The star from her religious symbol disappeared, but do someone knows what can happen later? The destroyed wonders cannot be build at new, but will the Holy City reappear later? Nothing is said in the manual about this.
No, the holy city won't reappear later. As for negative effects: The spread of that religion is slowed down, and of course you can't get any money from the holy shrine. Any Civ that had that religion as a state religion will hate you A LOT more.
Positive effects? Uhmm.....
The holy city -- its wonders and effects as the holy city -- is simply gone forever.
Nobody can build the shrine ever again, and nobody will get line of site for owning the holy city and having the state religion again.
If the religion has already spread to other cities then it can still be used as a religion normally, exactly the way any religion in which you do not own the holy city is (except nobody can potentially see your cities).
If it has not yet spread from the holy city then you have just wiped out an entire religion. It's dead. Congratulations.
Edited for grammar.
Last edited by Fosse; November 28, 2005 at 10:44.
Beautiful. I guess that opens the door to Scientology.
Haven't been here for ages....
What bothers me most with religion in Civ4, is the lack of roman, greek and norse religions... They should be option, from polytheism or something.
I've allways wanted to play "Russ Meyer's Civilization"
It's moddable, see the Greek World scenario for that.
Originally posted by Fosse
If it has not yet spread from the holy city then you have just wiped out an entire religion. It's dead. Congratulations.
Do you actually get a relationship penalty with AIs for destroying the holy city of their state religion?
It would make sense...
yes, big penalty.
only reason I knew I had done it was when I looked at the relationship values. didn't mind cos I was going to war with them real soon again.
ROFLMAOOriginally posted by Shogun Gunner
As GeoModder said, they can be added in (see the Greek World mod). And these religions were discussed in other threads here, and I think the consensus was that Firaxis opted to use only those religions that are still prevalent TODAY...not those that died out.Originally posted by Tattila the Hun
What bothers me most with religion in Civ4, is the lack of roman, greek and norse religions... They should be option, from polytheism or something.
And that brings up another interesting point...wouldn't it be neat to have religions die out by themselves over time?? Like Roman polytheism, it died out and was superceded by Christianity in most places.
Let Them Eat Cake
wouldn't it be neat to have religions die out by themselves over time?? Like Roman polytheism, it died out and was superceded by Christianity in most places.
Greco-roman polytheism was actually eradicated from the Roman world by "Christian fundamentalists" as soon as Christianity became a massive cult around Europe and the mediterranean coast, with pillages, massacres and the destruction of pagan holy shrines and temples
I will never understand why some people on Apolyton find you so clever. You're predictable, mundane, and a google-whore and the most observant of us all know this. Your battles of "wits" rely on obscurity and whenever you fail to find something sufficiently obscure, like this, you just act like a 5 year old. Congratulations, molly.
Asher on molly bloom
Originally posted by Shogun Gunner
way funny
anti steam and proud of it
CDO ....its OCD in alpha order like it should be
Originally posted by Datajack Franit
Greco-roman polytheism was actually eradicated from the Roman world by "Christian fundamentalists" as soon as Christianity became a massive cult around Europe and the mediterranean coast, with pillages, massacres and the destruction of pagan holy shrines and temples
Some would say that (Catholic) Christianity actually adopted many Pagan elements as a compromise so as to convince the 'heathen' to convert. So a religion really lives on in its effects on the moral codes of superceding religions ....
BTW Greek polytheism contained many elements, such as the idea of gods impregnating mortal women and having heroic sons sent to earth, which mysteriously found their way into God's 'true Word'.
Hm.....this info gives me an idea, I may yet conquer the world!
"I aspire sir, to be better than I am" - Data
BTW Greek polytheism contained many elements, such as the idea of gods impregnating mortal women and having heroic sons sent to earth, which mysteriously found their way into God's 'true Word'.
True, but remember that Christianity is, mostly, an offspring of Judaism, which was one of the most conservative and xenophobe religions of the entire region. Cultural contamination from Greece was unlikely to happen, and by the time Christianity was radicated into the european world, everything and everyone existing before 1AD was tagged as "pagan" for many centuries to come. Divine pregnancy may just be a coincidence, for the miserable role of women in the ancient world.
I will never understand why some people on Apolyton find you so clever. You're predictable, mundane, and a google-whore and the most observant of us all know this. Your battles of "wits" rely on obscurity and whenever you fail to find something sufficiently obscure, like this, you just act like a 5 year old. Congratulations, molly.
Asher on molly bloom
Originally posted by Datajack Franit
True, but remember that Christianity is, mostly, an offspring of Judaism, which was one of the most conservative and xenophobe religions of the entire region. Cultural contamination from Greece was unlikely to happen
That's true I suppose - for Judaism! But remember that Paul and his kind were trying to spread Christianity in ancient Greece and elsewhere which had developed their own complex polytheistic religions and mythologies - so I am suspicious that perhaps Christianity was designed with Pagans in mind, and it naturally found material abounding in the Greek legends. (The Book of Revelation does remind me of Greek myth with its talk of dragons and sea monsters.)
In Civ?Originally posted by Jonah5
Hm.....
Uh, yes I am well aware of that. And that's pretty much what I said in my earlier post... the polytheism was "superceded" by Christianity. Pillaging and burning pagan stuff is superceding.Originally posted by Datajack Franit Greco-roman polytheism was actually eradicated from the Roman world by "Christian fundamentalists" as soon as Christianity became a massive cult around Europe and the mediterranean coast, with pillages, massacres and the destruction of pagan holy shrines and temples
It's a thought...for a mod...at any rate...dwindling religion...I guess kind of related to the "remove religion from city" mod I saw here last week.
Let Them Eat Cake
Does any unhappiness penalty affect your own cites who happen to have that religion in them?
I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).
Originally posted by TheHateMale
In Civ?
ugh sure, in civ, ugh yeah in civ, yep definitely in civ
"I aspire sir, to be better than I am" - Data
Let us know if that ever changes to conquering the real world, okay?Originally posted by Jonah5
Haven't been here for ages....
Originally posted by Shogun Gunner
Let us know if that ever changes to conquering the real world, okay?
You will be the first to know, although Japan might be a nice little country to rule, I have always wanted to visit there.
Last edited by Jonah5; November 30, 2005 at 11:35.
"I aspire sir, to be better than I am" - Data
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