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    Originally posted by Nimitz
    I like all my choices too and wish to keep them avalible for later choosing; it is kind of overwhelming. But for now I will pick Hrabì Ondrej z Trutnov for his experience.
    That's fine, I can keep them around for the next time you call up generals. I would prefer, however, if you wrote which one you are choosing in your orders - I refer to your orders and pretty much nothing else when updating, because I don't want to reread the entire thread.
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    Ok I'll add him into the orders.
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    A couple quick questions:

    Donaugraf von Wein is still available as a general, right?

    When I transfer Carinthia to Eberhard, I'll lose both von Wein and Markgraf Eberhard as generals, because they'll be Carinthians, who are subject to Eberhard, not to me, right? Or can I still draw on them for generals?
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    "General" is not a actual rank; it is just an informal designation of who is leading your armies. You can pick people as generals regardless of their allegiance... whether they will be more loyal to you or the new Markgraf is your own decision to make. So long as relations between you and the Markgraf are good it shouldn't be a problem.

    Edit: This is a reminder to Micha telling him that, unless Giovanni shows up (which seems doubtful, his last post was more than a month ago in the earlier thread) I will be playing the Count of Friesland this turn and will cooperate with Saxony's plans in Friesland.
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    Duke Arnulf of Bavaria to Doge Orso II Participazio of Venice
    I have come into possession of about 1,300 Magyar warriors I am looking to dispose of. I have no desire to simply release them to fight me again, I do not want to keep them in camps where they will need to be guarded and fed, and I am loath to keep them as slaves myself, where they might escape or be rescued by their fellow warriors. Are you in the business of trading slaves? These are hearty, healthy men in their prime, who I'm sure would command a respectable price overseas, where their owners would not fear Magyar reprisal. I would be willing to actually give these men to you. I am sure this is well below the going price, but I am likewise sure that you would need to hire guards to transport them to port. In such a situation, it does not seem quite fair to ask a price for them. If you accept, we might consider this a reimbursement for the favor you did me in helping to defeat Luitpold von Frelsing.

    Duke Arnulf of Bavaria to Duke Tomislav of Dalmatia
    I congratulate you on the treaty you have reached with Bulgaria and offer my most heartfelt wishes that peace can be maintained between Christian peoples in the future. I come to you to ask a favor; now that you have reached a peace treaty, even if a tenuous one, you will not require quite as much from your army. I have need to hire a small number of Dalmatian cavalry to assist me against the Magyars. Since the defeat of these predators is in both of our best interests, I hoped that you might release even as few as 100 of these light cavalrymen to my service.
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    Doge Orso II Participazio of Venice to Duke Arnulf of Bavaria
    Indeed, we do have a hand in the slave market, and we are always in need of galley slaves. I accept your proposal; I cannot afford a long venture, but if you bring them through Brenner Pass in your territory I will arrange for a mercenary guard to escort them the rest of the way.

    Duke Tomislav of Dalmatia to Duke Arnulf of Bavaria
    Make no mistake about the truce between myself and the Bulgarian King; his continued aggression against my neighbors and allies makes any peace between us fleeting at best, and he knows this well. I am disinclined to release any men from my service in such times, but because you have not shown hostility towards me despite you King's poor choice of allies, and because I sympathize with your plight with regards to the Magyars, I will arrange for a small amount of men to be released from obligations to me and available to hire themselves out.

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    On this day in the year 800, Charlemagne was crowned "Imperator Romanorum" by Pope Leo III in Rome.

    Merry Christmas, NES-ers. Have your egg nog and then turn in your orders!
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    Three Magyar horsemen have been intercepted outside the winter camp of the combined Imperial and German army. They have claimed a right of free passage to deliver a message to the "chiefs of Germany," apparently from a Hadúr (warlord, great chieftain) named Tarhos. It is unknown who exactly this is, what his role in the current war is, or where his lands or forces lie.

    Németek Ura -
    It sours me to be forced to barter with you, but bonds of family and love compel me. You have among your captives a man called Zoltán, who shares my blood. While you remain my enemies as long as you refuse to submit and pay us tribute, I would offer you gold for his safe return, and would remember such actions at a time when you might wish for kindness from us.

