I was the first to vote!
For 15th Jan.
Why?
I believe I already said 1st Feb is too far and I believe 1st Jan is too soon for us to get ready.
15 Dec 2005
01 Jan 2006
15 Jan 2006
01 Feb 2006
When Fried Psitalon says we should
When Arrian says we should
Other, state in the threads when.
Only after the crucial banana harvest season

There has been some divergent opinions lately around these parts about when to start the game. It seems the most vocal have been the "Rabbits" who want to start yesterday and the "Turtles" who want to start sometime after the release of CIV V
So lets do this; lets have a general poll that all can vote on to determine when we want to actually start this game. Once we get a start date we can back up the dates for a Plan of Action and Milestones (POAM) from the chosen date.
First of all this is a 5 day poll.
Second of consider the above dates "approximate". It it makes more sense to start on a weekend for example, the winning date maybe adjusted by a couple of days.
State your case and vote.![]()
Last edited by conmcb25; November 17, 2005 at 08:18.
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I was the first to vote!
For 15th Jan.
Why?
I believe I already said 1st Feb is too far and I believe 1st Jan is too soon for us to get ready.
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In order to avoid some sort of cosmic logic loop, I voted "when Arrian says we should." IIRC, I think I said February. 2/1/06 is fine. 2/15/06 is also probably fine. But given that some people are chomping at the bit (understandably so), 2/1/06 seems right to me (right now).
-Arrian
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The 15th of January makes sense. If we can't seriously just copy another set of rules in two weeks after the new year, and find time between now and the new year to throw together some rules for our individual team, we'll never finish a game anyhow. Waiting until the first of February just invites more pointless discussions of red tape.
We don't need to sing and dance. We take some old rules that work, we get a forum for each subteam, we play the game.

1st of January...
You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

I'd rather start sooner than later. Need to bring in the new year with a demo game. Jan 1 for me. Just throw together some rules and get it moving. We can always adjust things after the start.

I like Jan 15th, for the reason stated elsewhere that many people will not be around on the 1st.
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Dec 15 would be my voteThe faster you get this started, the more momentum you have ... a month is more than enough time to figure out rules and teams.
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Rules are only part of the issue - are we sure of compatibility with patches? A patch is due shortly, but I have to think there will be more.
Anyway, I'm for 2/1. I don't think 1/15 would be a disaster, though. 1/1 would be a mistake, IMHO, due to the holiday season. I know I won't be around much between 12/23/05 and 1/2/06.
-Arrian
grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!
The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

Jan 15th. Gives enough time for patches.
For those who played in the first PTWDG, you know how buggy the demogame save was because it really started before any patches. Trip and Gramphos spent a lot of time trying to "fix" the save so we could play it, which meant long periods of downtime in the middle of the game.
Compare that with the second PTWDG where the save was stable and there hasn't been any downtime except for the lack of interest in the game.

Yeah, PTWDGII ran fine, it just had other issues
PTWDGI was a frickin' mess.
-Arrian
grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!
The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

I think Civ4 is already in a much better place than PTW was at launch (or even now) for MP so this hopefully would be a moot point. Hopefully the pitboss will be out by then too so we could see how that plays.

15 January is currently out front.
Fried got one more vote than Arrian so far but thats not saying much because he is currently tied with "waiting until the end of the crucial banana harvest season........."
4 more days to vote folks and thanks to markG and Snoopy369 for the news item![]()
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the sooner the better. Make it 15th Dec and hope the game will start until 15th Jan
Btw, take in aco**** I'm not a member of any team yet
And I didn't vote for myself. Do I have a stalker fan club out there?![]()

Looks like February's gonna lose. Fine. So long as it's not January 1st! December 15th seems too close.
Come on, January 15th!
-Arrian
grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!
The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

15 Dec is now tied for first place with 15 Jan.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I haven't voted yet.![]()
*"Winning is still the goal, and we cannot win if we lose (gawd, that was brilliant - you can quote me on that if you want. And con - I don't want to see that in your sig."- Beta

As I understand it the crucial banana harvest season also occurs on Dec 15.![]()

I am from Chicago so if you would like to count the banana votes for the 15th of December we could always "negotiate"![]()
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Just a very selfish reason...my vacations start on January 15th! Plus, gives us time to find out if the patch (when and if it comes out) turns out ok.
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The patch is imminent, its in the hands of take2 for playtesting.
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oh, I know...just being a pestOriginally posted by conmcb25
The patch is imminent, its in the hands of take2 for playtesting.![]()
Just hope it gets rid of the annoying stuff (lobby scroll for ex.) I have to say though that I havn't experienced any serious problems playing![]()
"You cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war" - Albert Einstein
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Wanna play some PBEMs!?

I was bumped out of a MP game but other than that no problems for me either.
There are some bugs to work out, a patch will be welcome.
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Channeling MWIA are we?Originally posted by conmcb25
15 Dec is now tied for first place with 15 Jan.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I haven't voted yet.![]()
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Well actually if I was wouldn't I wait until about 2 hours after the poll was closed and then show up and try to vote?Originally posted by Rhothaerill
Channeling MWIA are we?![]()
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Looks like 15 December is winning by two votes currently......................
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The sooner the better but I am compelled to vote with the Banana.
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As much as I'd like to get started early, it's not a good idea. Many people will get the game for christmas, and there may be another patch coming out then as well. And with the holiday season, people in college are not at their usual place to play the game.
I voted for Januarary 15, just after the holiday season.
yeah considering multiplayer didn't even work in PTW when that was it's main feature!Originally posted by SirOsis
I think Civ4 is already in a much better place than PTW was at launch (or even now) for MP so this hopefully would be a moot point. Hopefully the pitboss will be out by then too so we could see how that plays.![]()
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15 December is now ahead by 3 votes................
And only about 19 hours to go, so get voting![]()
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