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    Concordian Armed Forces - Term III

    This is the opening position for Term III

    Swords: 3
    Axemen: 5
    Archers: 4
    Chariot: 1
    Warriors: 1
    Workers: 3

    We know Freddie has:
    Archers: 3
    Worker: 1

    We Know that Kubhlai has:
    Archer: 2
    Worker: 1

    We know Barbs has:
    Axemen: 2
    Warrior: 1


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    Ivory Takeout Part I

    The initial item I would require is to road our own Ivory. We already have Smeg the worker at Ivory Tusks 1. (in Red) He is well placed to complete the road to our elephants.

    The second item would be the systematic buildup of troops that we are taking over the border, within the town of Ivory Tusks. (in Blue)

    Lastly we would once all is ready, we would march down the new road, over the border, and take/raze the mongolian Ivory town.

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    The Advetures of Arthur

    It is time to unleash our mighty woodsman Arthur on an Epic Scouting trip into the north west. Arthur has the skills of Woodsman II, and this will allow him fast passage through the jungles and forests in this region. With the impending assault upon mongolia by Concordian troops, I know that the intel raised by Arthur striking out in this direction can only be to our benefit.

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    Operation Chariot Races

    The goal of Operation Chariot Races is to seek out the mongolian horse resource, and pillage it asap.

    I see a force of 3 to 4 chariots making up this operational force.

    Whether they go in with the main battle force for the Ivory Town, or seperately is still uindecided, as they have yet to be built.

    I understand the importance of destroying the horse resource for Mongolia.

    Once this mission is completed these chariots can then be used in several ways.

    1. They are fast and valuable for pillaging distant parts of the mongolian empire.

    2. They will provide us with very quick intel of various parts of the mongolian empire, allowing us better control and planning for our main battle force.

    3. They could be broken up into seperate patrols, and pushed hard to quickly break out of the northern mongolian border regions, thus possibly gaining us communications with a yet unknown nation.

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    Defence of the Capital

    With striking into the heartlands of any enemy, it is all to easy to over cmmit your troops, leaving the population unprotected.

    I am fully committed to a strong force being left to guard our Capital.

    At this time we have 1 warrior, 1 archer on constant duty, along with 1 axeman and 1 chariot performing highway patrol through the area intermittantly. I do not believe this is enough!

    Apolyton, our Capital, is the prime source of all units of the Concordian Armed Forces, if it falls for what ever reason, then we will be very hard pressed to recapture it with our Armies away up north. Not to mention that it is the largest of our cities, the most prosperous, and our founding city.

    I would like to see at least one more unit dedicated to it's direct defence. There is a lot to be said for another Archer unit for this duty, but I am not stuck completely on this. I would also like to see a fast moving chariot remaining available for Highway Patrol duties between Paddyton, The Lake and Apolyton, the Capital.

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    Re: Concordian Armed Forces - Term III

    Originally posted by Rubychaser
    This is the opening position for Term III

    Swords: 2
    Axemen: 5
    Archers: 4
    Chariot: 1
    Warriors: 1
    Workers: 3

    We know Freddie has:
    Spearman: 1
    Archers: 3
    Worker: 1

    We Know that Kubhlai has:
    Chariots: 3
    Archer: 2
    Worker: 1

    We know Barbs has:
    Axemen: 2
    Warrior: 1


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    The figure for swords didn't appear. I believe we have 2

    I've also added a few more units that we've seen appearing every so often.

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    What do we need?

    We ned to defend what we have and yet have enough to give a damn good showing of ourselves as we push north.

    Defensive:

    Apolyton:

    2 Archers
    1 Warrior

    The Lake:

    1 Axeman

    Paddyton:

    1 Archer

    Ivory Tusks:

    1 Axeman

    Metaliturtleton:

    1 Archer

    Highway Patrol:

    2 Chariots

    Offensive:

    Scout North West:

    1 Axeman Arthur

    Operation Ivory Take Out:

    3 swords

    2 axemen

    1 spearman

    Operation Chariot Races:

    3 to 4 chariots

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    Re: Re: Concordian Armed Forces - Term III

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    The figure for swords didn't appear. I believe we have 2

    I've also added a few more units that we've seen appearing every so often.
    Thank you my Lord Minister. It is good to have your Wise and August self here at this hour. Could you please supply your humble servant with guidance and advice on these posts that are above. It is the hope of this soldier, that my Lord Minister will be able to make the journey to the turn chat in the coming hours, as it would benefit my lads to hear more of your ways and teachings.

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    most excellent
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    Re: Operation Chariot Races

    Originally posted by Rubychaser
    The goal of Operation Chariot Races is to seek out the mongolian horse resource, and pillage it asap.

    I see a force of 3 to 4 chariots making up this operational force.

    Whether they go in with the main battle force for the Ivory Town, or seperately is still uindecided, as they have yet to be built.

    I understand the importance of destroying the horse resource for Mongolia.