    Tarhos hadúr, Jaszi magyarok nagyhadúr, Árpád nagyfejedelem fia.
    The riders do not claim to speak for the Hadúr, but have said (one speaks fairly crude German) something to the effect that they have been instructed to relay any correspondence from the "Németek" to the Hadúr immediately, and that failure to release them (they are being held as enemy scouts currently) would incur the wrath of their chief.
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    Release these Magyars back outside of Bavaria, and instruct them to tell their chief that mere gold will not convince me to release this man, who has scourged far too many German cities and wil doubtless take more Christian life should he be released.
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    King Charles III of France and Lothairingia to King Heinrich I of Germany

    With the rise of a new dynasty in East Francia, it seems fitting to hold a formal mutual recognition of our kingships, something never formally done with your predecessor. I propose that, to further secure both of our reigns, we sign a bilateral treaty outlining our borders explicitly, recognizing each other's right as monarch, and forswearing any claims on each other's territory. I hopefully await your reply.
    King Heinrich I of Germany to King Charles III of France and Lothairingia

    I agree with your proposal to sign a bilateral treaty securing our reigns. We regard the broders of the German duchies as they are, with the inclusion of the lands of our Frisian brothers and the heathen lands to the east and north, as our territory. I recognize your rightful claim on the lands of the Franks West and South of these borders.
    May your reign be long and healthy.

    Signed, King Heinrich of Gemany


    Emperor Simeon I of the Bulgarians, Greeks and Romans to King Heinrich I of Germany

    It pleases me greatly to hear of the victory of the Germans against the heathen Magyars. Christ is indeed glorified by every noble people that recognizes the true Emperor and fights valiantly against evil. I have made every attempt to aid my loyal subjects in Germany and support your rule; my plans to involve the Pechenegs against the Magyars, traditionally enemies on the steppes, have met with success - though the pagan Pechenegs are certainly no great friends of ours, their presence may yet be helpful in distracting the Magyars from our lands.

    Once the immediate business of the Magyars is out of the way, I desire some assistance from the German people in my endeavour. Your successor recognized me as the true Emperor of Christendom; indeed, your Pope has recognized me as the true ruler of the Imperial City. As my royal vassal and as a fellow Christian, I request the detachment of a significant force of German soldiers - whose valor is well known - to fulfill the feudal obligations of the Germans and assist me in my Thracian campaign against the usurper Admiral that even now plays as "Emperor" upon the throne that is rightfully mine.

    I will certainly reward you for this example of your wisdom and loyalty.
    King Heinrich of Gemany to Emperor Simeon I of the Bulgarians, Greeks and Romans

    We appreciate the interference of the Pechenegs, but as you very well know, Germany is in no way able to send even the smallest detachment of troops away. We bleed ourselves dry in this crusade against the heathen Magyars, and we rely on the services of foreigners to supplement the armies we field ourselves. There is no way we could help you yet.

    Once the Magyar threat is dealt with, there is a wide array of possibilities for our peoples to aid each other.

    Until then, the best of luck

    Signed, King Heinrich of Germany
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    Duchy of Saxony - Orders

    • claim 1400 light armour pieces, 600 shields, 400 spears and 1100 Magyar bows from the loot of the battle of Tirol (since no other duchy than Bavaria has claimed those)
    • merge all 1400 new recruits and the "chivalry" into the "Saxon army"
    • equip the Saxon army as follows: 255 knights, 575 sergeants, 330 Saxon Guards (light, spear, shield, bow), 270 Spearmen (light, spear, shield, Magyar bow), 800 Saxon Raiders (light, sword, Magyar bow)
    • Make Landgraf Theudobald von Osnabrück commander of the Saxon Army
    • put both other generals on "hold" for future appointments, generate a third one for next year
    • Spend 450d on filling and repair of granaries
    • Spend 1000d on extending the road network in Saxony
    • Join Saxon army with the German and Imperial armies
    • King Heinrich is to meet the Emperor if possible to discuss affairs (bishopric of Bohemia, fate of Carinthia, imperial army assistance, future of Friesland in the German Kingdom)
    • The army in Friesland will receive supplies worth 300d and will take part in any campaign the Frisian Count desires.
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    Originally posted by Micha
    The army in Friesland will receive supplies worth 300d and will take part in any campaign the Frisian Count desires.[/list]
    Because I am controlling the Count of Friesland currently, I will rule that the Count is deferring to you with regards to strategy. If you wish to give battle orders, do so, otherwise the plan will be decided by your commanding general (which is also fine).

