THe DNA should clear things up if no one has been claiming "it happened because she wanted it "
How can this be. Anyone who plays Lacrosse is obviously gay.
But seriously. I'm having trouble believing these charges. No one would do that and expect to get away with it. Don't get me wrong though. Guys have done stupid things like rape women even though they knew they'd get caught. I just can't help but be suspicious about these things.
This crime is possibly racially motivated as well as the alleged perps were white and the victim was black. Although there amazingly is one black player on the lacrosse team. He didn't have to submit DNA as the woman said the attackers were white.
Be interesting to see how this turns out.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...x.html?cnn=yes
THe DNA should clear things up if no one has been claiming "it happened because she wanted it "
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Anyone who plays Lacrosse is obviously gay.
You've never met anyone who plays lacrosse, have you?
They are mean sons of *****es.
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True-- swinging your stick as hard as you can into the body of another player is considered a "good defensive move". My recollection is that only head shots are forbidden.Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Anyone who plays Lacrosse is obviously gay.
You've never met anyone who plays lacrosse, have you?
They are mean sons of *****es.

What a bunch of pansies.
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So? They have fights in chess games too sometimes. Rarely, but they do. It's not that the game is for sissies. It's tough. But it's also the 'hetero' game for gays. FACT.
In da butt.
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Yup. Sounds gay to me.Originally posted by Flubber
True-- swinging your stick as hard as you can into the body of another player is considered a "good defensive move". My recollection is that only head shots are forbidden.
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Sounds too gay for me.
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"I've decided to have some strippers over. ~{!-~} All are welcome. However, there will be no nudity. I plan on killing the b----es as soon as they walk in and proceeding to cut their skin off." The writer then describes in vile terms that he would find the act sexually satisfying.I'm having trouble believing these charges. No one would do that and expect to get away with it. Don't get me wrong though. Guys have done stupid things like rape women even though they knew they'd get caught. I just can't help but be suspicious about these things.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n1476366.shtml
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That email can't be right. Why would you want to cut their skin off. They aren't very attractive that way.
And the smear campaign against the victim has already begun. http://www.wral.com/news/8513890/det...s=ral&psp=news

water polo vs lacrosse, most gay to most brutal ratio?
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Even worse for them is there is a big race issue here since they specifically asked for black strippers.
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cause they got allota booty
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They will be found not guilty, as happens almost every time in this kind of case.
I'm almost sure that some of the Duke players are guilty. I would suggest you people who doubt that to read the police report on the Smoking Gun.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0405061duke1.html

I think they will be found guilty. Duke is going to cut these guys loose because it's making them look absolutely horrible right now.
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"And we the people of the jury find them white boys totally innocent, that black whore got what she was asking for."

Though I don't honestly think race is an issue, any sports athlete that rapes/ murders/ whatever will usually get away with it.
Not likely. The jury will be composed of Durham townies, and the relationship between students and townies has been strained for a long time (decades). Furthermore, it's likely that at least half of the jurors will be black.Originally posted by Gibsie
"And we the people of the jury find them white boys totally innocent, that black whore got what she was asking for."
Terrible thread title. Not very relevant to the topic, I know, but it's an eye-sore. It's like it's coming from someone who would say "What!? You mean women can fall victim to rape now?"
Like the team used to only take advantage of little boys, or goats.
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uh change of venueOriginally posted by AnnC
Not likely. The jury will be composed of Durham townies, and the relationship between students and townies has been strained for a long time (decades). Furthermore, it's likely that at least half of the jurors will be black.
also, I don't want anyone prying around my email looking for references to sexual satisfaction or spandex or strippers or whatever.
talk about an invasion of privacy , no college or institution has a right to act on that crap, or suspend anyone, or anything whatsoever.
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I thought Duke Lacrosse was a man, I didnt know that sport.
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Wiggy, one of the people who received the email notified the police about it as perhaps germaine to the case. That got them a warrant.
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In sexual harrasment/assult/etc matters, schools are legally allowed to suspend and expel students without a trial to prove they are guilty. They just need some evidence. That evidence can be as little as just some witness testimony.
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You also believe that the police (not the college) should take no steps towards proving the guilt of these people, such as examining their computers for evidence?Originally posted by Wiglaf
also, I don't want anyone prying around my email looking for references to sexual satisfaction or spandex or strippers or whatever.
talk about an invasion of privacy , no college or institution has a right to act on that crap, or suspend anyone, or anything whatsoever.
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wiglaf doesnt believe some good ole white boys would taint themselves with nigger *****. at least thats how i imagine how wiglaf says it in his own head.
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Obviously the white collegiats are guilty, because all white collegiate men are evil. No need to acutal examine the evidence in a manor every other crime is.
It is like you guys are cheering for her to have been actually raped so you can revel in the fall of another white dude. I am not sure which is worse.
Pathetic.
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In my case, it doesn't matter if they are innocent or not, they'll be found not guilty either way. I want justice to be done, but it is so rare with rape cases I'm extremely cynical about it.
I don't know why these guys don't just get charged with assault in the first place, they're clearly guilty of THAT, even if they can't prove she said "no". (Edit: Fortunately, despite my lack of knowing whether or not, it would seem they are. Darn tootin')
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They are getting charged with assault....and the other team members not charged with rape will get obstruction of justice charges.
I don't think this is one of those white boys getting off cases because Duke University has already completely distanced themselves from the team.
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Yes Gibsie you are too cynical. It's annoying.
And you are wrong as well. They will be found guilty.
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