    Once this mission is completed these chariots can then be used in several ways.

    1. They are fast and valuable for pillaging distant parts of the mongolian empire.

    2. They will provide us with very quick intel of various parts of the mongolian empire, allowing us better control and planning for our main battle force.

    3. They could be broken up into seperate patrols, and pushed hard to quickly break out of the northern mongolian border regions, thus possibly gaining us communications with a yet unknown nation.
    a bold plan indeed, one I see much merit in
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    Thank you My Lord President. I am awaiting further word from the most High Lord Minister on my posts.

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    Originally posted by Rubychaser
    Thank you My Lord President. I am awaiting further word from the most High Lord Minister on my posts.
    Did you get my PM?

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    Originally posted by couerdelion


    Did you get my PM?
    I have thank you, and have just replied. Will you be at the chat in 1 hours time?

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    Back at HQ. We actually have 3 swords

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    Re: What do we need?

    This is the opening position for Term III

    Swords: 3
    Axemen: 5
    Archers: 4
    Chariot: 1
    Warriors: 1
    Workers: 3


    The Plan so far needs:

    Swords: 3
    Axemen: 5
    Archers: 4
    Spearman: 1
    Chariot: 6
    Warriors: 1
    Workers: 3

    Difference:

    Spearman: 1
    Chariots: 5

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    If I might offer a small word of advise on this otherwise brilliant plan of our most esteemed Commander General....

    Would it not be wise to send our scouting axeman Arthur to the North East? This way we can not only reveal King Frederick's new city but we can almost certainly sneak closely between Kublai's eastern cities and the eastern shore and reveal yet uncovered lands.
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    Here are a few comments I have on the Chariot Rush

    I’m not so sure about the Chariot rush idea and suspect it is unlikely to succeed if Kublai gets either Construction, Horseback Riding or Iron Working (+Iron). The stack would be exposed to Catapults, Keshik and Spears which would all be at least, if not more, mobile than our units and should be able to knock them out before they reach their destination.

    Coupled with this is the fact that mounted units are easy to counter with spears. In short, it’s a very risky mission and one which I don’t think will decisively turn the contest in our favour.

    Of more importance, IMO, is the iron resource. If we can knock this one out then there is a good chance that Kublai will be denied spears and axes. And it can probably be captured with a small group of axe, spear and chariot (who may then continue their pillaging or might simply retreated into cover to “allow” Kublai to try to build another mine.

    By taking out the mine, Kublai’s cities are then exposed to a simple sword/spear stack while the improvements can be systematically destroyed by an axe, spear, chariot combo.

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    Thank you Lord Minister.

    Originally posted by FeMme
    If I might offer a small word of advise on this otherwise brilliant plan of our most esteemed Commander General....

    Would it not be wise to send our scouting axeman Arthur to the North East? This way we can not only reveal King Frederick's new city but we can almost certainly sneak closely between Kublai's eastern cities and the eastern shore and reveal yet uncovered lands.
    Thank you FeMme. Either way works for me.

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    The axeman to the North East will also "protect" Kublai's city from barbarians in the area.

    Now we wouldn't want those archers there getting free promotions would we?

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    Re: What do we need?

    Originally posted by Rubychaser
    We ned to defend what we have and yet have enough to give a damn good showing of ourselves as we push north.

    Defensive:

    Apolyton:

    2 Archers
    1 Warrior

    The Lake:

    1 Axeman

    Paddyton:

    1 Archer

    Ivory Tusks:

    1 Axeman

    Metaliturtleton:

    1 Archer

    Highway Patrol:

    2 Chariots

    Offensive:

    Scout North West:

    1 Axeman Arthur

    Operation Ivory Take Out:

    3 swords

    2 axemen

    1 spearman

    Operation Chariot Races:

    3 to 4 chariots
    My own views on “Highway patrol” and defense against flanking counterattacks are that we need spears (2/3). We know that Kublai has Chariots and there is a good chance that he is going to research Horseback Riding. After that - and with the negligible upgrade costs that AI seem to get, his Keshiks will sweep through the jungle onto our roads and Chariots will be no match for them. I would suggest that we have one spear in Iron Tusks and another one or two near to Paddyton.

    We will need one or two axemen for defense against Barbs still so I’d tend to think in terms of a roving defensive force of 1 Chariot, 2/3 Spear, 2 Axes (with perhaps some of these stationed on key resources (Gold, Iron)

    We could, of course, free up an axeman or two by building archers to replace some of the garrisons.

    As for Ivory Tusks, we do not know what the garrison is so I would propose 5 Swords (Raiders), 2 Axes (Shock and Medic) and 1/2 Spear (Combat I, II, Formation)

    For Apolyton, the Archer would probably be the best second defender with extra security provided by an Axeman nearby in case of pre-emptive strike by Freddie.

    How long before The Lake can be up and building units if we pop-rush everything through?