    King Charles III of France and Lothairingia to King Heinrich I of Germany
    Though on most matters we seem to be agreed, I hasten to remind you that Friesland is a vassal County of the King of France, and thus under feudal obligations rightfully under my dominion. While I deeply appreciate the presence of your forces there, that presence does not change the fact that the fealty of the Duke is owed to my person, not that of the King of Germany.

    Another Magyar message

    A Magyar party has returned quickly from the South to the Imperial and German camp, with a response to the Duke of Bavaria's reply.

    Németek Ura,

    Fine then, if gold will not buy my brother's freedom, then we shall offer life. We hold one of your protectors in our grasp, a man that calls himself Von Dortmund. He is one of your warriors that claims to come from the land of your Prince, captured from you by the Gyula.

    I offer the life of my brother for that of Von Dortmund. Show my messengers my brother so that I know he is alive and what condition he is in. If you wish to make the exchange, we shall do so on the plain south of Pressburg.

    Be warned. Twice now your people have kneeled and then stabbed us in the back after we accepted your surrender. We have little reason to trust your treacherous nature. I will have a man with a sharp sword near Von Dortmund at all times, and I promise you the Németek shall weep and curse your names as well as ours if we unleash our full vengeance upon them.

    Tarhos hadúr, Jaszi magyarok nagyhadúr, Árpád nagyfejedelem fia.
    A lock of hair has been included in the message, presumably that of von Dortmund.
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    I will be updating within the coming week. If you haven't gotten orders in, do so within the next few days, or be UDWOTed!
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    Duke Arnulf of Bavaria to King Heinrich of Germany
    My lord, Magyar emmissaries have informed me that your knight von Dortmund still lives, and have offered his life in exchange for that of the Magyar commander Hadur Zoltan, who I currently hold in custody. As this concerns your general and not mine, I leave this decision to you; do you want to ensure that Zoltan never threatens German soil again, or retrieve your general von Dortmund?
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    Originally posted by appleciders
    Duke Arnulf of Bavaria to King Heinrich of Germany
    My lord, Magyar emmissaries have informed me that your knight von Dortmund still lives, and have offered his life in exchange for that of the Magyar commander Hadur Zoltan, who I currently hold in custody. As this concerns your general and not mine, I leave this decision to you; do you want to ensure that Zoltan never threatens German soil again, or retrieve your general von Dortmund?
    King Heinrich of Germany to Duke Arnulf of Bavaria

    The Magyars are lying, the hair lock doesn´t prove anything. Von Dortmund was a heroic general and will be remembered as a symbol of German bravery. May he rest in peace.

    Kill Zoltan!

    King Heinrich of Germany to King Rudolph of Burgundy

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    My trusted friend, my prayers wish for your recovery each day, so tell me, how are you?

    I need to hear your opinion upon an affair that bothers me:
    The King of France clings to his claims on Friesen, but does not involve a single soldier in the fierce battles against the Danish invaders there. I know that you have sent a regiment of your fine warriors to help the Frieses, as have I. It should be the responsibility of every true Christian ruler to help his brothers against the forces of evil. I am planning to offer the Frisians German protection - as our vassals. This will be viewed as an offensive act in the eyes of the power-hungry but unfaithful French King, so I am humbly asking for your point of view in this matter...

    I remain as your loyal friend,
    King Heinrich of the Germans, Duke of Saxony
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    King Rudolph II of Burgundy to King Heinrich of Germany (secret)

    My thanks for your concern; I am doing quite well and have safely reached my court at Besançon. My forces are gathering for the offensive you have been informed of - which I trust we will continue to keep quite secret - and I believe I will be capable of leading them personally in not too much time.

