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    US wants all 10 fingerprints on entry

    The US will increase the amount of information it holds on foreign visitors when it takes all 10 fingerprints from air travellers rather than the usual two.

    Currently foreign travellers must have their index fingers scanned into a database when they enter the US by agents of the Department of Homeland Security. Those prints can then be checked against a database of fingerprints held by police forces or the FBI.
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    That number will increase to all 10 fingerprints on a trial at 10 US airports. It is planned that the programme will be in place in all airports in around a year, according to a report in The Daily Telegraph.

    US authorities claim the current scan of two fingers takes around 15 seconds and that the new process will not take significantly longer than that. Tourism bodies in the US have expressed concern that such measures are harming the tourist trade, however.

    "We applaud the US Senate for striving to fix a flawed travel system," Stevan Porter, chairman of the Discover America Partnership, told the Telegraph. The Discover America Partnership is a representative body for tourism bodies.

    "The policies implemented over the past five years appear to have strengthened our security. Lost, however, were efficiencies and a semblance of customer service," Porter said.

    There are already concerns in Europe about the amount and importance of data held by US authorities on European air passengers. The US has a less stringent privacy regime than Europe.

    Airlines are currently forced to hand over 34 pieces of information about every passenger that travels to the US. Called Passenger Name Records, the information is transferred in line with a deal signed by the European Commission and US authorities.

    The European Parliament has opposed the deal, though, and a new agreement is due to be signed later this year. An earlier agreement was deemed illegal by the European Court of Justice on a technicality, but a near-identical scheme was set up in its place.

    The Department of Homeland Security is said to have arrested 1,800 suspects since biometric identification was introduced, but in order to do that they collected the fingerprints of 80 million passengers.

    Visitor numbers from the UK to the US have dropped since 2001's terrorist attacks in the US and the security measures put in place in their aftermath. Around 4.7 million UK citizens visited the US in 2001, a figure that fell to 4.3 million in 2005.

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  • #2
    Good.
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    • #3
      Useless.
      "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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      • #4
        Why don't they just fully map the genecode of each passenger, and be done with it?

        Oh, wait, they just do it progressively.
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        • #5
          Horrible. Not only does it make no sense, it doesn't help anything at all, if we want to talk about terrorism.

          I only have 9 fingerprints anyway.
          In da butt.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Eli
            Useless.

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            • #7
              What if you have 11 fingers?

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              • #8
                Then you should commit the act of terror with the 11th
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                • #9
                  Who cares what finger prints you have? You're gonna blow up anyways right?

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                  • #10
                    whenever Ive been finger printed for a job or whatever, all ten fingers have been used. Is it different in Euroland?
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                    • #11
                      Out of curiosity, why the concern over 10 fingers vs 2, Mark or Spiffor?
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by lord of the mark
                        whenever Ive been finger printed for a job or whatever, all ten fingers have been used. Is it different in Euroland?
                        AFAIK, I've only been finger printed once in my life, and that was only the thumb.
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                        "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                        "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DinoDoc
                          Out of curiosity, why the concern over 10 fingers vs 2, Mark or Spiffor?
                          Can't speak for Markos, but I say this is a way to get some more personal information bout each individual, so that people can become more traceable. It's only a step in a general direction of the State having everybody's biometric information, so that it can fully identify anybody.

                          I don't see any reason why the State would stop its progression, considering that people generally agree with being traceable.
                          "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                          "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                          "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Spiffor

                            Can't speak for Markos, but I say this is a way to get some more personal information bout each individual, so that people can become more traceable.
                            What's the meaningful difference between 2 fingers and 10? How does it make you more traceable? Don't you have CCTVs in France anyway?
                            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by DinoDoc
                              What's the meaningful difference between 2 fingers and 10? How does it make you more traceable?
                              I don't know the technical aspect to it, but one thing is certain: they don't do this change just for fun. Tell me one single reason they'd do that, except to increase their data collection about every individual.


                              Don't you have CCTVs in France anyway?
                              The trend I denounce is occuring in the whole west, and probably elsewhere. In France, the data collected by the state hasn't reached the level of the US, but it will. I'm a strong opponent to this in my own country as well.

                              So you'll excuse me if I don't see why this question is any relelvant.
                              "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                              "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                              "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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