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    Lots here my only thoughts at this time are yes we must have extra units available to guard apolyton and also its improved tiles !
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    Re: Operation Chariot Races

    Originally posted by Rubychaser
    The goal of Operation Chariot Races is to seek out the mongolian horse resource, and pillage it asap.

    I see a force of 3 to 4 chariots making up this operational force.

    Whether they go in with the main battle force for the Ivory Town, or seperately is still uindecided, as they have yet to be built.

    I understand the importance of destroying the horse resource for Mongolia.

    Once this mission is completed these chariots can then be used in several ways.

    1. They are fast and valuable for pillaging distant parts of the mongolian empire.

    2. They will provide us with very quick intel of various parts of the mongolian empire, allowing us better control and planning for our main battle force.

    3. They could be broken up into seperate patrols, and pushed hard to quickly break out of the northern mongolian border regions, thus possibly gaining us communications with a yet unknown nation.
    The Sherrin Foundation Supports this Operation.
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    Re: Defence of the Capital

    Originally posted by Rubychaser
    With striking into the heartlands of any enemy, it is all to easy to over cmmit your troops, leaving the population unprotected.

    I am fully committed to a strong force being left to guard our Capital.

    At this time we have 1 warrior, 1 archer on constant duty, along with 1 axeman and 1 chariot performing highway patrol through the area intermittantly. I do not believe this is enough!

    Apolyton, our Capital, is the prime source of all units of the Concordian Armed Forces, if it falls for what ever reason, then we will be very hard pressed to recapture it with our Armies away up north. Not to mention that it is the largest of our cities, the most prosperous, and our founding city.

    I would like to see at least one more unit dedicated to it's direct defence. There is a lot to be said for another Archer unit for this duty, but I am not stuck completely on this. I would also like to see a fast moving chariot remaining available for Highway Patrol duties between Paddyton, The Lake and Apolyton, the Capital.
    It is a shame that we did not have this in place before this last rush of Barbarians. Hope this will be dealt with soon.

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    Where can I enlist? As a member of the Concordian Parliament, and of the Sherrin Foundation, I offer my services as an Officer of Chariots, Archers or Spear.

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    Originally posted by Nelson D
    Where can I enlist? As a member of the Concordian Parliament, and of the Sherrin Foundation, I offer my services as an Officer of Chariots, Archers or Spear.
    Member of Concordian Parliament - Every citizen gets to vote. All you need to do is register - please check newcomers thread
    Sherrin Foundation - Post in their thread perhaps
    Officer - Speak to General RubyChaser if you want a fighting role The War Department itself needs a Wagonmaster-General and a Strategician.

    Now, I'm afraid that I have to go and read lots of battle reports to prepare myself for any questions on the war.

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    Ah Ruby, once again the man with the plan
    Your plans in the past have been spot on so I see no reson to doubt you now

    FeMme, I dig you r thoughts on Arthur's movements.. I'm begining to think you are a warmonger in hiding

    Great work all keep it up

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    Originally posted by couerdelion


    Member of Concordian Parliament - Every citizen gets to vote. All you need to do is register - please check newcomers thread
    Sherrin Foundation - Post in their thread perhaps
    Officer - Speak to General RubyChaser if you want a fighting role The War Department itself needs a Wagonmaster-General and a Strategician.

    Now, I'm afraid that I have to go and read lots of battle reports to prepare myself for any questions on the war.
    Yes I am a member of the Parliament, and of the Sherrin Foundation.

    I now seek to join the Concordian Armed Forces.

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    Originally posted by Nelson D
    Where can I enlist? As a member of the Concordian Parliament, and of the Sherrin Foundation, I offer my services as an Officer of Chariots, Archers or Spear.
    I have taken your application, and will give it some thought. Thank you for coming forward.

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    Re: Operation Chariot Races

    Originally posted by Rubychaser
    The goal of Operation Chariot Races is to seek out the mongolian horse resource, and pillage it asap.

    I see a force of 3 to 4 chariots making up this operational force.

    Whether they go in with the main battle force for the Ivory Town, or seperately is still uindecided, as they have yet to be built.

    I understand the importance of destroying the horse resource for Mongolia.

    Once this mission is completed these chariots can then be used in several ways.

    1. They are fast and valuable for pillaging distant parts of the mongolian empire.

    2. They will provide us with very quick intel of various parts of the mongolian empire, allowing us better control and planning for our main battle force.

    3. They could be broken up into seperate patrols, and pushed hard to quickly break out of the northern mongolian border regions, thus possibly gaining us communications with a yet unknown nation.
    With our decision that we will take and keep Karkaorum, the goal of pillaging the mongolian countryside drops down the pegging order a bit. As it can only be to our benefit to take the town and the lands in good order.

    We still want to cut their horse resource as soon as possible. This means we will face less keshiks in the long run.

    To this end I propose that our 3 charoits (in yellow circle) race along yellow line to horses (dark blue circle) and pillage it. This also allows for Rochelle, with her extended view to open up a great deal of the north (light green circle)

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