    The baronial rebellion several years past has, in my opinion, exposed the rotting structure of King Charles' rule. He has been forced to yield Normandy to the norsemen, and controls little outside his own demesne in the Île-de-France; the Dukes of France have as much power in their lands as I do in my Kingdom. I do not believe that Charles has the strength or support to contest your claims over Friesland - I am not sure he can even comfortably leave the environs of Paris without a rebellion storming in behind him. He cannot afford declaring war on the King of the Danes, and does not have the power to bend Friesland to his will. Nevertheless, you surely understand that given my other plans, opening hostilities with the King is not in my best interest. I will, however, diplomatically support any move to place Friesland under your protection.

    I fear that a major conflagration is at hand, from Brittany to Salerno, and that it is unavoidable. In such times I believe that righteous men must not shirk from conflict, but be ready to take advantage of the situation to its fullest extent.
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    Orders Finis!

    26-12-2006
    Three Magyar horsemen [arrive from the east]…to deliver a message to the "chiefs of Germany,"


    Questions:
    several turns ago I spent 200 d each in Bamberg and Weinsberg to begin building fortifications…was that not enough? How much would be appropriate to get some basic defenses up?

    Whatever happened to Conrad's widow and children?

    Hmm hmm hmm. Well, if it is appropriate, my family will look after them, maintain contact with them. Got to bring those kids up well.

    4,065 denarii available
    3800 spent

    75 iron and 1525 d for 800 sets of light armor
    300 d for 100 sets of heavy armor
    400 d for 400 shields
    150 d for 150 pavises

    150 d for 150 swords
    150 d for 150 axes
    200 d for 200 spears
    200 d for 200 polearms
    100 d for 100 javelins
    200 d for 200 bows

    425 d to finance ducal duties. This consists of sending envoys to the aristocrats, town leaders, church officials and the like all across Franconia to hear their problems, suggestions, thoughts, and communicate them to the Duke. In the week or two or however long it takes before my armies are ready to march out I will even invite nearby nobles to come accept my hospitality and meet with me in person. I want these envoys I send out to find out real opinions and facts if they can, as well as the official 'party line' that the nobles and other power figures spout. I want to maintain contact by messenger with the officials who govern in my stead while I am on campaign, so as not to be an entirely absent Duke. The Duke's hand must stay on the neck of Franconia--to take its pulse, and to guide it where it must go.

    Call up 100 more knights and 300 more sergeants

    Appoint Vizegraf Teutomar von Würzburg as a general and send him to Bamberg. Once the 1000 new recruits (henceforth “Bamberg Guard” are equipped with weapons he will have command over them.

    Call up new generals, including the reserved Landgraf Raganald von Hesse.


    The following forces will join that great big allied army on its campaign:

    The Eastern Veterans’ Battalion, under the command of Wildgraf Merobaud
    von der Thüringerwald;

    The Frankfurt Levy; within which the spear and archer contingents will be commanded by Landgraf Cristianus von Mellrichstadt and the sword contingent will be commanded by Rhinegraf Gisfried von Ingelbeim;

    and Conrad’s Fist, under the command Bishop Roricus von Worms.

    Duke Eberhard will accompany and of course retain overall command of his forces, paying particular attention to the Frankfurt Levy and maintaining close contact with all his generals. I don't expect von Mellrichstadt and von Ingelbeim to work together, I just need them to command their men on the field and the Duke will take care of all other duties.
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    And I thought we had cleared Germany of Magyar intruders... Anyway, I am quite sure cloth armour, as it is no armour, does not need to be paid for. So you can spend those 120d otherwise...

    Would you mind sending some of your troops to support the Imperial army?
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    Support the Imperial Army at what, my lord? I have heard of no concrete plans to actually go fight the Magyar.
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    The Imperial-Bavarian-Swabian force is currently planning to embark on a reconquest of Carinthia, though it is not expecting a significant pitched engagement.
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    Make that the Imperial-Bavarian-Swabian-Saxon force, with Burgundian rearguards , if I understand correctly that a Saxon division will be coming south to assist.
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    Also the Bohemians have there plans to launch an incursion into magyar lands soon too. I'll be looking to coordinate the movement with whats going on in the south so we have maximum effect.
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    several turns ago I spent 200 d each in Bamberg and Weinsberg to begin building fortifications…was that not enough? How much would be appropriate to get some basic defenses up?
    This was an oversight and will be corrected.

