I'm Angry. Who Deserves My Wrath?

SlowwHand · April 3, 2006, 20:06

My daughter, Summer, has a boyfriend of 7 years or so named Luke. Luke had worked the last couple of years as a temporary tech at Samsung.

Being a temporary, he has no insurance, and they live in a more rural county north of Dallas, with no county hospital to speak of.

So here's the deal. He had one of his boys removed. He had to shop around for something he could afford.

Now he was diagnosed with what they think is a "not so bad" cancer in his lower lung. He can't get chemo. See above.
So I told him to go to Dallas county hospital, and give this address. That way he can be treated.

So who do I direct my anger and frustration?
I think to work anyone as a temp over the required 3 month contract without hiring is ethically bankrupt.

As far as medical facilities, this is what makes me think America needs socialized medicine.
With businesses abusing temps, and medical needs being unavailable to all, people like Luke get a royal ass screwing.

So who? OR both?

Dis · April 3, 2006, 20:10

socialized medicine

someone I really care about is in need of it. no health insurance is not good. She is uninsurable due to prior medical conditions

Of course I have no health insurance either. My company does not provide it.

but nothing bad could happen to me. I'm healthy. And I'm a man. Men are in less need of health insurance.

Rufus T. Firefly · April 3, 2006, 20:15

Why is "medical" on your list? Can't see that they bear any responsibility here.

Why is "Congress" not on your list?

But "Business" is always a fine choice.

Gibsie · April 3, 2006, 20:25

Bushiness

Japher · April 3, 2006, 20:26

buisness

and your daughter

why hasn't she married this obvious winner!?

SlowwHand · April 3, 2006, 20:32

Medical, as in the planning of medical treatment for all.
I say business, too, because of being so low-life in many instances.

Rufus T. Firefly · April 3, 2006, 21:12

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Medical, as in the planning of medical treatment for all.
I say business, too, because of being so low-life in many instances.

Whatever else you can blame the medical profession for, you can't blame them for not giving away their services for free, especially in a capitalist society.

Tiamat · April 3, 2006, 21:13

Husband in similar situation. Worked for the same company for the last 14 years but since it's small one man owned company they don't get insurance. I had to go back to work and find a job that would provide insurance so he could get coverage.

Sloww I used to work for Temp agencies, does his agency not offer any type of insurance? All the ones I worked for here did. Expensive, yes, but offered none the less. Sorry to hear about this. Cancer sucks in all forms, will keep a good thought for him.

GhengisFarb™ · April 3, 2006, 21:13

Business. Not all businesses have such anti employee policies. Unfortunately many do.

(The Four Blue Shoddies come to mind.)

Rufus T. Firefly · April 3, 2006, 21:22

Just to sing his praises:

My father-in-law owns a small business (under 20 employees) in Texas, and the first thing he did when the business took off -- long before buying himself the Lexus or the McMansion -- was to provide health insurance for all his employees.

Businessmen don't have to be evil bastards.

My father-in-law

reds4ever · April 3, 2006, 21:56

This wouldn't have happened under a socialist government...

Dis · April 3, 2006, 23:01

Originally posted by reds4ever
This wouldn't have happened under a socialist government...

yeah, they would have died long before that.

Tiamat · April 3, 2006, 23:10

Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly
Just to sing his praises:

My father-in-law owns a small business (under 20 employees) in Texas, and the first thing he did when the business took off -- long before buying himself the Lexus or the McMansion -- was to provide health insurance for all his employees.

Businessmen don't have to be evil bastards.

My father-in-law

Steve's boss offered his employees the option for insurance but they didn't want it. Guess it would take money out of their pocket.

Mrs. Tuberski · April 3, 2006, 23:39

No One... You cant be angry with the med field they havent done anything right yet. You are right to be angry but i doubt it can be direted to any one source. Luke has a problem instead of geting mad direct that frustration to trying to help fix the problem, his problem to be exact. Ok he has been dealt a sucky deal, but this can be helped since it is caught early. I will tell you he will have to go thorugh having part of his lung removed and then chemo. he will not live very long if this is not done. best bets are to get him in the community state hospital. he may be treated as a homeless person but i guarantee any treatment is better then none.
Trust me tuber works his ass off to pay for the health insuance we have and it sucks balls.... I mean who the hell needs insurance if you have to pay a 400 dollar deductible. If i could do that why would i need insurance

MRT144 · April 4, 2006, 00:39

sorry slow but you live in a right to work state and he had the right not to work there any time he chose.

