Romney is acutely aware of the motivating power of money. His presidential campaign hopes it will have a similar effect on college students, which is why it's offering them a cut of their fundraising.
Participants in "Students for Mitt" will get 10 percent of the money they raise for the campaign beyond the first $1,000. While candidates often offer professional fundraisers commissions up to 8 percent, campaign experts believe the Massachusetts Republican is the first to do so with the legion of college students who have historically served as campaign volunteers.
"For the kids that want to get involved in a political campaign and they don't want to spend their summer painting houses, they can help the campaign and themselves at the same time," said Romney spokesman Kevin Madden.
Others take a dimmer view.
"It may very well succeed, but I'd like to think that he'd approach young people and college students based on their commitment to the country, not because they want walking-around money," said Steve Grossman, a prominent Massachusetts fundraiser and past chairman of the
Democratic National Committee.
Romney, former governor of Massachusetts, is engaged in a fundraising battle with rivals for the 2008 GOP presidential nomination, including such better-known candidates as Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record) of Arizona and former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani.
Presidential candidates face a first-quarter fundraising deadline this Saturday, with reports released on April 15. Those totals will strongly contribute to perceptions of political viability.
McCain has played down his expected take, but spokesman Danny Diaz said Tuesday: "We're confident of the organization that has been put in place. I wouldn't trade our position in the race with anyone."
The campaign has tried to bolster its effort by organizing a young professionals group, as well as interactive Web sites that track McCain's travels and include donation links.
Democrats such as Sens.
Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York, Barack Obama (news, bio, voting record) of Illinois and Chris Dodd of Connecticut are not organizing student groups but instead relying on more traditional fundraising networks.
Running third or worse in public opinion polls, Romney is looking to raise at least $15 million to cement his status as a top-tier candidate.
Successful applicants to Students for Mitt get an ID and source code so the campaign can track donations made at their behest.
The participants are asked to contact members of their academic, social and family circles, and point them to Romney's Web site. The students get 10 percent of all money above $1,000 that is contributed under their ID and source code.
Chapters are being established in Boston, Phoenix, Denver, Provo, Utah, and Rexburg, Idaho, the latter two where Brigham Young University — a predominantly Mormon school — is based and has a branch campus. Romney is trying to become the first Mormon elected president.
"I spend a lot of hours at the campaign here," said Sarah Isgur, second-year student at Harvard Law School, who is raising funds from classmates, friends and family members, among others in the Boston area. "Some students are working at a law firm and earning $3,000 per week. My opportunity cost is pretty high some times, and this can take the edge off that."
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“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
"Capitalism ho!"

just buying campaign workers
That's not the real world. Your job has little to do with the sort of thing most people do for a living. - Agathon
If social security were private, it would be prosecuted as a Ponzi scheme.

It's the same thing. Most college students vote democrat (because they are educated). He's trying to sway their vote (and in turn the votes of their friends) with money, not with his political beliefs.
“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
"Capitalism ho!"
What do you call advertising, DaShi?![]()

Crimes against humanity.Originally posted by Kuciwalker
What do you call advertising, DaShi?![]()
“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
"Capitalism ho!"

If Romney had half a brain, he'd have forced a name change to the Massachusettes Institute of Tomorrow's Technology. That way, students would be walking around with sweatshirts bearing the name: M.I.T.T.![]()

Most BYU/BYU-I students vote Republican. He's trying to motivate these people to campaign for him directly. And probably figured he'd open the program to any other students who wanted to, just for kicks.Originally posted by DaShi
It's the same thing. Most college students vote democrat (because they are educated). He's trying to sway their vote (and in turn the votes of their friends) with money, not with his political beliefs.
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1. I don't believe it.Originally posted by Alexander01
Most BYU/BYU-I students vote Republican.
2. So what? This isn't just BYU.
“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
"Capitalism ho!"

Mormons wear white dress shirt and ties when they go on picnics.Originally posted by DaShi
1. I don't believe it.Why wouldn't they vote Republican?

Why would they? Aha!
“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
"Capitalism ho!"

I wouldn't say that is a strong predictor of voting habits. I go to one of the top 20 schools most nostalgic for Reagan according to the Princeton Review.Originally posted by DaShi
It's the same thing. Most college students vote democrat (because they are educated).![]()
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Looks like an interesting idea; we'll see how it turns out.
One of the sad things about working in Democratic politics is that the Democratic college level internships are all unpaid positions, whereas Republican internships are paid. And let's face it, not many people are willing to sacrifice making money over the summer at the altar to elect some Democrat.
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One school does not a rule make.Originally posted by DinoDoc
I wouldn't say that is a strong predictor of voting habits. I go to one of the top 20 schools most nostalgic for Reagan according to the Princeton Review.![]()
“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
"Capitalism ho!"

Also, while on the surface it may look like Republicans and Mormons have a lot in common, in reality their are some subtle, but important, differences.Originally posted by Zkribbler
Mormons wear white dress shirt and ties when they go on picnics.Why wouldn't they vote Republican?
Some examples:
Both like to sleep with many different women, but Mormons marry all of them.
Mormons prefer to have relationships with underage girls. Republicans prefer underage boys.
Mormons believe that Jesus spread his gospel in America. Republicans beleive that Jesus is in America right now telling them how to run the country.
“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
"Capitalism ho!"

That's because Democratic volunteers believe in their cause.Originally posted by Admiral
One of the sad things about working in Democratic politics is that the Democratic college level internships are all unpaid positions, whereas Republican internships are paid. And let's face it, not many people are willing to sacrifice making money over the summer at the altar to elect some Democrat.
“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
"Capitalism ho!"

Working for the dark side has always paid better.Originally posted by Admiral
One of the sad things about working in Democratic politics is that the Democratic college level internships are all unpaid positions, whereas Republican internships are paid.![]()
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Well, Republicans who believe in their cause couldn't be working for free, now could they?Originally posted by DaShi
That's because Democratic volunteers believe in their cause.![]()
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So long as a normal diet does not consist entirely of poisonous dog food from China, some sustenance is required in the form of cold hard cash.
That the Dems give only unpaid internships is an indication of the support in the society that they garner (i.e., not much).
Trust fund babies (you know who you are) are the only ones who can afford to work for the Dems.
I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

had to pay real money for that poisonous dog food from China. Us Chinese don't give away anything!
That's not the real world. Your job has little to do with the sort of thing most people do for a living. - Agathon
If social security were private, it would be prosecuted as a Ponzi scheme.

I assume it would be pretty cheap now. Well within the range of panhandlers and other Dem volunteers.
I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
The irony of the populist sentiments (gotta get me some of that guvmint monies) as the base of Democratic vote obviously eludes you.Originally posted by DaShi
He's trying to sway their vote (and in turn the votes of their friends) with money, not with his political beliefs.
"Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter
I was thinking more along the lines of commission based sales.Originally posted by Kuciwalker
What do you call advertising, DaShi?![]()
Proper incentives and accountability![]()
"Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter
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