    Whatever happened to Conrad's widow and children?
    They are all certainly still alive. I'll put the children in the stat block for your benefit.
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    Who is the current Duke's heir? Is the current Duke, in fact, the rightful Duke, or only a sort of regent for Conrad's son?

    Would it be proper in this case to take the Widow and her children into my household and provide for them (err...I would have done this sooner had it occurred to me )
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    Originally posted by foolish_icarus
    Who is the current Duke's heir? Is the current Duke, in fact, the rightful Duke, or only a sort of regent for Conrad's son?

    Would it be proper in this case to take the Widow and her children into my household and provide for them (err...I would have done this sooner had it occurred to me
    There is a difference between what is technically "legal" according to traditional Salic Law and what is actually practiced. Technically, Hermann (Conrad's son) should have succeeded him, and a regent would be put in place until he came of majority (for purposes of this NES, that age is 15). However, no brother of a dead Duke with underaged heirs would settle for a regency; that would only encourage their outside enemies. The brother would likely claim the Ducal seat, and in the absence of any real alternative, he would have to be accepted.

    The upshot of this is that Eberhard is the Duke, but when Hermann comes to majority, he could bring a serious challenge to Eberhard's Dukedom (because Hermann would have legality behind him). Eberhard could peacefully abdicate when Hermann comes to majority, or he could try to control, exile, or even kill Hermann to secure the reign for himself or his children.
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    This update has begun, but I had to do some unexpected things this weekend (including staying up until 4am to write a sermon) and it will be a bit late. Any changes to orders before I make the update post will probably be acknowledged.
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    Woohoo!
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    Yes, the Bohemian Major national improvement program has begun!
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    These battle reports sure do take a while to write! This is all the update for today, folks:

    The Battle of Martenshoek Bog

    Utrecht Vikings (Havard Fasthjalm) – 2,125 men
    200 Huskarl (heavy, spear, sword, shield)
    1,500 Vikings (light, polearm, sword, shield)
    300 Viking Archers (light, bow, sword, shield)
    100 Riders (horse, sword, javelin, shield)
    25 Berserkir (polearm, insanity)

    Groningen Vikings (Grimmdolg) – 650 men
    50 Huskarl (heavy, spear, sword, shield)
    500 Vikings (light, polearm, sword, shield)
    100 Viking Archers (light, bow, sword, shield)

    Viking Slayers (Landgraf Theodoric von Norden, Vizegraf Gunter von Holstein) – 1,710 men
    110 Heavy Saxon Raiders (heavy, polearm, sword, shield)
    50 Sword-Archers (bow, sword, shield, light)
    200 Saxon Raiders (polearm, sword, shield, light)
    200 Medium Angonmen (javelin, spear, shield, light)
    700 Medium Woodsmen (light, shield, axe, bow)
    450 Frieslander Auxiliaries (polearm)

    Army of Norden (Count Dirk, Baron Staas van Apeldoorn) – 1,910 men
    80 knights
    180 sergeants
    550 Medium Guards (polearm, light)
    200 Skirmishers (sword, shield, javelin)
    900 Militia (polearm)

    Though the Count of Friesland was originally reluctant to engage the Vikings with only a fraction of Saxony’s total army, the King’s generals finally managed to convince him of the necessity of attacking before further reinforcements could arrive. Restless and ready for combat, the Saxon troops left Groningen in high spirits with the Frieslander Army of Norden under command of the Count himself. Though another Frisian detachment was in Deventer at the time, the Count feared committing all his forces to one fight, and expressed concern that, if left unguarded, the southern part of his realm would be ravaged by the Vikings of Utrecht in the absence of a garrison. The two armies advanced towards Groningen with nearly 4,000 fighting men, plus camp followers.