Zoid · April 4, 2006, 03:11

Both

The richest country in the world should afford proper healthcare to all it´s citizens...

Spiffor · April 4, 2006, 03:41

Business and Congress.

Urban Ranger · April 4, 2006, 04:18

Samsung and Congress.

I am amazed at the lax labour law in the US. That doesn't sound like what you should find in a civilised country.

Provost Harrison · April 4, 2006, 04:20

Originally posted by SlowwHand
My daughter, Summer, has a boyfriend of 7 years or so named Luke. Luke had worked the last couple of years as a temporary tech at Samsung.

Being a temporary, he has no insurance, and they live in a more rural county north of Dallas, with no county hospital to speak of.

So here's the deal. He had one of his boys removed. He had to shop around for something he could afford.

Now he was diagnosed with what they think is a "not so bad" cancer in his lower lung. He can't get chemo. See above.
So I told him to go to Dallas county hospital, and give this address. That way he can be treated.

So who do I direct my anger and frustration?
I think to work anyone as a temp over the required 3 month contract without hiring is ethically bankrupt.

As far as medical facilities, this is what makes me think America needs socialized medicine.
With businesses abusing temps, and medical needs being unavailable to all, people like Luke get a royal ass screwing.

So who? OR both?

Welcome to the real world...this is what the poor have to deal with, and I think it is time many people who are not receiving the sh*tty end of the stick realise this. Let's hope this serves as an example, and that your daughter's boyfriend has a really good recovery...

Provost Harrison · April 4, 2006, 04:23

Tell me though, what kind of price are you talking for health insurance?

DaShi · April 4, 2006, 04:24

You should get mad at people who vote Republican. Had Clinton's healthcare act been passed, he would have insurance.

Rufus T. Firefly · April 4, 2006, 04:30

I really want to understand why anyone would say "both." How is the medical profession to blame here? It's not like they're refusing to treat the guy; they're just charging for their services. I'm sure they don't give a damn who pays them -- the guy, his insurer, the government, whoever. His failure to be able to pay, though, is teh fault of his cheap-ass employer (business), the evil, evil health insurance companies (business), and a feckless Congress that won't do anything about the sorry state of US health care.

Jon Miller · April 4, 2006, 04:32

I thought Medical meant Insurance companies..

JM

Provost Harrison · April 4, 2006, 04:32

It's a failing in the system rather than any one individual institution...

Rufus T. Firefly · April 4, 2006, 04:42

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Tell me though, what kind of price are you talking for health insurance?

I pay ~$3500/year ($135 comes out of every bi-weekly paycheck) to cover my wife, my daughter, and myself. I can't remember offhand what my deductible is. And my insurance doesn't cover our family's most regular expenses: dental work and eyeglasses.

Rufus T. Firefly · April 4, 2006, 04:44

Originally posted by Jon Miller
I thought Medical meant Insurance companies..

JM

Most doctors I know hate health insurance companies just as much as the rest of us.

Provost Harrison · April 4, 2006, 04:50

Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly

I pay ~$3500/year ($135 comes out of every bi-weekly paycheck) to cover my wife, my daughter, and myself. I can't remember offhand what my deductible is. And my insurance doesn't cover our family's most regular expenses: dental work and eyeglasses.

Holy sh*t!

Jon Miller · April 4, 2006, 04:57

I pay ~ a 3rd of that just for myself.

JM
(it is somewhere between 20-40 per biweekly paycheck...)
(an extra 10 per biweekly paycheck for dental)

Rufus T. Firefly · April 4, 2006, 05:13

Originally posted by Provost Harrison

Holy sh*t!

Yep. Now, that does include pretty comprehensive phamaceutical coverage which pays for itself (my wife takes a fairly expensive drug to help regulate her thyroid), but still, yeah, pretty un-freakin'-believable.