Reply With QuoteI've seen a size 6 barb city. So when you conquer a barb city, do you instantly get a 9-tile cultural area, or is it just the city tile itself? Is there resistance?
Exploring a far-flung island in the 1400s I was stunned to find a size 11 barbarian city! Its land was completely developed and it had more structures than most computer cities. Of course, its two archer defense detachment weren't really ready for my cavalry.
What is the larget barbarian cities you guys have come across?
I've seen a size 6 barb city. So when you conquer a barb city, do you instantly get a 9-tile cultural area, or is it just the city tile itself? Is there resistance?
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Just the city itself, and resistance as usual when capturing. At least you don't need to worry about it flipping back to the barbs
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a captured city will never flip back to the former owner, will it?Originally posted by Makahlua
Just the city itself, and resistance as usual when capturing. At least you don't need to worry about it flipping back to the barbs
(default rules of course)
the largest barb cities i saw was size 8 with 3 square cultural range. seems the civ4 barabrians a are pretty civilized!
another point: do barbarian cities spawn randomly? or do they build setlers? i´ve never seen a barbarian settler, but i noticed barbarian cities suddenly appear on the map...
I captured a size 12 city on the "other continent" of a terra map. It must have had 3000 years to develop up to that size! The funny thing was that it's cultural radius was only the basic 9 tiles. So I guess it was running 4 specialists (and still not generating any culture--do barbs only run Citizens?)
I would guess that barb cities spawn, rather than build settlers, since I saw several barb cities on the "other continent," but they were spread all over the place, not close to each other at all. However, the barbs do build workers, and once I saw two cities about 10 tiles apart actually connected via barb-built roads. They had set up a trade network!
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do the barbs have names in the game?
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The cities do, yes. I saw one the other day named Gaul
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Presumably this is due to the fact that it's a scenario, but in the Earth 1000AD scenario there's a Barbarian city in Mexico which has an enormous cultural boundary.Originally posted by Cabbagemeister
I captured a size 12 city on the "other continent" of a terra map. It must have had 3000 years to develop up to that size! The funny thing was that it's cultural radius was only the basic 9 tiles. So I guess it was running 4 specialists (and still not generating any culture--do barbs only run Citizens?)
I just played a terra map game and encountered 4 barb towns in the New World: 2 size 7s, 1 size 6 and a size 5. Three of them had expanded borders (the first level of cultural expansion). It took a little effort to capture them.
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It very well could. "flipping" in Civ4 isn't quite the same...you have plenty of warning that it could occur. And I've only seen it happen when the AI civ's cultural boundaries completely envelop (or close to it) your city.Originally posted by Meef
a captured city will never flip back to the former owner, will it?
Let Them Eat Cake
I've lost a captured city to its former owner before. It took about 5-10 turns, and I tried my hardest to stop it (even with an artist culture bomb), but it was too close to its capital.
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I was playing a game with Snotty last night and was amazed to see a size 15 barbarian city in his game...
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Must join Barbarian civ...Originally posted by evizaer
They must be too busy having orgies to develo culture.
Yesterday I captured a size 4 barb city and dropped a culture bomb in it.. man my country became twice the size at once
Found a size 19 barb city on the 'New World'. but it was rather late into the game.
For some reason, I feel like you should sign this message, "Yours, Cortez; P.S. We burned the Temples of Sun and Moon and killed all of their birds -- do you think they'll get mad?"Originally posted by wiley15
Exploring a far-flung island in the 1400s I was stunned to find a size 11 barbarian city! Its land was completely developed and it had more structures than most computer cities. Of course, its two archer defense detachment weren't really ready for my cavalry.
What is the larget barbarian cities you guys have come across?
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heheOriginally posted by wiley15
Exploring a far-flung island in the 1400s I was stunned to find a size 11 barbarian city! Its land was completely developed and it had more structures than most computer cities. Of course, its two archer defense detachment weren't really ready for my cavalry.
What is the larget barbarian cities you guys have come across?I like it. good to see the barbs having some fun. hopefully they will get their warmongerness tweaked a bit in future patches, or mods
Originally posted by samsmithnz
I've lost a captured city to its former owner before. It took about 5-10 turns, and I tried my hardest to stop it (even with an artist culture bomb), but it was too close to its capital.
hmm. startin a custom game, there is an option "city Flipping after conquest" with the tooltip "cities that have been captured via conquest can convert peacefully back to the previous owner" . so that means to me, that under default rules it wont happen!
I've seen a barb city that built a Monolith.
The best I've seen had built the Hanging Gardens, that was a nice gimmie!
It seems the only things barbs will build that give culture (and thus expanded radius) are Monoliths and Wonders. I guess the monoliths go obsolete too soon for them to build many.
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Maybe I'll turn on the raging barbarians and c what happnes.
playing earth 1800 ad, epic, and after quickly snatching western South America from the chinese after our war i started colonising norh america, i found a barb city with a lot of culture and size 16 (or is this a wrong use of the word?)
I learned the hard way that Barbs are a lot better in 4 than 3. Left Philly with only an archer defending, and lost the damn city to a couple barb axemen.
Then spent the next 5 or 6 turns trying to win it back, weakened the defending archer significantly, and the damn Japanese decided to take Philly for themselves.
I'd have none of it. *****es wouldn't give me the city back fair and square, so I took it.
Pissed Mao Zedong off big time too - he's declared war on me 3 times since . . . looks like him and Tokagawa are buddies.
I once saw a size 16 barb city with tons of improvements (including fishing boats) defended by a healthy stack of muskets, longbows, and cavalry.
Wait, that was Mecca, nevermind.
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That happened to me in my first game (as England). London had only a Warrior defending it, and an actual horde of Barbarians swept down on my lands. They took London and kept up constant pressure on my other three cities for centuries before I finally got it back (down to 3 pop'n from 8).Originally posted by JoeGator
I learned the hard way that Barbs are a lot better in 4 than 3. Left Philly with only an archer defending, and lost the damn city to a couple barb axemen.
That little 'incident' dropped me from 2nd place to 7th.
Biggest Barbarian city I've seen is in the Earth map (Ancient era start). I haven't gotten close enough to see the population, but its cultural borders are huge. It's in Mexico.
I too have seen a huge barb city playing the earth map in mexico.
I wonder if that is put there from the start. Might have to try and open up the world builder and see.
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I was playing a terra map and saw somover size 10 cities in the new world.
I usually turn off barbs on terra maps now
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