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  1. January 16, 2006, 11:41 #1
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    MP: Choosing civs

    Okay, team captains only, please select one.
    • Random civs
    • Random w/veto
    • Preferential list


    If one of the random options ties with Preferential, and the other receives a vote, then the Random option that's tied, wins the tie. If the vote goes 2-2-3 (3 for preferential), then Random w/veto wins (as more people voted random than not). That's the only way I could figure out to have a fair choice and still split random in half, as it looked from the other thread like there was a significant difference between random and random w/veto...
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  2. January 16, 2006, 11:41 #2
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    http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...hreadid=146900

    is the link to the discussion thread.
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  3. January 18, 2006, 13:47 #3
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    Team Mercenary votes Preferential List.
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    Sarantium chooses Preferential List.
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    can you guess our pick

    French/Louis XIV
    Germany/Fredrick
    Russia/Peter
    Aztec/Montezuma
    England/Queen Victoria
    anti steam and proud of it

    CDO ....its OCD in alpha order like it should be
  6. January 21, 2006, 19:53 #6
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    How are we going to do the civ choosing?

    Should we PM lists of 5 civs to Snoopy and let him sort out the conflicts? And how would he sort out the conflicts?

    I'm guessing that with this many teams there will be overlapping choices.

    Posting them in public could lead to some peculiar gamespersonship.

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    Meh, post them in your forums, nice and visible, let Aeson/snoop use that coin toss website to decide
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  8. January 22, 2006, 18:14 #8
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    Through PMs.
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  9. January 22, 2006, 21:04 #9
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    It looks like GS wants Preferential list.
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    Preferential list for AC team.
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    The Horde

    Preferential list

    Prefered civ: Mongols
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  13. January 23, 2006, 22:38 #13
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    Looks like Preferential List is kicking ass. We will work to produce a list.

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  14. January 25, 2006, 18:31 #14
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    Preferential list it is. Please PM me at least 3 selections, more is better ... if you don't PM enough to get selected, you'll be assigned a random one. (Thus, seven civs is the recommended list length )
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  15. January 31, 2006, 21:06 #15
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    Only the Mercs are still really waiting for civ choice. Aeson and I are discussing our preferred method of working out the list choices.
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  16. February 1, 2006, 19:50 #16
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    Okay, civ selection performed. Five civs got their first selections ... six could have, if the dice had fallen that way, but they didn't, and the first bump bumped the second.

    I'm leaving this thread open, because I'm unsure whether you all would prefer the civ choices to be known or not ...

    I'd suggest that if all of you are okay with the civ choices and results being known, then i'll reveal the entire spreadsheet, else it's up to you to post or not post your own civ choices.
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  17. February 1, 2006, 19:56 #17
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    BTW, the random factor was RAND()*100, fixed (via F9¹***) individually, and shown as a NUMBER with 0 Decimal places (AC got actually a 99.9648, which is the highest value i've ever seen for a RAND() ... impressive )


    ¹: RAND() normally recalculates with each change of a cell, thus causing the ranks to flucuate every time I did anything. Pressing F9 instead of Enter causes the function, in this case "RAND()", to be replaced by the calculation performed - in this case with the random number, thus giving a random number that does not vary.

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  18. February 1, 2006, 20:23 #18
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    I'm not certain about what you are asking, but we are happy to have a public announcement. Thanks for the work.

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  19. February 1, 2006, 20:28 #19
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    Well, if every team agrees, i'll post the full spreadsheet, including peoples' choices. If anyone objects, I won't. However, every team has the right to post their own choices if they wish
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  20. February 1, 2006, 20:30 #20
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    BTW, unless there are any objections, I'd have no problem with people switching leaders between their civ (ie, switching Elizabeth to Victoria, etc.), but no switching civs, at this point.
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  21. February 1, 2006, 20:32 #21
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    Oooooh. Gotcha. I'm guessing that is not going to fly. We are going into serious - say it in a deep voice and roll your eyes - gaming mode now where any tiny hint of information could be crucial to our success and failure.

    BTW, is S&F measured by having a good time or by winning? I vote for GT. Ooops. I'll still vote for Grandpa Troll! Although they seem to have a gag order on them. Verrrry serious.

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  22. February 1, 2006, 20:43 #22
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    I think you may be a bit knurd ...
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    It would be nice to know what the other team's civs are. I'm not interested in if some team got whatever choice and by what random value (or whatever method), I'm only interested as to who and what they are. As of this point, that should be public knowledge.

    As for the leader change (i.e. Victoria for Elizabeth), that, IMHO, was part of the choices for each team, as part of this process. If they didn't specify, from the start, what leader (and thereby, traits and starting techs) they wanted, then they should abide with the one that was given them. So, they should keep what they got. That's my opinion, atleast.

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    Thank you Snoopy and Aeson for your work.

    The Horde is happy for the spreadsheet to be public.
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    Originally posted by snoopy369
    BTW, the random factor was RAND()*100, fixed (via F9¹***) individually, and shown as a NUMBER with 0 Decimal places (AC got actually a 99.9648, which is the highest value i've ever seen for a RAND() ... impressive )
    With the random number generator on our side we can't lose!
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    AC got actually a 99.9648, which is the highest value i've ever seen for a RAND() ... impressive
    GeoModder, have you been using The Random Number Disruptor again?!

    With the random number generator on our side we can't lose!
    Indeed, you should hide your tanks from our spearmen(with random number enhancement special ability)..
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    13 yeouch.

    Hopefully the map generator is kinder than that number generator...
    Last edited by UnOrthOdOx; February 2, 2006 at 08:22.
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    Originally posted by binTravkin
    GeoModder, have you been using The Random Number Disruptor again?!
    But??! You said yourself during briefing in Covert Ops...

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    In case anyone was interested, our list:

    Catherine
    Kublai Khan
    Frederick
    Huyan Capac
    Elizabeth
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    Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
    In case anyone was interested, our list:

    Catherine
    Kublai Khan
    Frederick
    Huyan Capac
    Elizabeth
    Nice choices
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