italians got pissed - they came to geneva thinking that they was gonna blow away the swiss, then they realized that they hadnt paid off the ref.
here's to a quarterfinals match between them.

what a cheap shot. him and gatusso.
"Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

italians got pissed - they came to geneva thinking that they was gonna blow away the swiss, then they realized that they hadnt paid off the ref.
here's to a quarterfinals match between them.
"Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

"Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini
Originally posted by Wernazuma III
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Sorry, but if anything, Europe has too few slots if it were for quality only.
% of teams advancing to phase 2:
CONCACAF: 25% (1/4)
CONMEBOL: 75% (3/4)
UEFA: 71% (10/14)
Africa: 20% (1/5)
Asia: 0% (0/4)
Oceania: 100% (1/1)
And you want to tell us Africa and Asia certainly deserve more slots?Now,I agree that this WC wasn't particularily favorable for Africa, but still, you can see the trend.
I'm not arguing for more slots for Europe or South America, since it's a good thing that the WC actually has a good number of teams from all corners of the world. But stating that Europe is over-represented...
hmmm-- I am quite comfortable with the current numbers from each region. They reflect the fact that Europe is the best football region. There is no way one can deny that. However, if you cannot make the top FOURTEEN, it is difficult to argue that you are a top team that was hard done by in the qualification process.
I think that the current number of spots for Africa or Asia is a small price to pay for the development of the game. Africa in particular seems to be very competitive within its own region. Its interesting to note that that NONE of the African teams in the top 20 of the FIFA rankings (Nigeria, Cameroon and Egypt) qualified this time. (I know we berate the rankings)

It looked like France had arrived last night - it was great to see Vieira and Henry on top form together again.Originally posted by reds4ever
France looked pretty good IMHO. Looks like the WC starts from here...![]()
They were also good for 80 minutes against S. Korea, but they look far more dangerous without Zidane.

You can barely call the qualified nations the top FOURTEEN. There are several groups in Europe...and there are often so called death groups.Originally posted by Flubber
However, if you cannot make the top FOURTEEN, it is difficult to argue that you are a top team that was hard done by in the qualification process.
"Football is like chess, only without the dice." Lukas Podolski

and as soon as they put zidane back in, the french will lose.
"Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

Serbia & Montenegro is something of a special case, I can imagine weren't terribly motivated to perform well under that banner, considering the recent political events. Plus, they were in the group of death.Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Europe ALWAYS thinks that some quality European team was not included and have ever since the percentage of European teams in the Finals went down. And perhaps one or two did, but the answer to make sure they were in the Finals instead of Europe's Serbia & Montenegro who finished last in this World Cup (though I realize they were good in qualifying).
And IMO, it is better to be too exclusionist than being too 'open'. It makes the Finals far more exciting that few teams are in, and much more of an achievement to get in. And of course there are questions of how freaking long can the World Cup go on for. IMO, a month is a very good time frame.
Though Africa should get at least one more spot. Probably from CONCACAF, even though Trinidad & Tobago (who finished 4th and won the playoff to get in) played pretty well. Make the final one game playoff to get in be between Asia & Africa perhaps.
And there are quality teams missing who can easily top, say, T&T or Togo: Turkey, Russia, Romania, Denmark...
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Yeah DeRossi is obviously a punk. Wouldn't be so bad it if he didn't keep claiming innocence after the foul.Originally posted by siron
Very brilliant game against Italy.Here are the highlights of the 2nd half:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhK5T...0Rossi%20Swiss
Check out De Rossi's performance.
ACK!
"Foof." - Sasquatch.

senderos out two weeks.
"Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

Damn! Poor Phil.Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
senderos out two weeks.
It was a mighty header, and with Henry's finish too it was a good day for Arsenal goals.![]()

What the hell is that?!Originally posted by siron
Very brilliant game against Italy.Here are the highlights of the 2nd half:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhK5T...0Rossi%20Swiss
Check out De Rossi's performance.
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"he's here, he's there, he's every ****ing where, senderos, senderos"
"Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

I thought thats the game Lawrance has talked about. Check out 7:40 in the video for DeRossi's assault. The swiss referee Urs Meier (commentator on ZDF) referred to that foul after the USA-Italy match. He also said directly after the Swiss-Italy match that DeRossi shouldnt be allowed to participate in the WC. Well, he was prolly right.Originally posted by Colon™
What the hell is that?!
"Football is like chess, only without the dice." Lukas Podolski

"He's here, he's there, his nose is over there, Senderos, Senderos"Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
"he's here, he's there, he's every ****ing where, senderos, senderos"![]()

Uhm, I saw a lot of assaults, not just De Rossi's. I wouldn't exactly state that the Swiss were innocent victims.Originally posted by siron
I thought thats the game Lawrance has talked about. Check out 7:40 in the video for DeRossi's assault. The swiss referee Urs Meier (commentator on ZDF) referred to that foul after the USA-Italy match. He also said directly after the Swiss-Italy match that DeRossi shouldnt be allowed to participate in the WC. Well, he was prolly right.
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Damn... the Germans are all over Sweden. Klose opening up the defense for Podolski to score 2. The second goal was a thing of beauty for Klose.
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Where is the swedish defense? They look like rank amateurs!
We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

Germany looks a bit hot...

Well that's UEFA's fault isn't it? 14 is enough spots for Europe. If the top 14 didn't get through, UEFA is to blame for that, not having too few spots.Originally posted by siron
You can barely call the qualified nations the top FOURTEEN. There are several groups in Europe...and there are often so called death groups.
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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WTF?! Lucic gets sent off for 2 yellows, neither foul which deserved a yellow.
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Another referee is "the man of the match". Absolutely ridiculous! It's not even worth watching any more.
We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
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DEUTSCHLAND! DEUTSCHLAND! DEUTSCHLAND!![]()
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Germany have been excellent. They don't need the ref playing for them as well - that sending off was a scandal.

I dont like this habit of stopping the game cos a player is down. Once the ball goes out or if there is a foul OK, but I've seen a few examples of the ref stopping the game while a team is moving forward. My favorite ref was a Rumanian in a previous wc who refused to stop the game if he thought the player was faking. He'd just wave for them to get up and carry on.
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We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
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What a nightmare game, I won't blame the referee we lost because we played badly. I do hope that was his last game in this tournament though, to many strange decisions. Isaksson got to show what a good player he is.
It's candy. Surely there are more important things the NAACP could be boycotting. If the candy were shaped like a burning cross or a black man made of regular chocolate being dragged behind a truck made of white chocolate I could understand the outrage and would share it. - Drosedars

I laid down on the couch to start to watch the game, fell asleep for 15 minutes and the scoring is over.
Oh my local ABC affiliate, is showing the church shows again tomorrow. I can watch the England - Ecuador game at 1230 AM sSunday night if I want.
When the Mormon church genreal conference would interupt NFL games in Utah, they simply fed the games to a local independent station.
ACK!
"Foof." - Sasquatch.

Agreed.Originally posted by Tuberski
They are, by four teams it looks like.
ACK!
Next time, we'll have a WC with only 16 teams, ten of which are European.![]()
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"The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
"Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

If you had read my whole post you'd have seen that this is also my position. Or almost. Actually I'd be OK to have 1 slot less for each North America and Asia, 1 of them being played out between an Asian and an North American the other between an African and a European one.Originally posted by Flubber
hmmm-- I am quite comfortable with the current numbers from each region.
"The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
"Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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