    Minimal resistance was expected; the Vikings were believed to be around 500 strong and Groningen lacked any real defensive works. The armies, however, were spotted by the Vikings early on, and the Vikings had in the previous year moved most of the Utrecht garrison to Groningen by sea. At a large peat bog just outside the town, the Germans and Frisians came face to face with a combined Viking army of nearly 3,000 men.

    With both sides light on cavalry, it was evident that an infantry clash would decide the battle. This was upsetting to the Count, who had counted on a strong contingent of chivalry from the Saxons, and was well aware of Viking prowess on foot. Nevertheless, retreat was out of the question, and the sides took battle lines in the misty spring morning. Though the allied command was uncertain, the troops were well-supplied and ready to fight. On the Viking side, supplies had been running low for months as Frisian forces edged in on Viking-held lands, but the raiders seemed in good spirits regardless. With them were several berserkir, terrible and brutal warriors whose very presence encouraged the Danes.

    The battle opened with the archers of both sides moving forward to skirmish. The archers from both sides ventured forward to harass the enemy’s ranks; though well armored, the Danish archers were simply outnumbered by the equally well protected Saxon woodsmen. The Danish skirmishers retreated under a hail of arrows, and though the Vikings did not fall in great numbers due to their broad shields, their main force was sufficiently provoked to begin advancing towards the Germans and Frieslanders.

    The Danes formed up into a “swine array,” a formation of multiple wedges – like the teeth of a saw – with the most well-armored and fiercest soldiers at the front and the archers at the rear. The Huskarls led each wedge, with the Berserkir covering the right flank. The Vikings advanced in good order under fire and impacted the German-Frisian line with substantial force. The melee was extraordinarily fierce; the Frisians and Vikings exchanged blows with their two-handed Danish axes, while the Saxon raiders held the right flank fiercely. Though the Frieslanders were many, the militia equipped with nothing more than polearms was totally outclassed; the Frisian left was held by these militia troops, which were carved apart by the fierce Berserkir, who led the Danish wedges straight through the Frisian lines. Seeing no other option, the Count countercharged the Danish right to bolster his flank. Though the attack was unexpected and a good amount of Danes trampled, the marshy ground proved too difficult for an effective charge and the chivalry was turned back with heavy losses. At this point, sensing victory, the Danish riders charged, only to be brutally suppressed by the Saxon archers on the flanks.

    The Saxon lines on the right held far better, but the rout of the Frisians led to a very real danger of encirclement. With the woodsmen providing covering fire, von Norden managed to extricate himself and his men in a semi-orderly retreat. The Danes, howling and mad, charged after the retreating enemy, determined to deliver a killing blow. They were stymied by the Saxon and Frisian javelinmen, who had stayed back as a reserve. In the swampy soil of the peat bog, the Vikings were hard pressed to chase down the more nimble skirmishers. The javelins pierced shields and armor, and when one shaft ran the Viking lord Grimmdolg through the eye, his troops lost their nerve and broke off pursuit. Havard Fasthjalm pursued the Saxons all the way to Norden, but his attempt to lay siege was fruitless; a rain had set in, making any attempt to fire the palisade wasted effort, and the Saxon archers beat back any attempt to storm the works. Frustrated, the Danes withdrew, jubilant in victory but discouraged at its cost.

    Losses:

    The Saxon “Viking Slayers” lost 445 men.
    20 Heavy Saxon Raiders
    60 Saxon Raiders
    20 Medium Angonmen
    25 Medium Woodsmen
    320 Frieslander Auxiliaries

    The Frisian Army of Norden lost 890 men.
    35 Knights
    80 Sergeants
    235 Medium Guards
    10 Skirmishers
    530 Militia

    The Vikings lost at least 500 men; the exact count is uncertain.

    150 Militia have deserted the Army of Norden. The rest of the army, along with the Saxons, holds Norden itself.

    The Viking lord, Grimmdolg, was slain; no other commanders were wounded or killed.
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    Wow. That was... harsh.

    So the Frisians expected cavalry, but the little they had proved ineffective due to terrain? Is the Count a fool or was is just bad luck with the weather?
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